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I would be curious to hear some MBA fans opinions on the matter after what happened. Not to bash just curious.

I can handle the fact that you don't know who I am yet you know I'm wrong about everything I've said and that I don't know anything. I really can care less about what you think of me. But this topic was brought up about schools lessening their integrity to win championships. And yet you don't what to comment on the envelope full of cash. So by your idea of discussing the issue we will take issue that was well publicized and disregard so you can go back to telling me how much I suck.

I mentioned 3 schools at the beginning. Your the one that has made this all about BA. Do I think they are paying kids to go to 7th and 8th grade there. NO. DO I think they are going there for Free. Yes. Do I think they are scouting 5th and 6th grade games as well as 7th and 8th grade games. I know they are. This time you ignored my question. Was envelope-gate cheating?

I'm not going to mention names. It's not fair to kids who get swept up in the whole thing. Without mentioning names I seem to remember a little incident earlier this year with a certain envelope that was given to a kid that had cash in it. Now tell me is that proof enough of cheating? TO whoever mentioned the BA players that have been their since grade school you are right. They did go there in grade school and that is also the perfect time for the school to get them there. See there is no governing of how much aid can be given a middle school student, so they could have gone to school for free. I do not know if they did, but I know some have. As far as the students that live close to their schools I do not have any exact numbers but Ensworth boasts of having students from 48 different zip codes on their website. I suspect no matter what I say or what you say to me either of us will ever change the other ones minds.

I don't know how the number of posts I have has any relevance. If people want to ignore my post that's fine. They have been ignoring the fact that recruiting ihas been going on at the div 2 level for a while now. By the way I never said I was a Ryan supporter. But according to your post Ryan competed up until the split. So what was the change? Could it be the amount of kids on financial aid at those other schools?

Well Antioch is within 20 minutes of BA so I guess you are right. Now how many kids are there from Antioch that go to BA that don't play football? How many kids from Rutherford county or mt. Pleasant go to ensworth that don't play football? Why is ensworth building dorms? Open your eyes people.

That's an east argument for you to make and what those 3 always seem to go to. "since we're winning we must be cheating". Well the fact is one was outright caught handing envelopes full of cash. BA has two qb's on there roster that were on other div-2 schools before. And at BA and ensworth walk up and down the halls and tell me how many kids look that are not playing football look like those that are. Or another example how many kids on their football teams live close to the school. I'm not saying these three are the only three doing it, but if you believe they aren't you know the old saying. I got some ocean front property.

Well hear are 3 to start you off. MBA, BA, and ensworth.

He means they are conceding this year by playing younger kids which may not be quite as good as the older ones but will improve for next year because of it.

Don't think you can run all over Custer like that. This will NOT be his last stand.

Yes

Explain winning the right way. Are you new in town or born yesterday?

If there are any Baylor fans on here I would like to know how their QB has looked after sitting for two years.

Maybe they were springfield fans.

Everybody in d2 makes the playoffs. That was my point.

I'll bet you whatever you want that they make the playoffs.

Chauvin(sp) from BGA

Gallatin and white house. Maybe Portland.

So it seems like Pack is out. Who is next on the list?

I've heard over and over again from MBA supporters that this is the wake up call that MBA needs to"right the ship". Now you same people are saying we got caught cheating so now we need to leave. What kind of message does that send? How about you stick around and try playing by the rules Like a lot of other schools do.

What makes one job better then another is usually different in the eyes of different coaches. However, I would say salary alone would make MBA better then all of those jobs listed.

Your attitude sounds elitist.

Perhaps its possible that MBA has not reported everything they found to the TSSAA. This would explain firing him while the TSSAA has not ruled on any violation.

Ingle Martin wouldn't have to far of a drive either.