OldDoc08

All of District 1AA better be glad that the higher up's making the decisions who shouldn't be don't allow Greeneville to play where they belong which is in that Conference. Take all of GHS sports and put them in the following. AAA- Football AA- Every other sport It would be a long year for alot of folks who play in those conferences. However don't worry because as I said the decision makers are to worried about keeping up with the big guys to let that happen. There happier with beating a DB Football team once every 32 years or making it to the state in basketball,wrestling,soccer instead of winning it.

Where is BROCK? I have read the last 3 pages and can't find him.

Cap, Give me some point spreads. It sounds like to me that the NBA Ref (Tim Donagy) is working this one by your statement. Addressing your last post about the kids learning the truth about their play whether good or bad is understandable. I just think it's the coaches responsibility to address this in practice and at games and others should try and refrain as much as possible and definately not go overboard on here in slamming them. Thats just my opinion and im sure others don't see it that way. Never the less good luck to your team as well as all the others tonight.

No Cap not me. I take it you think I am a referee. Unfortunately I am not in that good of shape to be chasing those young men up and down the floor. I am just an old school guy who likes to watch good competition and not bad sportsmanship and dirty play. I go all the way back to the DB-North Rivalry of Tranbarger (vs) Granville Arnold or TN High (vs) Central who had Steve Crowder. I like to watch all of the good coaches past and present. East TN has been blessed with some great coaches over the years as well as some very good players. I think if I am not mistaken the top 3 winningest coaches in Tennessee are from here, 1) Van Huss 2) Bayless 3) Warren. I just like to see kids being praised and communities supporting their teams and not always slamming or trying to run down them. Most of these kids will play 4 years of basketball and move on. Alot of them will be asked 10 years later why don't you support your old school and most will say that the way it was when I was in school. At your next game count how many former Vikings are in the stands and get back with me.

Hey Cap, Just wandering why everyone up there is unhappy with the style of play at THS. This style has been going on for the past 20 years including the years they has Stallcup,King,Mitchell,Dandridge and the likes who where far more athletic than this years team. Not slamming this years team but are they not better suited for the walk up game instead of run-n-gun

Thanks Big 9, I just want to see kids rewarded and praised for their hard work. In todays world there is to much negativity and smack talk everywhere. These kids and coaches spend far more time working on basketball than a bunch of hide behind the screen wanabees. They deserve the full support form their communities and instead of 500 in the stands it should be 2500 like back in the 80's. All we do now days is make excuses and whine instead of being supportive and working hard. This has alot to do if you look at it why alot more foreighn kids are getting scholarships and pro contracts as they outwork us and don't make excuses.

Yes General it will go like this after tonights games. 1) No one will give much credit to the winning team if any at all. 2) They will say their team had a bad game or some starter would have been out of the game for whatever reason. 3) We will hear how bad the coach was and he didn't substitute right or play the right people. 4) The refs where horrible and it was all home cooking was the reason our team lost. 5) There will be someone on here blasting some young athlete about his ability, character or something else. 6) There will be some blow hard talking about how they could have done this better or that better. If you read this whole forum that junk makes up about 90% of it. So for what its worth here are my suggestions. If you are one of those people and you are a student do one of two things! 1) Get off your lazy tush and go play for your school. 2) Support your school with class and don't criticize,slam, or otherwise demean other players or teams. If you are one of those people and are an adult this is for you! 1) Act like an adult and grow up 2) Go back to school where you can become the next Buck Van Huss 3) Put on a referee shirt and walk the walk not whine and only talk the talk 4) Remember out of all 9 teams there might be if your lucky 9 kids get to play some type of college basketball For the other 10% I commend you on supporting your team and showing some class.

The Cradic kid at Volunteer is a great competitor. No doubt has kept Volunteer in alot of basketball/football games the last couple of years. That leg whip deal sounds like out of character for him and should be dealt with accordingly. His ticket is punched though as he just received the Scott Niswonger scholarship which pays up to $40,000 per year to the school of his choice for 5 years so sports will probably be an afterthought for him as he also carries an extremely high GPA.

