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Macnarry...............why doesn't anyone ever transfer to the Bobcats?

1RT, just for the record Coach Franks is an alum of Adamsville High School, class of 94. Sure some old die hard bobcats are rolling over knowing a former CARDINAL is calling the shots at MCHS!!! Wow.....maybe we are making progress in the county.

They situation with MCHS football isn't any different than other situations you are seeing across west TN in regards to coaches stepping away. The expectations of parents are way out of focus and expectations to the level which programs can compete consistently is largely exaggerated and unrealistic. McNairy County has little to offer as to the recruitment of great coaches and all facility improvements will have to come from private donations because of the tax situation in the county. I know there were some educational cuts last year and more are being discussed now the ability to look for outside help to fix the problem could be limited. MCHS needs to self examine and determine if there is someone "in house" that has the athletes respect and feel a sense of confidence in, has a proven record in motivating athletes and begin the rebuilding process. I know bringing up the idea of following the blueprint that Adamsville laid out with the hiring of Brandon Gray would ruffle the fur of Bobcat fans but if it produced the same results that decision would be praised in due time. Just a thought.

Well at least the conversation is started and maybe the truth behind all this can finally come out. As to address recruiting, having relatives that have been in both county schools athletic programs I can truly say that there isn't a better opportunity for us as a county to show that we have something very special here. The ability to put on such an event and have it be a positive for both schools doesn't come around often and when it does we should embrace that opportunity and use it to not only be examples to students but as how to live in some type of harmony. The only recruiting that should be done is for us to try to put on a show of unity....it was United Way night...and try to show people what a great place this could be to start a business or live. So if you identify me as a recruiter then I guess I am, just hope its on a larger scale than HIGH SCHOOL football. As for the bad officiating.....there were penalties against both teams, some correct and some incorrect but that's part of the game and you deal with it and move on. Seems the Adamsville staff handled that a little better. The biggest think to realize is that the officiating crew will be working this Friday.....Coach Hodge will be suspended. As for the little brother complex...usually the smaller school does have more to prove, just like the little brother. After 20 years of slaughter and being non-competitive I can understand why Adamsville is proud of what they have accomplished against big brother. After 20 yrs. one could expect 1 upset..fluke play or something. Two years in a row could be considered a "bump" in the road. When you get to 5 or 6 straight I'd say the tide has turned, so commend Coach Gray and his staff on doing a great job and being a positive reflection on the good things going on in McNairy County. Just hope that his lesson will go much further than the football field.

As with every year I was at the MCHS-Adamsville game and can't believe with all the fanfare that our new coach came in with that the incidences in this game have kept fans so quite. Is this truly what MCHS athletics has come too? A coach ejected and you get a standing ovation as you leave the field? You have a school board member pass the hat in the crowd as to help pay his fine??? Do they have an idea of the TSSAA slogan: Just do what's right??? Did they hear the announcements that the TSSAA has all member schools read before the game about sportsmanship??? As a resident who supports both schools with my tax dollars this was an embarrassment. The Coach's behavior definitely trickled down because you had a player also ejected. WOW.....surely we can do better than this. No one, after seeing this display should ever be critical of a parent for choosing to send their kid to another school. Just something to start a conversation!

Macnarry, thanks so much for clarifying that the MBA is a private organization that only recruits in the communities of Michie, Ramer, Bethel, and Selmer. And as a grandparent of a child that would like to participate in the league but was told it was only for children who would be attending Macnarry then I'd say that's not welcoming all kids. And if the MBA is using public school facilities to hold their games then I would say that is not only does that represent recruiting, the discrimination makes it illegal. And thank you for not recruiting in Adamsville. Now with that said......who are some leading candidates for your new football coach?

So Bobcat83 and Macnarry........... I know from reading your posts that this is all about the kids!!!! So if there are 3 good quarterbacks in McNairy County and say they go to Bethel, Ramer, and Selmer Middle, that only one should get the opportunity to experience starting at the high school level? And of course the same could apply at every position......so instead of having 44 really good football players from our area play on Friday night we should limit those opportunities to just 22? And as far as recruiting goes I think the youth programs at Adamsville welcome kids from the area and they don't discriminate because of where your from or your intentions of where you may attend high school. If it's suggested that someone is promising athletes anything would the basketball organization started by Coach Lott and Coach Forsythe not allow "All" kids to participate? Or do you make those kids choose at a much earlier age than 14 to decide where they may play basketball? You might take a look at that before you start throwing those recruiting rocks just toward the eastern part of the county!!!!!!!!!

Again Bobcat 83, is that a bad thing if you study the numbers? But I'd have to say, unless it's changed in the last couple of years, if you were a good student with supportive parents and not a trouble maker you probably get in. Don't think sports is that big of a factor in every case. But glad you seem to agree that all the coaches in McNairy/Adamsville controversy have mud on their face. It's not only the one's from the eastern part of that county.

