randymc

I like Lincoln Co going west, that's where they belong GEOGRAPHICALLY, BUT doesn't Brentwood have only 7 wins and McGavock and Overton both have 8 wins? making Brenwood #7? Also, I have no clue why TSSAA changed and moved Blackman into the East last week and Oakland into the West. So, 2 and 3 weeks ago, Oakland was more geographic to the east, but last week Blackman is....something's fishy here (I dont think they want to have Oakland and Blackman in the same quad, because Oakland would be seeded ahead of Blackman). Anyway, looks to me like my Patriots get Coffee Co, Brentwood or Overton.

Would you say Ensworth would not infer to "potential student athletes" that an A at Ensworth is better than an A at a public school? Or that even a C at Ensworth is better than an A at a public school? I know that this is the message they send out. And, in this case, that doesn't seem like it's necessarily true. Of course I do not know how much headway he made towards his education, but I know one thing, there is no was Ensworth sold his parents that he would be in this position his senior season.

I never said I didn't care, not having a dog in the fight means I have an opinion, but could care less about the outcome. I am not sure if stating my opinion on the kids work ethic the two nights I saw him is an insult, but I will stand by my statement that he was very lazy. I would expect an all american to be DOMINANT at his position, and he was out manned by our line on every single snap, often times standing straight up after never getting down in a proper stance. Simple thing like this point out a lot about a kids work ethic. Too bad most people don't focus on these things as a casual fan during a football game. Nothing vague about my accusations. Numerous 2.0 students from many public schools qualify for the NCAA clearing house every year, it's a fact, look at the rosters at most every division 1 school and you'll find them. So the tauting of the academics at Ensworth would make one believe that an A at Ensworth is superior to an A at say, Oakland High School, and therefore a C at Ensworth would be far superior to a C at Oakland High School. When in reality I know it's not the A or the C because those are all pretty arbitrary, it's the amount of work that goes into that grade...and here we are back at work ethic.....see a common theme? And so, the work ethic that is the key, with work ethic will come academic and athletic success. Nowhere did I say the school did something wrong, BUT the fact that Ensworth tauts their academics so highly to their, lets call them potential student athletes, something, or somebody failed in this case, and I think that's rather obvious.

Well, your choice of words is poor here, it doesn't matter WHO you beat, just that you beat another team.

I would be all for a selection committee, like the NCAA basketball tournament, it would be a more fair way to do it (it works for NCAA), I would even be for picking teams in the A, AA, AAA, or AAAA so no appeared biases come out. Or even a BCS type formula that took several factors into account (record, schedule (remember when original BCS included this) and computer rankings), neither are without flaws though.

besides an automatic berth to the playoffs that might not be guaranteed if you were 4-6 against a really tough schedule, but 4-0 in your district.

Agreed, last year 3 way tie in 7AAA (team A beating team B, losing to team C in OT, team B losing to team A, beating team C in OT, and team C beating team A in OT, and losing to team B in OT). In their non-district schedules team A played Lincon Co (3-7), Ensworth (9-0), Brentwood(8-2), Chrisitan Co KY (finished 8-2) , and Independence (5-5 playoff team) non district losing only to Ensworth in OT, team B played Lincoln Co (3-7) Tullahoma (4-6), Brentwood (8-2), Cane Ridge (0-10), and Station Camp (3-7) beating all of them, team C played Lincoln Co (3-7), Antioch (3-7), Hendersoniville (6-4), Farragut (8-2), Cookeville (7-3) and lost to Hendersonville. Final standings, team B, team C, team A. Play off seedings team B #1 in quad 2, team C #4 in quad 2, and team A #6 in quad 2. That's right, an 8-2, 2 OT loss team, playing if not the toughest schedule in the state, one of the 2 or 3 toughest, coming out of that schedule with 2 OT loses, got seeded #6 out of 8 teams in a quadrant. Hopefully some of this will be fixed with TSSAA doing away with stupid rules like #1's in districts have to be seeded ahead of #2's in other districts. The biggest problem with the TSSAA and this football format is it assumes all districts, and all schedules are equal, which I think everyone is willing to admit is not the case, even TSSAA would admit that, so why do they ignore it on selection saturday? "cupcakes" do not apply to the above situation, where overall wins places you higher in quad seedings. opponents winning % only comes into play if teams have the same number of wins.