You are correct if Greeneville and Betsy didn't have tuition kids they would be 2A and then look out. As for Hampton they are strong. My point is if you look at the strength of schedule of every team in both conferences the 5 Rivers would be stronger based on who they played overall.

I made a little mistake there are 4 schools in the MLC that should be playing 3A (North, Johnson County, Betsy, Unicoi) also West was beaten by 5A Jeff County.

Here is the following breakdown about each team Greeneville- Beats South by 3, beats West by 7, Loses to Boone, Loses to 2A ky Defending State Champ West- Loses to Greeneville by 7, Loses to Knox Catholic Ranked in top 5 3A state, Loses to Science Hill South- Loses to Greeneville, Beats THS, Beast S Hill by 20 THS- Loses to South by 7, Beats S Hill by a couple Looks like any of these 4 could move on to Maryville Now as for the rest of both conferences as how good they are and also look at non-conference opponets South and TN High have 3 schools in their conference who are 3A schools playing up so they definately have an advantage there. Greeneville is also a 3A playing in a 4A so this could be seen as a disadvantage East beat Volunteer by 7 Johnson County got beat by a 1A school and played at least 1 2A School Unicoi beats a week 2A school in South Greene and played another 2A in Happy Valley TN Highs non conference was week with the exception of DB. Va High and 5A S Hill no playoff Mo West played two 5A schools and a State top 5 3A school Greeneville played the #1 team from MLC and a 5A playoff team and KY State Champ South played Boone and Greeneville Non Conference You talk about 2004 what about 2005 and 2006 as far as head to head in playoffs which did better.

hey plowboy you wouldn't be Brian Barrett aka-cattlemen/Lahma/goat herder would you

I first want to say that Maryville has an awesome program and has been tremendous over the past 8-10 years. I do however think it would be tougher to accomplish those things at 5A. Playing the likes of Oak Ridge, DB, Bearden, William Blount, Farragut, and a few more week in week out is a little stronger than some of the 4A teams they play. Also being at the top of the cut off # at 4A and being on the low end # of 5A is a world of difference. I am not cuting their program at all I am just saying it would be harder to duplicate the results.

That athletic director wasn't complaining when his kid was starting point a few years back. The bottom line is and I am sure no one will agree but they don't have the talent they had when Pitts was here or for that matter the first couple of years of Poe. Other than Wattad you name me who could match up with the Williams boys, Johnson boys, Loves, Nookie, Fields, Goulds, Harmon, Stevens, Odarius,Sterbenz and I am sure I left a couple very good ones off. Need I say more the players now are just not there in groves like they once where. The other thing about the almighty press. 20 years ago when Pitts came he took very good athletes and changed high school basketball in East TN. Now every team tries to push the ball and the topper press doesn't produce 25 turnovers a game like it once did. Finally after 20 years other teams figured out how to break it. The last thing go speak to some old heads like Herb and Bart and the will tell you the kids today are not in Carver and Legion everytime you look around like they once where. All this put together adds up to they will always be better than most but another run like th 90's most likely won't be coming anytime soon. All this being said I am not saying the Coach is the greatest by no means but he by far isn't the only problem.

Duncan is a very good coach. This years squad is very good but I don't think is is his best. The squad with Dabbs(Carson Newman), Story(Tusculum), Malone(UTC), Blair (Maryville), Gillespie (UTC football) was probably the best. He has put as many kids in college basketball the last few years as anyone in East TN if not more. Charlie Morgan is a good coach and demands alot from his players on and off the court, some kids don't respond to that well. Another good coach is John Dyer who always gets a great effort out his players and they play fundamentals , he just doesn't have the overall talent others have year in year out. As for Pitts he changed the way the game was played in East TN. In the late 80's early 90's he had some very good athletes and the pressure defense up tempo style was new to the area. Now in 2007 Everybody tries to push the ball and trap on the floor and SH is being caught by everyone else as they have had 20 years to catch up against the system.