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We play Overton on Tuesday. The only common opponent we've had is Hillsboro. They won 4-3, us 3-0. That in itself proves nothing. They have definately played a tougher schedule than us and have been playing well lately. We also are playing better avenging a 3-0 district loss in regular season with a 2-1 win in the finals. Should be a fun game..our schools are only about 1o miles away fron each other and most of us know each other pretty well. Any thoughts?

Our team( Glencliff) is composed entirely of "ethnic" players. We have players from 9 different countries I believe. I'll just say this there a very few games when we aren't " asked " to go back home in not so nice terms. Coach stresses to us to keep our cool because all those guys are trying to do is get us mad. Maybe someday we can all just play soccer together and not worry about where we all came from.

Looks like Overton beat Franklin Brentwood beats Indy Overton vs Brentwood in the finals

Whoa there skippy. Our team is very good. We had a rough stretch at the end because we sat 5 starters the last two weeks from injuries. 4 will be back tomorrow, the one with the broken collar bone is obviously still out. If you compare our scores against common opponents to some schools you consider good I'm sure you'll see we beat them just as well as other teams did. 2 years ago... everyone said we had no chance against Ravenwood in the Regionals..we won. Last year Antioch from our district beat Ravenwood in the regions. This year who knows. But I'll tell you this Wilson central has a good team and just because a team isnt a power every year doesnt mean they cant do well. No one said win state but make to sectionals is possible.

Just to clarify I'm not saying its okay to say the f-bomb. I'm saying I hear it all the time in football and basketball games and it is not a ejection from the game nor having to sit a game out. Just saying I think soccer players are held to a higher standard than others, of course our sport is better so maybe we should be /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Glencliff 4 Antioch 0 McGavock 4 Hunters Lane 0 Both teams controlled the game and each could have scored more and rested players. Our school sat out two starters who have recovered from injuries but the coach didnt want to rush them back in. Finals at 6:00 at Glencliff Thursday

This is my point exactly and no offense to the ref who posted, but the rules are so unequally enforced. A foul in one game is not in the next. A yellow card in one game isnt even a foul in the next. Players and coaches get very frustrated by the total inconcistencies out there. Can this be fixed..I dont know...but to suspend players for a hard foul. Like was posted what about personal fouls in basketball and football. Do they sit out a game...no. How about the fact that many refs now will not even speak to a player/coach to let him even question a call. I've heard many times a coach or player being told to shut up. At the district tourney last night a fan yelled at the ref about a " bad call" on two occasions. The ref had him ejected from the game. I was just watching the game and not even involved but I thought it was really weak to eject him. Geez in basketball they would have to clear the stands. Okay enough rant. Is reffeing a thankless job...yes, is it well paid...eh I disagree a little $55 for 2 hours isnt horrible( not great either), do refs need to lighten up on red cards...absolutely. I think they should always reach for yellow execpt in extreme cases. Just my opinion.

Also keep in mind it is easier to get ejected in soccer than any other sport. In football if you push another player you might get a flag, in soccer you'll likely get red carded. Cussing on the field, hear it all the time in football games. In soccer yellow or red ( yes we had a player that said f-you to another player last year get a red card) How about a hard tackle from behind..red card. Illegal hit in football, a flag. Soccer players and coaches are held to a higher standard already than other sports. Watch a football or basketball game and see how much talk occurs between the ref and coach. In soccer a coach can argue one call and get a yellow. If anything TSSAA needs to have officials lighten up on red cards not increase them.