Being someone who was in that county system and knows all about the MCHS/AHS rivalry let's be fair on both sides. Does Adamsville have the right to turn down out of county students, yes, but so does Michie, Ramer, Bethel, and MCHS. So if Mr. Martin is turning away out of county kids to hold down his enrollment because he feels the success of his athletic program will benefit his school, then no one should complain. Martin was coaching during the AA time at Adamsville and he understands what AA basketball is about. But as a former coach I know that TSSAA classification has never been about location. It's always about the numbers. Look at Hardin County to figure that one out, two hour bus trips for District games. I know that during some of the good times at MCHS they benefited from some really good out of county players. Think a Loving kid came from Chester, Poe was from Chester, I believe recently a good player named Walker transferred in there from Mississippi but got into trouble so he wasn't a big impact but they get them too. I believe Ramer benefits from the occasional kid that comes in from Hardeman county....ie...the Chappell kid. Baseball is the big sport at McNairy now and some of their best young talent is from Bolivar so why isn't someone complaining about that? So there is mud on everyone's face. Lott does the best job of recruiting and keeping it on the down low..........he has coached any woman that has children down there so he get's the inside track so his recruiting is built in. Jerry's always won but at what level? No state championships or even runner-ups so do they underachieve? He puts together good teams from a lot of talent. He has girls go to college but no big D-I signings so does he always get the most out of his talent? Most years there are 4-5 girls at McNairy, that no longer play that could start at Adamsville, why would it not be in those kids best interest to go there? The Bobcat's haven't had talent and the good team that was recognized above only finished 3rd in the district. That's what happens when Bolivar and Liberty are in your district. The Adamsville situation is not a lot different....but you can't say they recruit more than the Bobcats. I think the jr. leagues in Adamsville even combine efforts with Selmer to make things work but you really believe the MBA isn't about recruiting? Finally the Jr. High football jamboree is on the MCHS campus, along with the county basketball tournament that last for 3 days, and do you think those coaches don't talk to those kids? LOL. Unless things have changed the head coaches at McNairy hand out the championship plaques that couldn't be recruiting.......I believe the director or principals of the participating schools should do that. The bottom line is that there has been a shift in football talent and the ripple effects are felt across all programs. McNairy dominated the football series for years and now with Adamsville winning lately something illegal is going on. It's happened forever just wish both would agree that it does. Remember those without sin cast the first stone!!!!!!

No, if it were up to me I really think the private/public split is best!

ReitzFan: Just so you know that open enrollment is now a state law where all LEA's must provide the opportunity for transfer if requested by the student. The local LEA isn't responsible for transportation but if there is room and the school isn't at capacity then the LEA is wise in granting the request. Also the band at AHS is very strong so I would think that there are lots of reasons students in McNairy County might choose Adamsville. So I guess you could say in Tennessee it is a "right"!!!!

I think we all are proud it had no bearing on standings and it's hard to believe that one could REALLY think something like that would be done intentionally. Your coach North, coached the head coach from A'ville Kevin McClain, and he knows the clock keeper so none involved probably feel that it was an intentional mistake. Funny how the human element can play into things. Also saw coach North talking to the principal at A'ville after the game so he didn't seem that upset.

Funny how all this gets started over the scorekeeper. I know those refs and quite sure they missed a couple of calls that should have resulted in freethrows for both teams. Also I bet that those teams also missed freethrows during the game that could have changed the outcome. But like your coach said.....and that would be Coach North....who did coach at Adamsville....and has known the clock operator for years.....why do you not get back on defense. So seems he's the only one at TCA that's not a whiner.

Reitzfan, if you are part of the broadcast crew didn't you begin your whining before the games even started. Didn't you decide that the booth that was set up for you by the game officals seem inadaquate and you decided to move? You complained about the officiating then the clock keeper, and then the Adamsville players. Kinda funny that if it didn't go TCA's way it not whining. Just an observation. Hope you a good place to broadcast in Middleton.

As a longtime observer of this district this years tournament could be very entertaining. I do think the homecourt advantage of Middleton truly gives them the edge but don't think anyone can predict what or whom will be in the finals. Most on this thread predict that guard play will determine the winner but not in recent history has the class of guards from this district been this weak. If TCA's guard are considered to be the class of the district then the Memphis teams are going to the sub-state.

No one is blaming the kids. But the idea that every 4 yrs the talent level always stays the same is crazy. At MCHS we don't have a Corey Porter or Shannon Wyke to play football at the moment. No John Finlayson's gonna sign with UT. No Browder kids or Shelton kids to play quarterback. There or no Walkers playing basketball at the moment. No Rowdy Hardy's throwing the baseball, it's just a down time. All schools go through that. No one here is blaming kids it's just the reality that each school goes through cycles like this. So I guess since we don't recognize this and the talent always remains the same then coaches are the easy victims. Come on we got to be better than that!!!!