Anyone else find it interesting that Oakland and Smyrna both play 3 of the other 4 teams. Brentwood played 3 of them too. Just shows how much scheduling has to do with how good your team becomes, too bad TSSAA rewards wins regardless of competitions first and doesn't reward that until the 2nd tiebreaker. I don't think anyone would argue that Smyrna, Blackman, Oakland, Brentwood, and Riverdale for that matter are 5 of the top 10 teams in the state regardless of classification.

I don't have much of a dog in this fight, but I've seen Ensworth play twice in the last 2 years, and I thought Richardson was one of the laziest players on the field both nights. Now that being said, I am not saying who's at fault here. I do know passing 5 classes regardless of the school is not a terribly difficult thing to do to be eligible by the TSSAA rules. BUT, the sliding scale was brought up earlier, and the fact that a 2.0 student would have to score 86 on the sum of his act sub scores. Well, if EHS (and all these other elite private schools) is such a good school, I would think their 2.0 students would have no problem doing what lots of public school 2.0 student athletes do every year Something doesn't add up here.

Looks like there are 8 spots up for grabs after looking at this a little more tonight. Theses teams have clinched based upon having won 6 games or 5 with enough opponents with winning records to finish in the top of a tie-breaker: Powell Jackson Northside Ridgeway Henry County Craigmont Knoxville West Lawrence County Columbia Daniel Boone Springfield Anderson County Beech Hendersonville Hardin County Tullahoma Knoxville Catholic Morristown West Shelbyville Tennessee High Gallatin Cleveland Mitchell Sullivan South Morristown East Teams most likely clinching with a win: Lenoir City Melrose Clarksville David Crockett

Looks like there are 8 spots up for grabs after looking at this a little more tonight. Theses teams have clinched based upon having won 6 games or 5 with enough opponents with winning records to finish in the top of a tie-breaker: Dobyns Bennett Maryville Oakland Smyrna Blackman Dickson County Whitehaven Mt. Juliet Brighton Franklin Riverdale Bradley Central Sevier County McGavock Arlington Nashville Overton Brentwood Bearden Collierville Cookeville Hardin Valley Wooddale Farragut Science Hill

But in the days of big crowds and concession stand receipts, the home games are really important. Oakland went 8-2 (2 OT loses) last year and played it's 3 playoff games on the road!

Who you beat means nothing, excepting getting you a W and closer to the post season. Interesting, so much for the East/West philosophy they have used in the past (even before last year). Looks like too much finagling could be done here to get the matchups for more $$$, I don't like it, no matter where my Patriots end up. Although I think OHS is the best team in either Quad. The word that comes to my mind is Money!

Not so sure West Creek is in.

Winning a district doesn't get you a higher seed this year, it's overall record.

I think that saturday afternoon would make more money than the state championship games.

I guess all this is assuming White Co wins?

I love the TSSAA site, it basically tells us nothing today. IT says certain teams can clinch berths if, heck OHS, RHS, BHS, and SHS already have clinced playoffa berths. I know they are talking about Automatic berths, but no where does it say that, only says they will qualify. We know more information by having discussions here really.

Years ago TSSAA allowed playing playoff games on other nights besides Fridays, when Oakland and Riverdale shared MTSU field. Doubt it would be done today, but I would pay to watch all 7 games in quad 3 the way it looks today. But I am betting Siegel is in, pushing RHS east.

The way the playoffs are set up has absolutely nothing to do with the best matchups.

I would be shocked if this happened, they could care a less about balancing the brackets, its all about geography and making more $

Thanks for the props, kinda goes with the math brain, but I will admit I haven't looked as deep into it as I did last year, but feel very confident with what would happen after week 9, haven't looked at week 10 much.

Well, the last week of November would be semi-finals, and the semi-finals would have 1 quad 1 and 1 quad 4 teams left, but the quarter finals could have 4 district 7 teams left out of 8. They should put quad 3 at a neutral site and allow people to watch all the games, this will be a blood bath.

Exactly, not many casual fan will not attend in Cookeville.

Interesting, but I think it would be Riverdale instead of Blackman, Riverdale is farther East than Blackman is. I do think Siegel gets in too! Also not so sure Lincoln Co wins vs. Shelbyville. If not, Siegel is definitely in with a win it looks like.