#2 cleveland @ #3 bradley central

[HUCK]

Does the SOS also include the out of state teams that Bradley beat in the Christmas tournament. You look at the schedules and honestly tell me that Cleveland has played a tougher schedule. Cleveland hasn't played anybody, but East Tennessee teams. Bradley has played Oakland and Lebanon. The Middle Tennessee teams are the ones they will play in sub-state. Reaching the state tournament is a goal of every team and Bradley is a constant contender and not a pretender like some other WHINEY teams that complain instead of absorbing their loses.

[smallie]

Huck,

Your opinion that the polls don't mean much is well taken but my point is that the sportswriters believe that Cleveland had the game taken away from them. Bradley should be ranked ahead of Cleveland if they had a legitimate win in the second game.

[nick32]

It will take beating Cleveland in the region finals for Bradley to get any respect. It doesn't matter that they have convincingly beat all other district teams and beat Cleveland twice. Once on Clevelands homecourt. Or that Bradley has played a much tougher schedule than Cleveland. Note that Cleveland played Sweetwater, McMinn Central and Walker Valley all AA schools. But all in all do the polls really matter? No...... Hang in there Bradley and show those pollsters who is really the best team. And do you really think that a second win over Cleveland would have made a difference. Bradley beat them once at Cleveland and the voters didn't change their minds. Then they beat them a second time (oh but I forgot they cheated that time) and they still didn't change. That is a stupid remark to say that the voters think Cleveland got cheated. None of them were even at the game. What a stupid remark! :confused:

[Edited by nick32 on 2-19-03 1:12P]

[smallie]

Huck,

I don't know for sure but I doubt out of state teams are part of the SOS formula. No doubt about it, Cleveland has played a much tougher in-state schedule. How many teams did Bradley play in Alabama (4?) with at least one team being a cupcake. I would doubt that those Alabama teams would do much to change the weaker in-state scheduling of Bradley.

[nick32]

Uh- Sweetwater, McMinn Central, Ooltewah, Walker Valley? Yes I would say that is very tough. And to think that Cleveland actually beat those tough teams? my oh my, they should be number one playing a schedule like that. I can see that those teams are much better than Lebanon or Oakland. Talk about schedules all you want but Bradley's record against Cleveland is 2-0. The SOS does NOT include out of state teams that they have played.

[smallie]

Cleveland played Walker Valley because they are in the same county. McMinn Central is consistently one of the better AA programs; The MC athletic director contacted Cleveland about playing. Sweetwater is traditional a tough AA team, besides it is Coach Green's hometown.

 

My question is who did Bradley play that is tough outside the region? Cleveland played Bearden, William Blount, and Oak Ridge.

[Mobee1]

For all you Cleveland crybabies watch sportsvision Thrusday night and you'll see the replay of the "foul". Make all the excuses you want but it doesn't change the fact that the Baby Blue Raiders are 0-2 against the Bears this year. The polls say one thing but the standings is what counts.

[smallie]

Nick32,

 

well i guess Oakland is a quality win, but Lebenon? Get real they are 13-10.

[smallie]

mobee1,

 

I have already seen video replay. In the final four mins, by my estimate, the refs failed to call 4 calls against the bears; called 2 touch-fouls against cleveland that were inconsistent with the way things had been called the previous three quarters; and incorrectly called 1 more foul against cleveland and this was all before the jumpball and the kellen's dripple off the knee/foul on cleveland to set up the free throws for the win.

[HUCK]

Nick32,

 

You have listed 3 AA teams and a District 6 2nd place team. Can you provide a better list, like AAA teams or out of state teams that would be legitmate competition. Bradley played three Alabama teams, Oak Ridge, Oakland, not to mention the out of state teams they played in the Thanksgiving tournament. We'll see in the end who the better team is.

[Edited by HUCK on 2-19-03 2:03P]

[Edited by HUCK on 2-19-03 2:04P]

 

[mnewballer21]

ooltewah is 2nd place in district 6 not 4th

thanks for the edit, huck

[Edited by mnewballer21 on 2-19-03 2:05P]

 

[HUCK]

How are 4000 fans going to fit in the capacity 2000 Cleveland gym during the region tournamnet. They ought to move it to a bigger facility like McKenzie. hum... Better not...Coach Green will have an excuse for losing.