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I believe you are incorrect. He placed 8th at 143 if I am not mistaken. Which, of course, I may be.

New Jersey is ahead of NY in terms of d I success. But NY wrestlers are tough, and it is one of the toughest states to win as only 1 qualifies from each section. 2nd best guy in state can (and often does, especially from D 9 on LI), miss the tourney.

I was unaware of all those results. My impression was that KJ was superior FS compared to folkstyle. We'll never know... one of TN's best either way. Are you sure Leen placed at Juniors?

KJ is a beast, but I don't think top 3. On his best day he would have placed AA, but not on an off day.

Sorry. Dunning is a tough kid and after a season or two with their schedules would be competitive. Those kids wrestle 30 or more matches a season at a level where Dunning gets 3-4 if he is lucky. I hope Dunning catches fire at the Sr Nationals, though.

Whit would get smoked. If he wrestled very, very well, he could keep it to a minor.

Borneman will be lucky not to get majored or worse. Mark my words. Last time they wrestled, Marable had been to only a handful of practcices and was in football shape. Borneman is not in his league. Period.

In looking at the D2 arnkings, I will guarantee that MUS does not place nearly as well as they are ranked.

This is largely directed at IrishDad, but is open to others' comments as well. Three of the officials on that list are excellent, consistent refs. Your comments are totally out of line. Kenny and the Markings are solid, and, as I said, consistent. There is no bias. UNLIKE your own home cooked refs, with their legendary, unparalelled favoritism and whom I have watched anabashedly favor Ryan, MBA, and the Simpsons in particular, like the time Spencer Manley pinned P Simpson in the state semis at Ryan, when Manley was a freshman, and J Hudgens stopped it for NON-EXISTENT blood. Simpson came back to win, if course, and every year there are calls like this in Ryan's own tournament. The Markings don't play favorites and are easy to discuss with. Kenny calls as consistent as they come as maintains excellent control of the mats. Your comments are off base, and you are being a sore loser. Get over it.

The sport of wrestling extends back far beyond 700 B.C. Drawings in the tombs of Beni Hasan and also in caves in Southern Russian predate the borth of Christ by at least 3000 years. Many of the moves captured in these drawings are still used today. Wrestling is also the ondest sport captured in literature, in the epic of Gilgamesh and also is one of the only 2 sports mentioned in the Old Testament. If you're a hs student, get to your library and learn something about man's greatest tradition!

Pardon me. My instruction to you should have been "read and comprehend my post; it is written in clear language." And please identify any implications I made about ethics. Do you know what ethics are?

"yeah, walkenvol is a P.O.S. because he has issue with a McCallie idol. How dare him question something that he feels strongly about. What a cad! Surely, his love for the sport can not contend with that of a coach, no way! Walkenvol, please turn in your singlet and headgear, and join the football guys." 1. What is POS? 2. Read my post, idiot. I made no personal attack, only an observation. Obviously walkenvol cares about wrestling, and I thanked him for that and his work.

Soms, I second your support wholeheartedly. Every time Coach Connell is bashed... If we could all be as lucky to be guided by GC. This is a man with not only honorable intentions and passion but a virtually unparalled knowledge of and love for our great sport, and a great track record of success. I hope the athlete in question from last year's team goes on to great success and a wonderful life. I will certainly follow his career with interest. But the father who continues to blame the coach, especially in the context of our sport's preaching personal responsibility, may be setting the worst example possible. I wonder what would have been possible if in Dec 03 or whenever a weight decision was made, all parties modeled an attitutde of, "Well, this isn't what we'd hoped for, but it's what we've got, so let's get cracking to make sure we do our best and win another championship at any weight." I intend no personal insult to any family, but by making your issues public on this forum you have presented them as fair topics for discussion. I support Coach Connell as he has certainly earned the benfit of the doubt and did not deserve the treatment he received, but my comments on this issue are impartial. In other words, EVEN IF the coach made an egregious error, what sealed the deal was, it seems to me, the reaction of the other parties. EVEN IF the decision was unjust, the response was not one of positive outlook and perseverance at all costs; it was one of blame and, ultimately, frustration and loss. That is the entire message wrestling teaches. Please continue to do all you do for our great sport, and thank you for helping our state's youth.

I never saw Sweeton wrestle much so I can't say. I do know that the list I compiled is very competitive, with wrestlers like Dunning and Cordell not making the list. Remember that each of those athletes won 3 state championships, a supreme feat.

Brewster is Tier 2 with Dunning and Cordell.