I find it funny that as great a coach as Mr. Browder is referred to being, is why no one will give him credit for understanding that the talent level was falling and that with his years of service and opportunities presented to him, that it was a great time for him to leave. The assumption that coaching is the major issue might have more merit if all the other programs were dominate. The once dominate boys basketball program hasn't performed at the same level as in the past, the baseball program isn't a dominate program so I would tend to think that the overall talent level isn't a strong as it has been in the past. If we support our kids and coaches and stop all of the Saturday morning quarterbacking then maybe our kids would have a better experience with better results.

Just to clear something up, the most hopeful people in McNairy County that Browder will return to MCHS is all the other coaches in McNairy Co. Coach Browder is in a teaching position in MS that pays more than teaching and coaching in TN. He presently recieves at least $25,000 from his TN retirement, so the money he would have to recieve to come back and coach the Bobcats would be at least a $70,000 dollar a year job. Since the McNairy County school system isn't about to pay a coach that amount to coach anything then the Bobcats need to keep striving to make improvements. Now if the school board does negotiate a contract with Mr.Browder I bet Coach Lott will be waiting in line next.

Talent and dedication goes hand in hand, that makes great players. At Adamsville the past couple of years those kids that starred there are some of the best that have ever played those positions there. Josh Carroll the best defensive player ever. A.J. Damron the best kick returner, and playmaker ever. Melton is one of the top quarterbacks all-time, so the idea that the talent at Adamsville is better is very true. There are other skill people that rank in the top 5 to ever play that position at AHS. The linemen as a group ranks as one of the best ever to play there. At MCHS you can't claim that Sutton is one of the 5 best backs to play there, no reciever is a top 5 candidate. Quarterback??? The Bobcats are just in a down cycle which all schools go through, the programs that are dead and never compete are those that change coaches every 3-4 yrs and MCHS doesn't want to begin to be a revolving door. So be patient and get thru this cycle and support your team.

One thing that helps make a good coach seem a "Great Coach" is knowing when to get out. Don't believe that if the Bobcats had state finals type of talent that Coach Browder would have left, his ego wouldn't have allowed anyone else to take that type talent. The biggest difference is what has been stated in previous posts. During the Browder years the best talent was always on the MCHS sideline, sometimes 2 deep. Now it's a new era and the talent pool isn't greater there than it is at Adamsville. Remember Coach Browder never scored a single touchdown during all his wins, he had good and some cases great players that did that for him.

Didn't get to go to the Aville - Westwood game but heard this morning that they were able to cause Aville to make over 20+ turnovers. If that's the case and they only won by 8 I think they will be hard pressed to beat a team like Scotts Hill if they can take care of the ball.

Bobcat, since this is a thread dealing with Single A basketball I will just make one comment. No one said that you didn't play in a tough district, but the idea that just because your in it does'nt mean you would dominate 15-A. As far as your inability to hit freethrows to win games I would say that's a reflection on the quality of your team. Kansas didn't apologize to Memphis for winning the NCAA tournament just because they couldn't hit FT's. You lost to a good Adamsville team that just out played you. Not saying our teams would win that AA district but they would compete better than you guys. Think you guys would be a much better single A team though.

As a longtime fan of high school sports especially basketball I can't remember when Scotts Hill has been better. With that being said there is something to be said with winning and know how to win. Having observed Hardin County and McNairy County basketball for over 25 years it seems that teams that are majority white always have to play at a higher level to attain respect. Hardin County faces this when they play in the AAA division and regions run into Memphis and the intimidation factor they face always play apart in their performance. Several times Adamsville has had this same situation where they have had majority white teams and playing for respect becomes a priority because they want to be recognized as a good basketball team not a good white team. However, when you begin to be thugish or unsportsman like or arrogant then you might be crossing the line. As someone who "doesn't have a dog in the fight" I witnessed after the game hand shakes where no minority player from Adamsville had their hand shook by a Scotts Hill player. This is what people are talking about when they say, thugish, or no class. When a team wins, that performance should say enough. Shake hands and congratulate each other on a well played game and be thankful that no one was injured. Remember sportsmanship and class is a reflection of not only the school but the community, I think both these schools are much to big to allow this situation to tarnish what has grown into a good rivalry. Now the McNairy fan that has posted has plenty of their own problems, its funny that their is no thread here that is devoted to your team. Scotts Hill and Adamsville have more wins against teams in your AA district than you do, so you need to fix the problems with your team before you make judgement on others. Remember if you were in District 15-A you would be no higher than a 4 seed, wait a minute, did you guys play Madison, the #6 seed, maybe that 4 seed in this district might be giving you too much credit. Anyway Bobcat, after next week spring football can start, and you hopes can begin for next season. Oh wait, Adamsville and The Hill might be gaining on you in football too.