Green weeds do well this time of year /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> I'd take any grass that grows right now..so bermuda is kinda out

As the one person ( yes Glencliff 20 is me also ) who gave Wislon Central credit( "a nobody in soccer" I beleive someone said) I expect a bunch of "you were right, they are much better than we thought " /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Well the good news is Wilson Central plays Hendersonville this week. If they win that game it wont matter they were ranked lower cuz they'll jump a lot of teams. If they dont then they would have dropped anyways. I give full credit to WC for winning the game but I think we had the better team. Our goalie just made a few mistakes that he hasnt made all year and they got some easy goals. But it doesnt matter, polls mean nothing until later in the year. I actually hope WC wins as that makes us look even better. We should have beaten Lavergne but tied and then they tied Gallatin and beat hendersonville. We lose to WC and if thet beat hendersonville then that loss doesnt seem so bad either. Our focus though is on winning all we have left and the distrcit, if that gets us ranked higher then great, if not then we'll see Brentwood/Ravenwood or whoever from that side in the regionals and can find out if we are as good as we think.

Cant say for sure but your school must have done this and not TSSAA. They are two seperate sports, I dont see how they could keep you out of football for what happened in soccer. Also a soft red does not have next game suspension. Only a straight red does. So two yellows and your out for that game and can sub in a player. Straight red and you are out for that game and at least the next, school can add more time if they choose to.

We (Glencliff) hosted them tonight and they have a very good team. Play very physical and have some solid players. We jumped out to a 1-0 half lead but let in two ( what our team would call) bad goals. One miscommunication between keeper and fullback where neither played the ball and their guy poked it in. The other where our sweeper had a swing and a miss and their guy walked in uncontested to the goalie. But you cant have those mistakes in tough games or you'll lose. We'll learn from this hopefully and come back even stronger. Again congrats to WC and good luck.

The game ended in a 0-0 tie. I'd say we(Glencliff) had the best opportunities the first half with a few good looks. The beginning of the second half was fairly even. By the end of the game Lavergne had the best looks with several direct and indirects right at the box ( darn refs /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> ). We were a bit tired with two starters out tonight and our bench doesnt go super deep. Lavergne definately has a good team with some solid players and I wish them good luck the rest of the season.

Well we play them tonight at Glencliff. Both teams are undefeated right now and we usually have really good games with them so I am excited to play. Unfortunately our center mid got a hairline fracture in his collarbone the other day so we will be without him, but we have good subs so we adjust like any team does. I'll write back tomorrow and let you know what I think about them. I suspect they have a good team though and they have a good coach from what I heard so should be fun. Hope the rain stays away /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Monday we played at Stratford and one official was 25 minutes late. We started the game without him. He showed up about 20 minutes into the game. Our coach told him after the game he was going to turn him in for being late as this has happened before with him. The official refused to give the coach his name. Our coach just asked the other coach and got it( it was their home game) The funniest part was the official turned the coach into TSSAA for " yelling at him and coming at him in an aggresive manner and said the coach yelled at him until he finally had to leave". All the players on both teams and the other coaches were around as this was at mid field and this never happened. He basically lied to the TSSAA probably because he knew our coach was turning him in. I have heard its hard to get enough officials but guys like him that show up late like this and then make up wild stories should not be officiating. I think our coach was getting witness statements to send into TSSAA that prove the ref was lieing. By the way I know there are some good refs out there but TSSAA really needs to find a system to control the bad ones. We won easily by the way so it wasnt a sour grapes thing for losing.

Okay at end of game we play a thru ball. Our player gets it and is all alone. Nears top of box and keeper is coming out and then...ref blows whistle and says game over right as he is starting to shoot. Player makes shot but it was about 2 seconds after whitsle. Now the goal didnt matter, we were up 5-1 and had scrubs in but maybe I've just missed it but has anyone ever been in a game with a player going one on one with a goalie and the refs stopping it? Seems to me you let play continue in that situation..of course this ref was 20 minutes late to the game so why should expect him to stay an extra 10 seconds. Was very weird.

