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GRGrizz last won the day on March 25 2012

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  1. I understand and agree with most of your points, however, a lot of the pressure aspect can be based on the level of summer ball you are playing. For kids that want to play beyond high school, I would say there's a lot more pressure going down to East Cobb and playing in front of 20 college scouts at any given tournament, than most high school games. And if you are playing at that level, it certainly helps develop a better high school player that can deal with the pressure. If you're playing against the best players from any given area, the wins do matter to competitors. Another thought, a lot of those kids have played longer with the kids on their summer teams than they have with the kids on the high school team so there is actually more camaraderie. Again, I agree with your thoughts, just throwing out another perspective. I love watching both travel and high school and the kids are grown and gone before you know what's happened.
  2. There are limitations, although weak: No player may pitch more than 10 innings on consecutive days. After one day’s rest, a pitcher may again pitch as many as 10 innings on consecutive days. If a player pitched at all in any inning, the inning shall count as one full inning pitched. If a player is pitching in a game that is tied at the end of regulation play, he may finish such tie game regardless of the number of innings, provided he did not pitch the previous day or in the first game of a double-header on the same day. If a game is called due to weather or any other reason, innings pitched by any player in such game shall count against the pitcher. THIS RULE SHALL APPLY IN REGULAR-SEASON PLAY AND IN ALL TOURNAMENTS Chuckey Doak just learned this the hard way. Last night they defeated South Greene to elimate them from the district tournament and then was forced to forfeit because their pitcher exceeded 10 innings on Monday and Tuesday.
  3. Out of boredom, I'll bite, here is a well thought out comment displaying great intelligence. If anything is pathetic, it's oversight by the CD coach. Secondly, 'none of the 7 runs came in within the violation period'??????? What does that have to do with anything. The violation was the CD pither holding SG to 3 runs. Play by the rules or go home....simple. And BTW, I have no dog in the fight and could care less which team advances.
  4. Yes sir, officially you are correct and I stand corrected, but I have never seen an umpire call anyone out on a swing where the ball hit the batters hand and basically ended up looking like a bunt. That would be a very tough judgement call as to whether it hit the handle or the meat, lol.
  5. Hands are part of the bat..MYTH. It's really pretty straigt forward, if a pitched 'ball' hits the batter on the hand in the umpires judgement, dead ball batter to first. If batter is swinging at a pitch and the ball hits his hand and the ball goes in to fair territory, ball is live and in play. If it goes in foul territory, strike. As another poster suggested, it's sometimes hard to distinguish if the ball hit the bat or the hand and it comes down to umpire judgement, however, if the batter is swinging at the pitch it will be strike or live ball. I had a partner once who called a stike on a batter when the ball obviously hit the batters hand and the offended team's coach went crazy saying he should be on first, partner said in his judgement, the batter moved his hands in the strike zone. Good call.
  6. First, my comment to glock sounded hateful and for that I apologize. Secondly, my comments applied to the specific scenario as relayed by the original poster. He said that the field ump said the fielder wouldn't have got the runner anyway. 'Evidently' in the field umps 'JUDGEMENT' there was no interference with a possible play. Therefore, the play is over. No arguing judgement calls. The OP then made the comment that the plate ump didn't have the 'kauhonies' to overrule the field ump. As long as I've been umping, it still gets me going for a coach/fan to scream at me to overrule my partner. WE DON'T WORK THAT WAY. If a coach wants to come and ask me what I seen when I made a call and ask me if I care to get help from my partner, I will do so without hessitation. We may talk about the weather, but we will get together and talk. If my partner tells me he seen something totally different, I will then chose to change or not change my call. If the coach ever ran to my partner and my partner changed my call I would leave the field and he could work by himself. Coaches......NOTE TO YOU...go to the ump that made the call (nicely) and ask if he cares to get help, your case will be heard. As for the mechanics on the specific scenario, if the field ump was in B he probably moved when the ball was hit to the SS to a postion that would block the plate umps vision of 2nd base anyway. My mechanics here are to see the out at second and follow the throw to first. If in my judgement standing 15 feet from the play there's no interfernce, then there's nothing to talk about. As for sliding or not sliding, the runner didn't have to slide, however, if he did and he didn't slide directly into the base and went to either side as to breakup the throw, then I have both runners out. If he slides directly into the base and the fielder is standing on the base and the runner knocks him on his butt (without raising he leg above the knee), then tough luck to the fielder, he was protected if he moved to either side of the base. On the other hand, if the runner was out by 6 steps and kept going and slid into the fielder standing on the base, he's ejected for malicious contact.
  7. The runner doesn't have to slide. Basically, the force play slide rule is a safety rule. It states the runner doesn't have to slide, but if he does, he must slide in a direct line between first and second base. This is to provide protection for the fielder to step to either side of the base to throw the ball. If the runner slides to either side of the base both him and the batter runner are out regardless of whether a throw is made or not.
  8. What an awesome well thought out reply there glock22. I was replying to the specific situation described by the original poster. In a HS game with a two man crew and a runner on first, the field ump is in B position. If he can't see interference from the runner on the 2nd baseman from there, then he's as blind as most of the umps in our conference. Secondly, there was no 'ball to follow to 1B' as there was no throw. The original poster said the field ump stated you weren't going to get the runner at first anyway, which is his judgement. The OP then stated the homeplate umpire didn't have the 'kauhonies' to overrule the field ump, to which I stated, if he overrode him he would be working by himself. I went on to state that IF the field ump wanted, he may chose to ask for help from the plate ump on the call, but he don't have to.
  9. Not good for the umpire to step in front of the plate. What if bases are loaded and R3 tries to score on a drop?
  10. Totally a judgement call by the field ump as to interference by the runner. Sliding is not required. Force play slide rule: Rule 8-4-2 reads: Any runner is out when he: ( does not legally slide and causes illegal contact and/or legally alters the actions of a fielder in the immediate act of making a play, or on a force play, does not slide in a direct line between the bases. A runner may slide away from the fielder to avoid contact or alter the play of the fielder. Runners are never required to slide, but if a runner elects to slide, the slide must be legal. Furthermore, it IS the field umps call, he may CHOOSE to ask for help from the homeplate ump but that's his decision. Neither umpire has control to OVERRIDE the others call and if they tried, no one would work with them.
  11. IF their hitting improves they could surprise some people. I think they surprised sg the first game. The kid that pitched against sg was Fr POY (Jr now)according to their website. The next day was a meltdown at home against a good lefty. I hear Grainger has a very talented Fr class. At least 2 Fr start on varsity maybe 3. I don't know how deep they are pitching, I've only seen 3 or 4 and I heard they started a Fr at home against sg. Since I have no dog in the fight, whose better sg or gr?
  12. Going to be a challenging year for the Grizzlies. 1 Sr, 6 Jr, 2 So and 12 Fr.
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