I was talking about competing with the real DB. Anyways the past is the past we are not talking about the games that were played ten years ago.... Im talking about who has a better team PRESENT day and it will be made very clear on friday night. Hayes is the best quarterback since Curt Phillips in the east tennessee. If you add him, Adams, Mcgue with Olsen & Webster burning down the slide lines you gotta pretty electric offense... As far as defense... Adams at safety, webster is a lock down corner for Gaitor, and Janeway, O Scott, big 75 and 58 pluggin the run.. I feel pretty good that a Topper team is looking this good.. Its been a while.. So go ahead and get your weight up lil John.