mat73557

Toughest game to call all season. Riverdale would seem to be the favorite but Blackman has improved vastly over the course of the season. Keys to win for Riverdale - pressure the Blackman QB and force the run....once Mathers is carrying the game on his back....tee off on him. Keys to win for Blackman - Get some screen game going...open the run for Mathers. Defensive backs have to cover the streak routes. Special teams need to be special....cant give Rdale the ball on their 40 every posession.

42-28 Blaze Final.......advantage Blackman. the onside kicks by Oakland = Nice

Blazeburning said: "The third td was the one that shouldn't have been. SM went for it on 4th and 1 (which they did with success several times), and he was stopped cold on the qb sneak. The qb didn't even make any progress to the line of scrimmage, but the line judge somehow saw him get almost a yard." I am a Blackman parent and was shooting photos of the game from the stands. SM made the 4th down. PHOTO LINK http://tinyurl.com/3zabsdo They are a well coached and physical team and I am sure they will do well. Good luck to them going forward.

Blackman wins big and ends the mountain streak. Blk 35 SM 13

Yes...congrats to Siegel on a hard fought game. also, Thanks for charging me an extra dollar at the gate.

Blackman better get to work. This game could have easily went the other way. Glad to see them get the W. Better keep I-Train healthy. I am glad we don't play Riverdale .....oh wait.....Dang it....

To me, it doesnt seem to matter what training is given to the refs on stalling. There is still a lot of inconsistency in the calls and non-calls alike. Some guys will call a stall after 10 seconds and some after nearly a full minute. Makes it hard on the wrestlers to know what is a good strategy and what is not. Part of the sport I guess.

The following a philosophy for recognizing and penalizing stalling. Stalling is the nemesis of wrestling. There is not another area in wrestling that creates as much controversy as stalling. The reason is that everyone has their own understanding of stalling. The official has to recognize stalling and make a call or not make a call utilizing his best judgment. Stalling makes wrestling boring and unfair. It is the responsibility of the athlete, coach and official to avoid the use of stalling tactics. This philosophy is mine and is consistent with the current Rules Book and Case Manual. It is a philosophy that has been developed after watching hours of wrestling, watching some of the top officials in the Nation and interpretations of the rules. It may or may not work for everyone but a written philosophy will create consistency and that is what the coaches and wrestlers expect. They may not agree with the call but if you call it consistent throughout a match or tournament, you will be regarded higher than being out there making calls up, doing nothing, or appear to be influencing the outcome of the match. PHILOSOPHY:  Be fair to the kids. Don’t worry about the coaches or fans.  Don’t let the coaches or fans call it first. Timing is everything!  When you think they are stalling, they probably are.  It is not the official’s job to make wrestlers wrestle. The official’s job is to warn or penalize when stalling is recognized.  Call stalling when recognized without hesitation at any time or period.  Stalling is often a no win situation. More officials get into trouble for not calling stalling than calling it.  Have the courage to call stalling.  There are not different standards for stalling for 103 pounds and 285.  Communicate to the wrestlers, verbally, when you call them.  Don’t confuse fleeing the mat with stalling, they are two different infractions. NEUTRAL POSITION:  Silently count legitimate shot attempts and keep them in your mind. Helps keep you in the match. If one wrestler has three or more legitimate shots to his opponent’s zero, you can figure out who is not making an effort.  Look for stalling in 1st period. No easier time to call it. DON’T MAKE UP A CALL. 2nd or 3rd period someone may be protecting a lead or trying to get the lead.  A legitimate shot implies risk, level change, penetration or jeopardy on the aggressive wrestler.  Watch a wrestler always taking action to the edge. Wrestlers should make an honest attempt to keep the action in the 10’ circle. Is he looking to score on the edge or have an easy bail out route?  Watch the hips when a wrestler is blocking or has head on shoulder, they’ll be out and back.  Look at ties and blocking with the arms or ties. Can be difficult to determine.  Catching a wrestler continuously sprawling can be stalling. Make the call in mid sprawl.  Hand fighting; determine who is trying to circle in.  Defensive counters. BOTH WRESTLERS ARE REQUIRED TO WRESTLE AGGRESIVELY AND WORK FOR A TAKEDOWN.  Warn both if needed—if neither is doing much.  Repeatedly causing a stalemate can be stalling.  Circling is not a move and neither is pushing. BOTTOM POSITION:  Hardest to call because bottom man can be overpowered.  He must work for reversal or escape. Watch for him to be hanging on or covering up. Look for bottom man to try to get hand control and hips coming off the mat.  If the top man gives him some space (perpendicular of off hips), is he trying to come up? The offensive wrestler coming off the hips creates a natural space for the bottom man to attempt to build a base.  Don’t let both wrestlers “fall asleep on you.† Repeatedly stands up with legs in. Be patient. May need to stalemate a time or two but then it is a stalling tactic. TOP POSITION:  Top man must work for the fall or cut opponent away.  Look for hip-to-hip or parallel riding (space). Working the fall often involves risk. Coming off the hips equates to taking some risk because it gives the defensive wrestler additional options.  Cross body and hanging on an ankle or arm. Stalemate first or second, warn or penalize after. Announce: “STALEMATE CAUSED BY TOP MAN.†This puts that wrestler on notice that he caused the stoppage. The stalemate is giving the top wrestler some benefit of doubt. If the cross body ride is applied and he can’t turn, he can move onto a different technique.  Top man must attempt to bring bottom man to the mat during standup; ensure top man is making honest attempts to bring to the mat. No time limit; it could be five seconds or 15 seconds.  Bottom man stands and top laces legs. This is stopping action because a potentially dangerous call will normally follow.  Is the top man applying a pinning hold/combination and trying to turn? Does the top man have a pinning hold? Chicken wing is a pinning hold but if he is hip to hip, he is not using it to turn-Look for stalling. Copyright © Wrestlingref.Com 2006-11

