gchunn Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 quick question. What are the results when a player is given a "soft" red? I have only seen it in person twice, and both penalties were different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVM Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 quick question. What are the results when a player is given a "soft" red? I have only seen it in person twice, and both penalties were different. In HS 2 yellows equal a "soft red". That player is done for the rest of the game, BUT the team does NOT have to play down. If a straight red is thrown then that team does have to play down. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchunn Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 In HS 2 yellows equal a "soft red". That player is done for the rest of the game, BUT the team does NOT have to play down. If a straight red is thrown then that team does have to play down. Hope this helps. Does the player who receives the soft red have to sit out the next game, or 2 games, or can he play the next game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVM Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Does the player who receives the soft red have to sit out the next game, or 2 games, or can he play the next game? Not 100% sure but I believe soft red is 1 game and hard red is 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchunn Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Not 100% sure but I believe soft red is 1 game and hard red is 2. Thanks MVM, I do know that a "hard" red is 2 games, just not sure about the soft red. SEVERAL years ago we were in a game where there was a player that received a "soft" red. The team had to play a man down and the player had to sit out the remainder of that game but was allowed to play the next game. Tonight, a player from the opposing team received a "soft" red. They continued to play with 11,but the center ref stated that he would have to sit out the next game. Just wasn't sure what the correct ruling was. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesis Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Thanks MVM, I do know that a "hard" red is 2 games, just not sure about the soft red. SEVERAL years ago we were in a game where there was a player that received a "soft" red. The team had to play a man down and the player had to sit out the remainder of that game but was allowed to play the next game. Tonight, a player from the opposing team received a "soft" red. They continued to play with 11,but the center ref stated that he would have to sit out the next game. Just wasn't sure what the correct ruling was. Thanks again! What the rules states and how it is applied can be very different unfortunately. Hope the article below is helpful as there is now some clarity from the NFHS in this recent news release. “Soft Red†Eliminated in High School Soccer FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Mark Koski INDIANAPOLIS, IN (February 13, 2012) — In a continued emphasis on improving sportsmanship, the “soft red†has been eliminated in high school soccer. Effective with the 2012-13 season, a second yellow card not only will disqualify a player, but the team will not be permitted to substitute for the disqualified player. Previously, a team was permitted to replace a player who had received a second yellow card. This significant change was one of three rules revisions passed by the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) Soccer Rules Committee at its January 23-25 meeting in Indianapolis. These changes were subsequently approved by the NFHS Board of Directors. Another change in Rule 12-8-1f now will disqualify a player who deliberately handles a ball in his/her own penalty area to prevent it from going in the goal only when the attempt to deny the goal is successful. If a goal is scored, the penalty is now a caution. Previously, a player was disqualified for trying to stop a goal from being scored, whether the try was successful or not. “Obviously, with two of our three changes this year in Rule 12 (Fouls and Misconduct), the Soccer Rules Committee continues to focus on improving the level of sportsmanship in high school soccer,†said Mark Koski, NFHS director of sports and events and liaison to the Soccer Rules Committee. The other change approved by the committee involves the taking of a penalty kick. If some unusual situation occurs after the penalty kick is properly taken and before the ball is played or touched by another player, or before the ball hits the goalpost or crossbar, which necessitates a temporary suspension in play, the penalty kick shall be retaken. Previously, this would have resulted in a drop ball. “As an example, if the ball deflated immediately after a penalty kick was taken and play was suspended, the player now will have the opportunity to attempt the penalty kick again,†Koski said. Soccer is the fifth-most popular sport for boys and girls at the high school level. According to the 2010-11High School Athletics Participation Survey, 398,351 boys are involved in soccer and 361,556 girls participate in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesis Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Also the TSSAA rule on how Red Card's are handles is below. It's a 2 game suspension unless the card falls into one of the 2 categories outlined below. What the rules states and how it is applied can be very different unfortunately. Hope the article below is helpful as there is now some clarity from the NFHS in this recent news release. “Soft Red†Eliminated in High School Soccer FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Mark Koski INDIANAPOLIS, IN (February 13, 2012) — In a continued emphasis on improving sportsmanship, the “soft red†has been eliminated in high school soccer. Effective with the 2012-13 season, a second yellow card not only will disqualify a player, but the team will not be permitted to substitute for the disqualified player. Previously, a team was permitted to replace a player who had received a second yellow card. This significant change was one of three rules revisions passed by the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) Soccer Rules Committee at its January 23-25 meeting in Indianapolis. These changes were subsequently approved by the NFHS Board of Directors. Another change in Rule 12-8-1f