FutbalFan Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 First, Congrats to both teams. Great soccer, a joy to watch. Some comparisons using Eurosport stats (I hope they are right): Records: Franklin 24-0-0 ESPN #7 NSCAA #10 Baylor 19-1-0 ESPN #6 NSCAA #7 (Loss 1-0 at Zionsville Invitational in Indiana) Signature Win: Franklin vs Farragut (ESPN #13) Baylor vs Strongsville, Ohio (ESPN #8, ESPN #1 at the time) Goals For: Franklin 130 ave = 5.4 Baylor 74 ave = 3.7 Goals Against: Franklin 7 ave = 0.29 Baylor 4 ave = 0.20 Championship Game Stats: Franklin wins 3-0, shots: for 12, against 6 Baylor wins 2-0, shots: for 11, against 6 After watching both teams in Chattanooga, I'd say it's a toss-up and would probably be determined on a set play goal after a scramble in box. And wasn't it a great week for soccer in Chattanooga !! Great location, Great fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukelea Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 As I posted elsewhere, I thought Baylor played better yesterday than in many a year -- maybe going all the way back to their glory days a decade ago when they won four titles in a row. It was textbook soccer til up near the end, especially on the defense: relentleslys pressing, pressing, pressing. Tenny Butler completely shut down St. Agnes's start forward by not giving her an inch of space to turn in. But then the same could be said of all the rest of her teammates. It was quite a show, impressive, a sheer pleasure to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaCannon Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 1320590435[/url]' post='2726269']As I posted elsewhere, I thought Baylor played better yesterday than in many a year -- maybe going all the way back to their glory days a decade ago when they won four titles in a row. It was textbook soccer til up near the end, especially on the defense: relentleslys pressing, pressing, pressing. Tenny Butler completely shut down St. Agnes's start forward by not giving her an inch of space to turn in. But then the same could be said of all the rest of her teammates. It was quite a show, impressive, a sheer pleasure to watch. This is definitely the best Baylor team I have witnessed and the best high school team I have ever witnessed. If they have a weakness, it's not represented on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95GSoccer Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Reminds me of the old Animal Planet Faceoff TV Show. The two Tennessee megaliths have played three times in their storied history. Of course, Franklin won one game, and Baylor won one game, and they tied the other time. 1993 8-0 Franklin 1999 1-1 Tie 2002 1-0 Baylor Looking at their schedules, they play most of the same private school opponents year in and year out; too bad they don't get around to playing each other any more frequently than they do. Here's how they faired this recently, verses against same-played opponents. 2011 8-0 Franklin, 6-0 Baylor vs Station Camp 3-1 Franklin, 5-1 Baylor vs BGA 5-0 Franklin, 6-0 Baylor vs PJPII 6-0 Franklin, 4-0 Baylor vs Harpeth Hall 3-0 Franklin, 2-0, 3-0 Baylor vs Father Ryan 9-0 Franklin, 3-0 Baylor vs Ensworth 2010 2-0 Franklin, 4-0 Baylor vs McMinn Co 2-2 Franklin, 2-1 Baylor vs CPA 2-1 Franklin, 1-0 Baylor vs Ravenwood 3-0, 3-1 Franklin, 1-0 Baylor vs Father Ryan 5-0 Franklin, 4-0 Baylor vs Harpeth Hall 3-2 Franklin, 6-0 Baylor vs PJPII 2009 1-0 Franklin, 1-0 Baylor vs BGA 2-1 Franklin, 2-0 Baylor vs Riverdale 3-0 Franklin, 1-0 Baylor vs Collierville 1-0 Franklin, 3-0 Baylor vs Harpeth Hall 3-0 Franklin, 3-0 Baylor vs Father Ryan 6-2 Franklin, 1-1, 2-1 Baylor vs PJPII Edited November 7, 2011 by 95GSoccer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutbalFan Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 95G, Thanks for the additional info. It clearly points to the better team, NOT. Looks they should definitiely schedule each other every year !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAMPDDS Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 For those that have Franklin and Baylor 'influences'...let's get that matchup a reality... D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95GSoccer Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) With Franklin and Baylor's seasons finished, the latest National Rankings are out. The NSCAA (National Soccer Coaches Assoc. of America) National Ranking has Franklin #4, and Baylor # 14 (link). The ESPN/Powerade National Ranking also has Franklin #4, and has Baylor #3 (link). Edited November 9, 2011 by 95GSoccer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaCannon Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) With Franklin and Baylor's seasons finished, the latest National Rankings are out. The NSCAA (National Soccer Coaches Assoc. of America) National Ranking has Franklin #4, and Baylor # 14 (link). The ESPN/Powerade National Ranking also has Franklin #4, and has Baylor #3 (link). If I had a vote, Bishop Kelly High School in Boise, Idaho, would be my #1. (please note sarcasm) Being ranked nationally is both an honor and meaningless. Edited November 9, 2011 by ChattanoogaCannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_do_it Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 If I had a vote, Bishop Kelly High School in Boise, Idaho, would be my #1. (please note sarcasm) Being ranked nationally is both an honor and meaningless. As a casual empiricist, I have observed that national rankings do seem to mean more to those who are ranked than to those who are not. But to say the rankings are "meaningless" seems a bit strong. What it "means" is that you have a near flawless record, you play top competition and that you have a handful of DI athletes on the team. Does the actual ranking mean a lot? Probably not. Are worthy teams omitted from the rankings? Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutbalFan Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 As a casual empiricist, I have observed that national rankings do seem to mean more to those who are ranked than to those who are not. But to say the rankings are "meaningless" seems a bit strong. What it "means" is that you have a near flawless record, you play top competition and that you have a handful of DI athletes on the team. Does the actual ranking mean a lot? Probably not. Are worthy teams omitted from the rankings? Absolutely. Well said. I think we have gone full circle. These are two very good teams. Which one is better? Hard or impossible to tell. Even playing a single game may not tell us as we know how soccer can be. I just think it would be a great game to watch, and then post about later as the outcome is discussed/argued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChattanoogaCannon Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 As a casual empiricist, I have observed that national rankings do seem to mean more to those who are ranked than to those who are not. But to say the rankings are "meaningless" seems a bit strong. What it "means" is that you have a near flawless record, you play top competition and that you have a handful of DI athletes on the team. Does the actual ranking mean a lot? Probably not. Are worthy teams omitted from the rankings? Absolutely. I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Perhaps a better word than "meaningless" could have been used, which I tried to express by calling it an "honor" as well. I think it is terrific for Baylor and Franklin to be recognized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95GSoccer Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 For those that are interested, National Ranking Updated, 11/15/2011. The ESPN/Powerade National Ranking has Franklin #2, and has Baylor #3 (link). The NSCAA (National Soccer Coaches Assoc. of America) National Ranking has Franklin #3, and Baylor # 11 (link). Other TN Teams Nationally Ranked: #29 Farragut #31 CAK #33 Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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