Shouldnt L21 and L22 be switched?

Love to read all the hype and I dont post much. Blaze 31 - Rebels - 14

Freshmen looked good from the first play. Lavergne had 12 on D for a whole series and no one even noticed! I think tonight will be more of the same. Blaze by 28.

Thanks Stork for letting us know. I was planning on taking my time getting up there tonight. Scratch that plan.

So I guess we aren't going to get to see this anytime soon... BUMP

Salter or Hamm...could one of you guys help me get to see this? I would love to show it to Tyler before the tournament this weekend. The link thats up does not work for some reason?

Looks like the file is HTML when you right click and save as...

Where can you find results of the 4 regional tournaments?

17 views and nothing.....

Where do most people go to share information on middle school and AAU team events? Obviously, there are very few posts here on the subject. Is there another forum where I might find the Sharpshooters posting or perhaps Tullahoma or Hendersonville?

So what happened? We were looking forward to getting our little guys some mat time.

I do not post often but find the info here to be great. I have younger wrestlers and am becoming more and more familiar with the sport so I am looking for opinions from those who have more "stick time" in the sport. I thought about this thread yesterday when I saw a certain wrestler get unsportsman calls in two matches for illegal slams. (this kid is about 14 I would say). He seems to be a strong enough wrestler to win without the unecessary roughness or unsportsman calls I was seeing him get. At his age, I must believe that his coach is responsible for the aggressive style because I noticed that many of his teammates wrestled similarly. So, when a kid like this slams his opponent and obviously knows that he shouldnt, is the right thing to do to ask the slammed wrestler to continue at that point? If he is hurt bad, no question, but if he is temporarily hurt (if that makes sense) should he feel compelled to continue because he is taking the high road? Is there a point where it is prudent for other coaches or wrestlers to teach a lesson to the kid whose coach has allowed him to become that type of wrestler? Thoughts?

I was there at the Middle school bouts and saw one coach/parent upset after a match. Looked like he was close to getting thrown out to me as well. However, the match was not so close that 2 points would have mattered. I thought the Jr. refs did a great job seeing as how they were not paid and are giving back to all of our kids. Was it perfect? Of course not. JMHO