DavidSchwetty

Wow...12 pages now of Dads embarrassing their sons

McCallie's five previous opponents have a combined 5 wins. . .reality sets in this week as EHS will win by 10+ . . .the Tornado will be fortunate to win 1 out of its next 5 games.

Unless you're a private school. Then success is based solely on recruiting right?

So if you pay high tuition it's buying a gold ball but if you pay low tuition aka "taxes" that's perfectly legit. I guess folks in the cities of Nashville or Memphis don't pay any city taxes. Davidson and Shelby county probably don't tax them either.

All I want to know is why open zoned publics are considered different when it comes to classification than Ensworth, MUS, MBA, FRA, CPA, Lipscomb, etc? They seem to have all of the same advantages as those privates but with lower tuition and arguably lower academic standards.

That seems to be even more advantageous for the open zone schools. Open enrollment with no tuition required vs. a private school that has to charge thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars in tuition for a student to attend? I get that only a percentage of an open zoned schools students are from out of zone so applying the 1.8x multiplier would probably be extreme, but if the goal is make a level playing field, shouldn't they be subject to a lesser multiplier of some sort? Maybe equivalent to the percentage of out of zone schools times 1.8x?

You're making an irrelevant argument. There are hundreds of private schools that are terrible at football as well but for some reason they have been separated from their public counterparts or forced to play in a higher classification because they will take any student who can qualify academically and pay the tuition. If open zone schools, Maryville, Alcoa, and the hundreds of others in TN included, allow students from outside their zone if to attend if they pay tuition, how is that any different than one of the hundreds of private schools that are forced to either play in a different division or in a higher classification?

How is this situation any different than a private school? Metro Nashville parents seek out private schools for better academics (in several cases extremely demanding academics), usually well before it would be known if the student is a great high school athlete. They pay tuition which is much higher than what is paid for an out of zone student to go to Maryville or Alcoa. There are very few if any recruited athletes. What's the difference between these two schools and DII-AA?

So are you implying that EHS football players have taken classes at Nashville State and received academic credit at EHS?

I'm curious as to where that $71.2 million figure came from. I didn't see it on their website and it's about 30% higher than I had heard. Either way, it's a pretty impressive number for a school with less than a decade of history. Of course, it's almost all thanks to HCA's most recent IPO and subsequent dividend recaps, but what over there hasn't been handed down from Tommy Frist? Regardless of who's endowment is bigger, EHS' has nothing to do with "more and more wealthy alumni from MBA and Harpeth Hall sending their children to EHS." That's why the football field is littered with the sons of former MBA greats, right? Wait, TIny Richardson's dad isn't an MBA alum? I guess it doesn't matter because he left EHS so he could qualify for college. But surely Corey Batey, Tavarres, Orleans, Corn, Rico, Ferby, Sam Cooper, Michael Sawyer, Jacob Carter, Heinz, Fentress, Sheffield and the McDermotts, surely their Dads are MBA alums? Not one? That's wierd because I thougth all the MBA alums were sending their kids to EHS. Isn't the EHS Board of Trust full of MBA alums? Nope.

Green Bay Packers cut Graham Harrell and Vince Young in order to keep former McCallie QB as a backup to Aaron Rogers

Strong performance by EHS, but depth could be an issue as the season goes on. A couple of bumps and bruises could put them in a tight spot. By my count that makes Trinity 4-4 against the Division II schools (2-0 vs BA, 2-3 vs MBA, 0-1 vs EHS). The way some of the Trinity fans talk, you would think that they're 10-0. They've hardly been dominant against the best of DII

Are there really only 40 players on the EHS roster? It's going to be tough for them to keep up with the pace at which Trinity runs its offense. I'd be a little bit worried about fatigue in general given that Trinity platoons personnel on each side of the ball.

Losing 4 games to 3 schools that have more or less sold their souls to make football the number one priority hardly makes this season a forgettable year. That being said nothing exceptional about this season either.

The percentage is significantly higher than 12.5% in the high school. I'll just leave it at that.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that 12.5% number includes the lower school. The number for just the high school would be substantially higher. If there are 423 students in the high school, 25% is probably a more accurate number being that the majority of the awards go to high school students. Any idea how many students receive full tuition?

It does not matter to the TSSAA but it certainly does matter in the court of public opinion. "Here's IMO how this sort of thing happens...a kid comes to MBA from a "non-traditional" background. He is on a sports team playing alongside the sons of wealthy people in Nashville, and the wealthy families get to know the kid. They like/admire him, and when they hear that money is tight for the player's family, they take matters into their own hands. Maybe it's noble and doing the right thing in the bigger scheme of things, but it's against the rules, and the school has failed if it has looked the other way while this has gone on under its nose." Those were my thoughts exactly. I would be interested to know how many of these instances involved students receiving extra aid from day 1 at MBA and how many had some sort of "hardship" and received aid from/at that point on. Is DII getting to the point that the schools need compliance staff to monitor these types of things?

My thought wasn't really directed at you. By everyone, I really meant Custer, but this is a good opporuntity to expand my thought. So were these recruited stud swimmers, golfers, wrestlers, etc or just students who happened to be on one of these teams and were not star contributors?

Quick question. It seems like everyone on here is assuming that some stud football players have been the recepients of this additional aid. Would people on here be so up in arms if the recipients turn out to be either A) members of the football team who rarely play or B)members of the cross country or swim teams? I have no knowledge of who the students were but the originial inicident involved a backup quarterback so I thought I would ask. Also, if I am correct, the school requires students to participate in 2 after school activities per year. Being that most students select some sport, is it safe to assume that the probability of a student on financial aid playing a sport and therefore being a student athlete is quite high? Again not necessarily football.

You're right. $1800 for 2 years of backup QB play doesn't really seem like a bargain.

I believe that would be 16 in a row for the Big Red. Funny thought, there are probably very few Freshman at Ryan who were alive the last time FRHS beat MBA.

Is that BIG MUS line too slow for the EHS defense?

You obviously have the school's best interest in mind when you continuously get on here and complain. If you have so many issues with MBA, I suggest you head over to 4001 Harding Road and have an adult conversation with someone about it. Hopefully they'll refund your donation while you're over there.

So really you're speculating this was the case. I'm not so sure a blog should be taken as a source of fact.

Really? Seems to be quite a lag between the firing of Rutledge and the hiring if McGugin Jan 10, 2007 - Rutledge Fired Feb 27, 2007 McGugin Hired - http://nashvillepost.com/news/2007/2/27/mba_goes_for_youth_at_head_football_coach