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Exactly!!!!! Just 1-2 matches go the other way

Not the 5 before that. But valid point

They won a 1 point dual in the region didn't they?

50 State Championships Sounds like they value the end goal more than pleasing others.

That's the assumption that these other teams have NOBODY on their team that moved in or didn't wrestle for their youth program. Doubtful 2 of those kids will be gone next year. We will see who can beat them.

Can you post a link? Where is it

I have a hard time believing you know anyone that is TRULY connected to that program. If so....say the name. Im sure these parents will let you know.

So the coaches created the talent(sure they get ocassional move ins, so do we)....the same talent that everyone say is the best. But if those coaches left, their magical powers would be useless and would forget how to coach. Got it Maybe Alan Jones is paying their coaches at Cleveland because they do a better than anyone else(we are trying), and have proven they can keep Cleveland winning. Ive been around Bosken before and he did not hide the fact he gets paid to run the club(he travels alot based off his social media) Hes also mentioned Knox and rest of staff fundraised north of 80k last year to give their kids the best opportunity. THEY did that. Its actually very impressive. Does Allan help? Duh. But i believe everyone would be shocked how much, from pretty much everyone I've talked too, he really gives. We are hustling and working to do the same. But when you are winning, its amazing that fundraising gets easier. We aren't afraid to work. Every Cleveland person thats been on here has never denied money helping. They have denied money being the reason. Cleveland has got it going on...... but we are coming for you haha @HumoristLogsdon is the GOAT

Serious question Dont say provides more opportunities Do you think Bosken pays people to move in? Does he pay for kids to travel everywhere? Is Bosken getting all of it? @Humorist you seemed connected to the program, I assume you have been in the room with Bosken/Knox. What is the money doing for Cleveland? Do they pay for kids to move in? Why are their kids good?

But they did it without money Kyle James? Kevin Ward? Jake Yost? John Lane? Cambell Lewis? You think money got those guys good? Weather or not a bunch of money would have may it easier is irrelevant..... bc they still did it.

Do you realize how good their kids club is right now? They have 2 8th graders that would win State Titles this year (one of them would have won as a 7th grader) If anyone is moving anywhere, its where they go. Hard pill to swallow for most, unless you are at these youth competitions and see.

You don't think the Cleveland kids would follow Bosken/Knox?

But you and many others are saying, without the money you wont have similar success. If we start a dominant run, is it because someone was giving us money? Soddy is restoring the history it once had.....did Steve Henry build his program off money? So yes, you are embarrassing our program. You should know better than anyone. Now, we are getting sponsorships to help us do certain things and give iur kids better opportunities.....what program doesn't do that?

Thats usually how it works. Them along with the army of pretty dang good coaches with them. The hate is real. Cant wait to hear this in a few years when we are winning Championships

Do you realize that Soddy IS doing what Cleveland has been doing? We are a few years out still, but when we get their I hope people realize that the only way you achieve success is working, not money. Money didn't get us going, a vision and the fact that we want to win. Stop embarrassing us.

This guy seems very bitter Bosken didn't coach his kid. First, our crew has gone to Boskens beginner tournaments. They get the kids 3-4 matches, parents dont have to travel, don't charge any entry for parents to come watch, and get everyone out in about 1 hour. His HS kids....ref, encourage, and yes, they coach them. What a brilliant way to build culture. Could it be his kid just wasn't very good, got beat alot, therefore, instead of doing what the best do in that situation, keep showing up, he has found a way to point fingers at someone else, instead of teaching his kid the lesson this sport is supposed to teach...... ACCOUNTABILITY Geez, stop making me defend Cleveland ha

Your son is an ANIMAL!!!!

I would hope so. Thats why the best programs, are the best.

Thats called a feeder program

This guy has no wrestling history, don't pay any attention to him. Literally started on Coacht to bash Heath Eslinger.

Unfortunately for them the culture of programs ALWAYS prevails in the end. Relationships win Father Ryan..... BACK TO BACK

Mr Grassman....these people arent fighting with anyone but the guy stirring everything up. Im in a club that i like to think rivals Cleveland, they are good people and work hard. Bosken or Knox arent on here bashing any program or putting their program above anyone elses, its a few people potentially trying to get people bashing Cleveland on purpose.

Moving on. State Dual Results A- Soddy Karate D2-Father Ryan(Simpson the master game planning coach) AAA-Cleveland Jones When do region substate wrap up?

Oh mercy, you sound like him now. I hate defending them but when you provide a quality product, people want to support you. Bosken did that. If you think he was getting paid when he came to Cleveland how ever long ago you are crazy. He put himself in a position where people loved wrestling, worked hard to build something, and his community will do what it takes to make sure it continues. I dont know what the money situation looks like, but hes obviously valuable to thay area now, so Im sure hes taken care of. Good for Cleveland. SD coming though!!!