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I have to agree with Durdon. I’ve already seen multiple people picking Clemmons, and I just don’t see it. Somehow Cannon is being extremely underestimated. The past two seasons he has lost to a total of two Tennessee wrestlers...Noah Horst and Brayden Palmer. I don’t see anyone in the bracket that comes close to the caliber of those two wrestlers. Cannon already pinned Witt last year. Medina also beat Witt at state before being teched by Cannon 19-0. The same Medina that beat Clemmons this year. I’d be surprised if Cannon doesn’t bonus point his way through the bracket. No offense to the other kids, but the gap between Cannon and the rest of the field seems pretty big to me. As long as Cannon’s healthy, I can’t picture another wrestler getting to the top of the podium.

I don’t remember ever saying he was top 10 p4p. You don’t have to be to win a state title the last time I checked. He does only have one in state loss to Pace who I’m pretty sure he won’t have to go through at state. He may not win, but I definitely wouldn’t say there’s no chance. The kid can wrestle. Who do you have winning that weight?

I guess I’ll get things started... 106 - Trae McDaniel 113 - Jackson Bradford 120 - Michael Cannon 126 - Brayden Palmer 132 - Christian Isbell 138 - Dillon Pendley 145 - Grant Lundy 152 - Austin Sweeney 160 - Dalton Cockman 170 - Chase Diehl 182 - Austin Antcliffe 195 - Devin Gibson 220 - Skylar Coffey 285 - Michael Kramer

I may be completely wrong, but I was under the impression that different people did the rankings for the different divisions. If they don’t update the rankings and send them in regulary it might be hard for the person running the website to post them. I understand the frustration for everyone from those divisions though.

Bradley won 33-32 in the final seconds of the last match.

That’s what I was thinking too. It seems really odd, but since it was on TSSAA’s website I was assuming it’s legit.

http://tssaasports.com/event/bracket.cfm?id=20187102&pdf=.pdf Does anyone know if this is accurate? Looks like Arlington would be on the bottom half of the bracket with the other region 8 team in the other empty slot.

Region 6 was posted already so we are only waiting on 7 and 8. I agree that Arlington is practically a lock from 8.

I agree with BQ as well. These top kids go hard all year, and a lot of them like to take a little time off and cheat on their diets after state. I think this is something the coaches and fans want to see more than the kids themselves. I love the idea, but just don’t expect a lot of our top talent to show up. If we really want to see the best at each weight, TSSAA will have to make changes. Keep the split for the state duals, and then do one bracket for individual state. This probably won’t happen though, so we will have to keep speculating unless meet earlier in the season.

I agree on Lundy too. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t win it all this year. The other weight I see different is 132. Isbell beat Dezember this offseason and won the Georgia Super 32 qualifier. Isbell and Whiteside were both in the same bracket at the qualifier and Isbell beat the kid that beat Whiteside on the way to his championship. With all that said I think Hamm did a great job for preseason rankings. Everything will shake itself out as the season gets going and we see what weights the wrestlers actually end up at.

That’s awesome! Congrats to all of our placers.

Matchups like the one you guys are talking about are the reason I make it a priority to attend the Cleveland Duals every year. It’s a fun event for wrestling fans. I had the chance to watch that match live. If I remember correctly, Palmer had took Whitworth down a couple times in the first 2 periods to get his points. Whitworth was down 4-1 with less than a minute to go when he tilted Palmer twice. It kind of looked like Palmer thought he had it won and was stalling it out on bottom / gassed. It was a great comeback win for Whitworth. After the match, I personally felt like the result would be reversed in a rematch as Palmer controlled the majority of that match. The point of all that was to say that I wouldn’t say Whitworth automatically beats Horst just because of that match. We have no idea how close the wrestle off was either. I was torn and ended up voting for Whitworth, but I agree with Bump that if all 3 wrestled multiple times, they all probably come out with wins and losses over each other.

Thanks for the info. I agree. I would love to see results, lineups, etc.

I’ll play along.

Is this tournament still happening this weekend? It was removed from track, and I haven’t heard anything else about it.

Here’s who I had at the top of each weight class before the voting. 106 - Morris 113 - Borders 120 - Palmer 126 - Whitworth 132 - Bowers 138 - Story 145 - Wittman 152 - Rippy 160 - Reiniche 170 - Sell 182 - Salter 195 - Brackett 220 - Boeck 285 - Henry

I was wondering the same thing. Nothing against Diehl but he doesn’t beat Reiniche. Mason’s my #1 P4P in the state.

I agree completely. I wasn’t necessarily saying the ones I mentioned were better. Like you said, I think they’re both decision matches no matter who wins. I was just surprised at the voting spread, and figured there would be more matches that were closer to 50/50.

I’m having just as much fun with this as last year’s poll. I was just scrolling through the semis to see how people were voting. Most are going how I expected, but a couple were surprising me. I figured the Bates vs Uhorchuk matchup at 106 would be a little closer (currently 63-37 Bates). I know Uhorchuk is AA, so people might not realize how tough he is. He’s proven he can hang by beating Devaney (AAA 113 3rd place) during the season. I’m not saying he would beat Bates. I just thought the voting would be closer. The other one is the Chittum vs Cannon matchup. I had trouble picking a winner, and thought of it as more of a 50/50 matchup (currently 85-15 Chittum). Cannon had an awesome year only losing in state 2 times to the same opponent. They both defeated Anthony (D2 126 runner up) this season. Chittum won 6-2, and Cannon won 14-0. I’m not saying Cannon would win, but based off the common opponent I voted for him. I know Chittum and Bates are just as tough though, so I understand people voting for them. I think both matches would be close. I’m looking forward to voting on the finals matchups.

This gave me a good laugh today. Someone’s trolling you Bump.

Thank you for doing this. I know it will take a lot of time to set it up.

I’d love to vote on this again. Last year’s was a lot of fun. Instead of taking all that time to seed each weight class, I would take a similar approach to how our state brackets get done by splitting the finalists from each division. Example at 106: Top half of bracket - Morris (1st D2), AAA and AA 2nd, 3rd, 6th , D2 4th & 5th Bottom half of bracket - Bates (1st AAA), Uhorchuk (1st AA), AAA and AA 4th, 5th, D2 2nd, 3rd, 6th Basically just pick the state champ you think is the best, and put them on the top half. Place the other 2 champs on the other side. Let all the others fall into their slots. Doing it this way guarantees that you wouldn’t have a finals rematch, unless they met in the finals of this bracket. This way if we think the best 2 wrestlers in the state are from the same division, we can vote that way. Also, I don’t know if we would want wild cards, but I’d love to have River Henry in the 285 bracket.

I don’t think that’s a crazy prediction at all. Pond has a very good chance of coming out on top. His name probably just isn’t being thrown around as much because the other 2 are defending state champions. I also think you might be right about the size with Horst and the injury with Martin possibly hindering them. It wouldn’t be a surprise to me if any of the 3 won it all.

Thanks for the info and I agree with everything you said. It should be really exciting to see it all play out.

I think there are a lot of question marks around Martin that make it tough to predict what will happen. It’s going to be really hard to be ready with less than a month to go after sitting out injured for so long. If we knew we were getting a 100% Martin then I think he is the favorite. I just don’t know what to expect of him though. After sitting out and not being able to train, I’m also wondering if his weight will even be down to 126. I have zero knowledge of the situation, and am not saying these are actual issues. They are just some of the things I am questioning.