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I'm 100% sure those innocent 17 years old players are saying much worse before, during, and after the game...

Looks like he's in.

If Webb managed to hang with the top of DII for the two years the played up, in what seemed like down years for them, I imagine that they would be able to now, especially if they are as good this season as I have heard. EHS and BA playing up isn't remotely the same situation anyways...

McCallie beats Briarcrest, BGA beats St. Ben, MBA beats Ryan, BA beats Pope. After that, all toss ups.

I bet the best tubas players look for the schools with top music programs. Much the same way as a top athlete would want to attend a school with great facilities and one of the best coaching staffs in the state. Usually, top private schools sell themselves through reputation without having to directly recruit students...so you're dumb.

Ahhhh my bad. I knew Bell Buckle did and I could have sworn that someone told me Knox Webb did as well. My apologies lol Either way, Webb was easily my favorite team to play every year and I'm glad they have seen success with the decision they made.

Ezell's isn't the nicest, but it certainly is comparable to Webb's. Also, the Pit in Columbia is definitely one of the nicest, at least aesthetics wise. I know Zion doesn't exactly have their own stadium, which is exactly why I separated them from the others. Again, how does anything you're saying count as a negative against Webb?

For one, Webb boards some students, so their facilities are going to mirror that need. Also, if you have ever played at Webb and sat in that visiting locker room, you would know they don't have the best facilities. FRA, DA, and Ezell all have comparable to be better facilities. Also, Zion plays in one of the nicest stadiums in the state...so explain that one. But that only covers the E/M. ECS,USJ, ECS, and Harding from the West are all in the same boat in terms of good facilities. You are so so so so so so so dumb. And wrong. Full of wrong.

Unfortunately cannot make the game tonight. Good luck to the Academy; should win this one pretty easily.

Next time you have a thought, just let it go. For years, Maryville and Alcoa have had the opportunities to play up (yes, even in DI), but they haven't. Teams tend to play where they are classified...that would seem the normal course of action. You also obviously don't understand that BA, EHS, BGA playing up isn't even in the same realm of decision making that would go into the administration at Webb moving up; drastically different schools in different areas with a wide variety of motivations behind their respective choices. BA and EHS are "sports" schools and BGA, by virtue of location, history, etc, has to lump themselves with those schools to compete in the private school market. Webb is much closer in the type of institution they are with DA, FRA, DCA, etc than teams in AA. The previous set up of three classes in DII would remedy your problem, but as everyone involved in DII the past decade or so has seen, this method dilutes the division...but yea, you really are making zero valid points...so stop it. Enrollment in private schools plays a far less significant role in the talent of the athletic department than it does in DI. Why do you think there's a divisional split even with the multiplier?

Wow...you're not a very intelligent person.

I'm not 100% sure, but I know he has had quite a few family members attend there, so it's a definite possibility.

Best comment I have/will ever read on here. I don't think it is as much as an excuse as it is an honest circumstance. And unless something has drastically changed since I graduated, the BGA administration will never put the emphasis on athletics that MBA, EHS, and BA do. But, with that being said, going 6-4, 8-3, 5-6, and to this point, 4-1 since they have joined DII-AA is pretty impressive. Also, going 2-2 against Baylor, 2-2 against Father Ryan, and 1-0 against McCallie, who have all been staples of Super Prep football since the public/private split, shows that they have been competing just fine with at least the upper section of the middle tier. Still, move down to DII-A, and they would win state. All the time. In more than just football. Just another example of a lack of common sense in the Williamson County bubble.

BGA Brett Brodbeck '07 - K - Toledo Jay Tully '08 - FB - Army Jamal Ramsey '09 - QB - Tennessee State Chris Reeves '09 - S - Birmingham Southern Jamar Neal '09 - DE - Carson Newman

I'm not saying he didn't run anyone off; in which case, good for him for getting guys off the team that did not want to play. But it is logistically impossible to run off 240 different players over 4 years. For that to occur, 60 brand new football players per year would have to randomly show up to play. I don't deny that he is tough, but you are claiming that running a tight ship is bad. Have you ever coached? Have you ever even played? You were probably the kid whose parents told him every day in high school that you should be the star QB and could play in the NFL, but some mean coach stopped those dreams. Go away Uncle Rico. You are wrong.

vigilant You said that he ran off 240 players over 4 years. That is false.