Just to bring up a counterpoint, does winning state titles mean you are a great coach? Can you be a great coach and not win state? I think there are certain teams with so much talent that naturally comes to their school that I think many coaches could take that team to state( please dont think I'm putting down those coaches as I'm sure many are great coaches) There are other teams that might win the district with less talent because the coach does an awesome job getting the most out of his players. His team might lose when it reaches the powerhouses in the region but does that make him any less a great coach? In high school it seems the coach is limited by what the feeder schools send him. A great coach with a team without talent can only go so far, whereas a great team with an average coach can probably still go very far. Just something to kick around. And again not trying to take anything away from the coaches of the big tme soccer programs, I'm sure they do make the difference in getting to state and winning it.

Preseason records mean nothing really. Yea there are some teams that we know will be great but many teams rankings are based on previous reputation. If your team does well you'll be in the polls at the end..when it counts. My school (Glencliff) is not mentioned at all either and neither is McGavok yet Antioch is based on last years results. I think anyone in our district would put us both ahead of Antioch this year, they lost a lot to graduaton. I dont make a stink because we play some of the teams on that list. If we win we move up, if we dont we have no reason to complain anyways.

Soccer is a whole different thing in Metro. We dont have the support at our schools to even get gate workers half the time, much less enough people to do the National anthem. The band plays it for football games, but obviously they are not there for soccer. We dont have announcers for the pregame or anything like that. I would love it but the parent involvement is just not there. Just like we would like to have a soccer field and not a football field converted to soccer. We do the best we can. There is no offense by the anthem though as its not ever played because of lack of man power. I know our coach does almost everything for the team. Handles all fundraisers, marks the field, gets officials checks, doesnt even have a game administrator most of the time. Maybe one day soccer will get the respect in Metro schools it deserves. It was a good game from what I hear and I hope both teams do well in the sectionals. YCF

We played Brentwood last year in the regional finals as well and our team is very similar to Antiochs. We have about 7 countries represented on our team. I will not paint the whole program with a broad brush but they were having senior night last year and during the game about 100 kids came out and lined the fence. They shouted all kinds of racial things at our team. "Go home wetbacks" was common and one student was even yelling about killing one of our players. The game administrator finally had to remove the whole group of students. By the way our fans at the Cliff can say some bad things too so I wont act like were so much better. I'd just ask all spectators to cheer for your team and leave the comments about the other teams alone. Yelling at the refs is always good though YCF

Well not to pat my own back but I believe I said that Antioch could win this one The player for Antioch that got the red was a very good player and that will be a big problem against Brentwood. YCF

First of all I was not talking smack and you should not jump to conclusions so fast. The "they" I was referring to was people on this board who commented on that game. I have no idea what school "they" were from. Just making a point that for years everyone has totally discounted the schools from Nashville(with good reason) and we have gotten much stronger. I promise you that Antioch is better than you think. We played them 3 times this year, in finals of tournament and in the districts. They have some great players and no I'm not saying Ravenwood doesnt because obviously they do as well. I am simply saying if you think Ravenwood will show up and beat them 4-0 I think you are wrong. My opinion and thats all it is. Come tomorrow I might be eating my words and if so I'll gladly post here and admit I was wrong. Will you be man enough to do the same if its not 4-0? As for us not making it out of the districts, that is totally true. We lost 4 starters due to injuries and we dont have the depth a lot of teams had. So we lost some games we shouldnt have...end result we had to play Antioch in the semis, where once again our best player was out...this time because he was a moron and got a red card. But all teams get injuries and we finished were we finished. So I agree we have no reason to talk smack and I totally wasnt. I was defending Antioch and reminding people not to just pencil in an all Williamson county final. Our district is not as weak as it was in the past. Good luck to your team as I have no ill feelings toward your school. YCF

Yeh thats what they said about Glencliff from that district last year right before they beat Ravenwood.

I think dirty really depends on the rivalry. Two teams might be fine when playing other teams but if they are district rivals their games might be "more aggresive" than when they play other teams. I know when we play Antioch our(Glencliff) rival the games are usually marred by many yellow cards and lots of high emotion. Yet we can play other teams and not have a single problem. So I'll say I dont know of a team that is always dirty( though there could be one) I think it all boils down to the rivalry of the game in most cases.