now will disqualify a player who deliberately handles a ball in his/her own penalty area to prevent it from going in the goal only when the attempt to deny the goal is successful. If a goal is scored, the penalty is now a caution. Previously, a player was disqualified for trying to stop a goal from being scored, whether the try was successful or not. “Obviously, with two of our three changes this year in Rule 12 (Fouls and Misconduct), the Soccer Rules Committee continues to focus on improving the level of sportsmanship in high school soccer,†said Mark Koski, NFHS director of sports and events and liaison to the Soccer Rules Committee. The other change approved by the committee involves the taking of a penalty kick. If some unusual situation occurs after the penalty kick is properly taken and before the ball is played or touched by another player, or before the ball hits the goalpost or crossbar, which necessitates a temporary suspension in play, the penalty kick shall be retaken. Previously, this would have resulted in a drop ball. “As an example, if the ball deflated immediately after a penalty kick was taken and play was suspended, the player now will have the opportunity to attempt the penalty kick again,†Koski said. Soccer is the fifth-most popular sport for boys and girls at the high school level. According to the 2010-11High School Athletics Participation Survey, 398,351 boys are involved in soccer and 361,556 girls participate in the sport. Also from the TSSAA here is how Section 7. Student Athletes Ejected for Unsportsmanlike Conduct in Any Sport A. In contests in which registered TSSAA officials are involved, the officials will immediately notify the state office with both a telephone call and a written report if players are ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct. In soccer, this would be for a RED CARD ONLY. In sports where registered TSSAA officials are not used, it will be the responsibility of the principal and/or coach of the player involved to report this incident to the state office. B. On the ejection of the student-athlete, the school will be required to submit a report on the action of the player and any disciplinary action taken by the school. The minimum penalty will be as follows: 1. Football – 1 Game Suspension 2. Soccer – 2 Game Suspension except for the following offenses which shall result in a 1 Game Suspension: a. A player anywhere on the field (other than a goalkeeper within his/her own penalty area) who deliberately handles a ball to prevent it from going into the goal. b. A foul by a player against an opponent who is moving toward his/her offensive goal with an obvious opportunity to score. 3. All other sports – 2 Game Suspension The student-athlete is also suspended from all levels of participation (varsity, junior varsity, freshman) the same number of contest(s) in the sport involved. If the student-athlete is a senior and cannot fulfill all of the disciplinary action due to the completion of the season, he/she will fulfill the action in the next sport in which they participate. C. In addition to what is presently required when a player is ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct, a meeting shall be held with the player, coach, principal, and parent(s) or guardian(s) with a report on the meeting and plans to directly address the matter to be filed with the state office. D. If a player is ejected for a second time for unsportsmanlike conduct, a more severe punishment shall be imposed. E. Other non-monetary penalties may be assessed by the Executive Director based on all the facts. F. In all situations where ejections occur for unsportsmanlike conduct, the individual will be removed from the next contest(s) following the one in which the ejection occurred. Edited March 14, 2012 by genesis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchunn Posted March 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Thanks. Good to see that this rule is being eliminated. “Soft Red†Eliminated in High School Soccer FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Mark Koski INDIANAPOLIS, IN (February 13, 2012) — In a continued emphasis on improving sportsmanship, the “soft red†has been eliminated in high school soccer. Effective with the 2012-13 season, a second yellow card not only will disqualify a player, but the team will not be permitted to substitute for the disqualified player. Previously, a team was permitted to replace a player who had received a second yellow card. This significant change was one of three rules revisions passed by the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) Soccer Rules Committee at its January 23-25 meeting in Indianapolis. These changes were subsequently approved by the NFHS Board of Directors. Another change in Rule 12-8-1f now will disqualify a player who deliberately handles a ball in his/her own penalty area to prevent it from going in the goal only when the attempt to deny the goal is successful. If a goal is scored, the penalty is now a caution. Previously, a player was disqualified for trying to stop a goal from being scored, whether the try was successful or not. “Obviously, with two of our three changes this year in Rule 12 (Fouls and Misconduct), the Soccer Rules Committee continues to focus on improving the level of sportsmanship in high school soccer,†said Mark Koski, NFHS director of sports and events and liaison to the Soccer Rules Committee. The other change approved by the committee involves the taking of a penalty kick. If some unusual situation occurs after the penalty kick is properly taken and before the ball is played or touched by another player, or before the ball hits the goalpost or crossbar, which necessitates a temporary suspension in play, the penalty kick shall be retaken. Previously, this would have resulted in a drop ball. “As an example, if the ball deflated immediately after a penalty kick was taken and play was suspended, the player now will have the opportunity to attempt the penalty kick again,†Koski said. Soccer is the fifth-most popular sport for boys and girls at the high school level. According to the 2010-11High School Athletics Participation Survey, 398,351 boys are involved in soccer and 361,556 girls participate in the sport. Edited March 15, 2012 by gchunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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