First, I have a hard time believing he ran off 60 players per year for four years. In order to do that, 90-100 players would have to come out each of those years, with over half being run off. That does not add up, especially since only 18 of the players signed that petition. If any players were actually run off or ripped on, it is in his full right to do so. Playing the game is not a right, and I can promise you that as long as their attitude was what it should have been, he would never unjustly target players for criticism. Now, if they were slacking, disrespectful, etc, then yes, they deserved to be hit on the helmet or yelled at. THAT IS FOOTBALL. What sad sad world do you live in where a coach cursing and getting mad at his team is unacceptable? Since you continue to bring up "facts," the fact that no one has quit at BGA since he has coached is applicable as well. Unlike you, I actually played for the man, so if 70-ish different players that I played with under him for two years didn't feel threatened, or feel that mean ole Marty was just too much too handle, the FACT is that he obviously isn't too bad. Just because you come in on the back end of an argument by being nice and saying "good luck" doesn't make your opinion unbiased, balanced, or fair. Your position is from one of a community that is, according to you, still whining about their former HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACH (Is that really a big enough issue to split a community?). Obviously, this opinion and stance on the issue is terribly misconstrued and illogical, so you have no place in providing analysis on the situation.

concessions, credence, separate Unless I missed something, teams are judged based on wins and loses, not by how many people participate. But hey, good luck winning the human pyramid contest. 100 players should build a pretty big one. Oh, and if your opinions represent the general consensus at Jeff Co, the problem is pretty obvious.

Learn how to spell "argument" And seeing as he brought my class as close to our goals as he possibly could, I am going to go ahead and assume the players that could not handle his coaching at Jefferson County are soft and spoiled (more so than kids from a Williamson County private school...which is pathetic). If pushing players to their full potential, starting the best players available no matter how unpopular the choice may be with parents (started a QB in '07 that had basically never played varsity over the Sr. incumbent which led to a 14-7 record the next two years compared to 3-17 the two years prior) and expecting them to fully commit to the team and his scheme is a sin, then yes, he is the Dark Lord. But for normal people that want to win, it was fun to be coached by him; be it in practice, film, or a game. And he is realllly funny. So there is your argument. And it didn't take any nerve to post something about a former coach that you have a childish grudge against. Grow up.

Running off Coach Smith shows the same lack of good intentions that firing Coach Moore showed. The people that made BGA great are all either retiring, being fired, or being pushed to the side. And if the administration were looking out for even a sliver of the students' interests, they would move down. Trying to keep up with the flashiness of BA and EHS shows the same white collar mentality that has infected that school throughout.

You issued a false statement, so I had to defend against such rudeness. I'm doing just fine at UTC majoring in English, but you keep trucking! I'm not playing college football; same as millions of other high school football players (you as well) who just weren't big or good enough to play at the next level. 2-8 Fr year, 1-9 So year, 6-4 Jr year, 8-3 Sr year. Cherrio and Chap are usually present in stereotypical English portrayls; don't know how you connected that with young age. I don't know of any reason why you would want me to describe my non-academic pursuits besides the fact you seem kinda obsessed with me (thanks ). And I dunno, if I could read minds I'd know why you are such a grumpy person. Again, this all leads to my question; what is your point about the DII title game being on a Thursday?

...it was a joke

Well I have to admit, you have added a little wit to your comments this time around. Congrats on taking that Intro to Writing class in community college since the last time we saw you. It's done you well. And KW has not once complained or whined about the loss. If anything, he has been 100% unbiased about MBA and has always given equal time to both the positives and negatives of the team as well as the school. Anyone involved with a DII school is sick of how the TSSAA has treated these schools over the past 10+ years, so that is an attitude you will find runs consistently on this part of the board. And oh dear, we have addressed this subject. I started in three games my sophomore year at NT, missed one to injury, and in the other six, I was the first LB and D-O lineman off the bench. My junior year, I started week zero at Guard and then missed the last nine games due to the same injury as previously mentioned. My Senior year I started the last three games at LB, missed one again due to that cute little broken back that I have had since Sophomore year, and then rolled in the entire game the other seven at O-D Line. I never made all-region anything, but I got to play for and with some of the best coaches and players in the state while I was at BGA, and always did what they asked of me (eh at least at LB, I sucked badly against Briarcrest on offense). And yes, I played with whoever it was that said that, but as I said before, he, as well as you, get to hide behind some bushleague name and say whatever you like. I decided to take some measure of responsibility for what I say on here, which I hope adds a little poignancy to my comments, as I loved being able to play for BGA and against the best competition and in some of the best environments in the state. On to whatever God forsaken point you are trying to make...The last game of the college and pro seasons are games between the two best teams. Well here in Tennessee, the two best teams hands down in the state are being boned by having to play on a Thursday night. We simply were discussing what the reasoning behind this is. No whining. No going over to the 6A board saying that Oakland and Riverdale suck. A few people who have ties to the one or more of the twelve teams that comprise the best conference in the state were simply curious as to why the TSSAA would essentially hide their best product. Seriously, get over this little fetish you have of having to show us the light. You seem like a sad little man without much going for you. I'm 19 and in college, and in the free time I have between parties and class, I get to jump on here for a bit and talk about something I am passionate about, all while getting a rise out of some exceptionally enlightened and educated boys like you. Cherrio chap and I look forward to your response xoxo <3 <3

I kinda did lol but outside of a few people that have picked BGA to win every game as well as a state title, a national championship, and a Super Bowl ring, I don't think anyone really did.

I just thought I'd throw this out there, but this is the second time you have dipped into the DII boards and seemed like an (insert whatever clever explitive you would like here). But it's really great to have you back here champ; can't wait to see what you have to contribute.