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Public's should not play private schools
larry replied to Metro "Ballin"'s topic in Public-Private Debate
The fact that it is 35 miles from Nashville to Murfreesboro might have something to do with it. -
Public's should not play private schools
larry replied to Metro "Ballin"'s topic in Public-Private Debate
How many counties does CPA have students from? Only Williamson and Davidson, with 12% of Tennessee's population and 180,000 kids under the age of 18? Are there others? -
Public's should not play private schools
larry replied to Metro "Ballin"'s topic in Public-Private Debate
You confuse public vs public with public vs lack of private. It is true that Alcoa is not hurt by the presence of private schools which helps them compete with nationwide mega-privates like McCallie. But, the small schools that must compete with private schools, especially in Mid-Tennessee, is where the big discrepancy occurs, as you know. If you put the 1,200 boys at MBA, BA, Ensworth, and Father Ryan at public schools the public schools there would be much better, too. Likewise, take 1,000 boys out of Blount County schools and see how they do. -
Public's should not play private schools
larry replied to Metro "Ballin"'s topic in Public-Private Debate
That there are no private schools in Blount County and only four in Knox County, three of which are church-affiliated. Alcoa and Maryville get to keep their athletes. -
One private school in Rutherford County and it is church-affiliated. Four private schools in Knox County, three church-affiliated, and none in Blount County where Maryville is. Williamson County schools do not face the same obstacles as publics in other counties- the county ranks 27th in the country in iincome, out of 0ver 3,100 counties. No socio-economic class issues, no poverty, no busing, no English as a second language. Yes, private schools have advantages which is what this discussion is all about. Players haven't fled Nashville schools because they are athletic underachievers. Nashville schools are underachievers because players have fled Nashville. That is fine, go where you want, but don't claim equality when equality is the last thing you are seeking.
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I don't mean this answer to be flippant but they are not telling you what you can do in the summer. They are telling you what you can't do once school begins. If it is a summer team then he can play, no problem. It is a fall league that he can't play on with more than 4 other teammates.
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That will make those innocent, wrongly convicted people feel better.
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If you read posts in earlier, pre-decision threads from a few private school supporters they were overjoyed that BA was "going to win" and hoped the TSSAA would be bankrupt and disbanded by BA, even though their own private schools would have been involved in paying the TSSAA court costs, possibly. They made this a private school vs public school decision and the Supreme Court has now ruled, unanimously. Granted, most fans on both sides of this issue just want it over with and som eway worked out where the schools can co-exist in the future.
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The law firm for BA is made up partly of BA grads. It is possible that the case is pro bono since they lost.
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Not by the ones who couldn't keep from talking on this thread before. Getting a comment from them now is like pulling teeth.
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The silence on this thread is deafening. /bored.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":bored:" border="0" alt="bored.gif" />
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Didn't read what I wrote, did you? Lets try again: "I have seen no hate and jealousy, just discussion. Some of us would put our professions, and our homes, and our church, and our community above the goal of a basketball scholarship. That does not equate to hate and jealousy. Her parents made their decision and that is fine. I am sure it is what they think is best. I also applaud the many others that we never hear about, the ones that stick it out." Let me repeat, I don't know the girl. Let me re-word this, then. If you are going to applaud a girl for leaving then lets also commend the THOUSANDS of girls who support their schools adn communities. No axes to grind, no jealousy, no hatred. Now, read into that what you must.
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I have seen no hate and jealousy, just discussion. Some of us would put our professions, and our homes, and our church, and our community above the goal of a basketball scholarship. That does not equate to hate and jealousy. Her parents made their decision and that is fine. I am sure it is what they think is best. I also applaud the many others that we never hear about, the ones that stick it out.
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Did any of you not have some tough times in high school, times that you had to fight through, and that today you look back on with at least a little bit of pride? Do you wish you had cut and run?
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I am from Shelbyville. If Insell hadn't left she would probably be here. But, I wouldn't go watch. I've seen enough of that over the years. The summer is young yet.
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Kentucky: 'Athletic territories' plan sent to state lawmakers
larry replied to CoachT's topic in Public-Private Debate
If they used zones you could still go where you wanted, just couldn't play sports unless you attended the heathen public school. You know, the one that educates every person from every socioeconomic group and every ethnic group that enters the door. -
To respond in general: (1) if I want to see girls from different towns play on a team I can watch AAU or, better yet, college. (2) a girl of average intelligence can spend an additional 1 hour a day on homework, etc, and go to any state college free on a lottery scholarship and a couple of smaller scholarships to make up the difference. (3) it is the parent's desire for the attention and scholarships that make them take their children elsewhere (4) what happened to cause a player to be fine at camp on Wednesday and announce that she is leaving the school on Friday? (5) if the problem is the community then why not move to Hermitage Springs, or Clay County, or Macon County, or Smith County? (6) there is nothing that can be done if a family wants to change schools and does so through the proper channels. But, it is not the way it is supposed to be.
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My community school playing your community school, with players who grew up here with parents who grew up here. Kids who grew up dreaming of playing for your school, or mine, and never even imagining playing elsewhere. Kids who kno wthat it will not always be easy, or even fair, but know that they will still be there when it is all over. There will be the occasional (depending on the size of your community and the job force) player move in because a parent got transferred, or lost his job, and has taken a job in your town. In small towns that will be very rare. No one would move to another town and disrupt the family for something as relatively unimportant as basketball. Idealistic, perhaps, but that is the way it is supposed to be.... and the way it used to be, not that long ago.
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I think a school did that against Shelbyville a few years ago. Can't remember who.
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7A sounds more like a cattle sale than a basketball district. Several years ago I was at the season's first home game in Shelbyville and was listening to a couple of old (even older than me) couples in front of us. It went something like "Now where is that girl from? Fayetteville. And that other one over there? Woodbury. And her? Murfreesboro. Well, where is the girl from Grundy County? She graduated and is at Vandy now. Too bad, I really enjoyed watching her." Not the way high school is supposed to be.
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Maybe they chose only in-state players.
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Kentucky: 'Athletic territories' plan sent to state lawmakers
larry replied to CoachT's topic in Public-Private Debate
The schools don't like having to redo all of the region FB schedules every two years. -
Kentucky: 'Athletic territories' plan sent to state lawmakers
larry replied to CoachT's topic in Public-Private Debate
I know from these boards that the privates schools would want things to be equal for both sides. Zones would help greatly in doing that. Take care of the open-zoned publics that the private supporters are always worrying about, too. -
One of the reasons a lot of schools are no longer getting support from their commuities, and student bodieis, is that it is almost like having an AAU team representing your school. Come to Shelbyville some time and see how many students are at the girl's games. Not the way high school sports should be.
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Kentucky: 'Athletic territories' plan sent to state lawmakers
larry replied to CoachT's topic in Public-Private Debate
If you zoned both public and private schools then it could work.