CarlSpackler88

Claiming Coop and Hudson??? Come on man

16 minutes ago, FrecoFanatic said:

Lol, fair but I am justified right? My challenge win rate has to be over 90% @CarlSpackler88. Heck I even won the challenge when I accidentally hit that official with the brick at 14U duals a couple of years ago.

Absolutely justified my friend! And that ref deserved it!! HA!

While not the TSSAA, my son lost a match last year and the opposing coach came up to our coach, Sean Russell after the match and said "Man I'm sorry. You guys got robbed and he should have won that match". Don Elsea was watching and literally told us the call was wrong. Sometimes, it is exactly what it is. Score more points and it won't be left up to the refs. 

I've seen those Cleveland coaches in action. They fight hard for their guys. heck, Matt High throws more bricks in freestyle than any coach in the country. HA! 

25 minutes ago, FR615 said:

Pay attention to Bob. 

Or just call Shane I guess. 

2 minutes ago, BobCorker said:

Notice that Cordero's dad didn't deny the looming wrestle-off...  It's happening.  They are also picking up the number one recruit in Grundy County. 

I’d imagine Hudson won’t stay out in Iowa forever so him wrestling for Cleveland wouldn’t shock me. Just not sure Shane is gonna be this recruiting coordinator you’ve mentioned. Ha!!

Pulleys…they from Grundy?

2 hours ago, FR615 said:

Bob usually knows. That move would  be big. Losing Lucas hurts them but they are bringing in studs 

Bob is wrong. Shane Chittum isn't combining with Cleveland. LOL

1 hour ago, KidGloves said:

How’d you get that?

There seems to be a group on here that believes the Cleveland train keeps rolling if Bosken leaves. My opinion, Bosken would get replaced (like you mention) but it wouldn't be what it is today. Not sure how long it would take to fall off but it would be incredibly hard to sustain. Thats not a knock on Joey, nor is it a knock on whoever would replace Bosken. They obviously have a large team effort up there. Just think he's the guy that has had the biggest hand in developing that culture and making it what it is today. 

Saban leaves Alabama...are they gonna keep winning at the same level?

Fulmer got fired....we've been irrelevant for 12+ years. Hopefully that has changed.

I'm not saying they become irrelevant by the way if he leaves. I just don't think its as easy as some of you make it out to be and it all starts with Higher Calling. Now if they get TJ Sebolt to come in....well, it might get better. HA

57 minutes ago, KidGloves said:

I’m not sure why Cleveland wouldn’t want Josh and Joey to be replaceable anyway. I know you don’t want to lose the guys and no one blames you, but if they’re irreplaceable and, God Forbid, they wreck on the way home or something, then what happens? 

Everyone should be replaceable. 

 

You must not be a TN fan. 

2 minutes ago, FrecoFanatic said:

Fair question @ObserverW. We finished higher than South Dade and Buford at Knockout at 7 weight classes. That means it is reasonable to believe we COULD win seven matches against both of them. If we can win seven matches, we can possibly win the dual. Does not mean we would, but it does mean that we COULD beat at least two teams in the Fab 50.

HA....we were thinking the same thing @FrecoFanatic!!

A few years ago, Lake Gibson from FL was ranked 45th nationally and they won the Knockout Christmas Classic that year down in Orlando. This year, Cleveland dominated down there and won that same tournament. I'd imagine thats close to apples to apples and Cleveland is probably pretty worthy of being considered in the top 50. Is what it is......Its why we want to wrestle them

1 hour ago, speakingtoyou said:

I'm just saying anyone can be replaced. Lots of other coaches have the same abilities he's not the only one

Josh would get replaced but it would be extremely difficult to repeat his success. He is elite at what he does and works his butt off. Lots of coaches have potential, not all of them are willing to do what it takes. 

When Bosken decides to take a job somewhere else. 

1 minute ago, GrassmanCLEV said:

You could be a man and just say it instead of playing your childish games.

Are you being serious right now? There is no one more childish on this site than @TheTreyB

9 minutes ago, speakingtoyou said:

I don't have to defend myself to you guys. I saw the other post was getting a lot of mixed opinions so I thought I would get in on it. NOT A CLEVELAND FAN but a WRESTLING FAN. Go check out Big Mac wrestling on IG. He was a wrestler back a few years and was in a bad car wreck and couldn't wrestle anymore he started a yt channel. He goes to a lot of highschool wrestling and records them and then post bad ref calls. He has 2 million subs on yt and 3.5 on IG. Good guy 

Post the link to ole Big Mac. 

10 minutes ago, FR615 said:

Baylor has Bond, Titus and Max in the quarters.

Father Ryan has Tran, Calvin, and Gobbel

Mccallie has Carson Gentle 

LCA has Eversole 

CCS has Ryder Smith

Some tough matches coming up but a great showing by Tennessee kids so far. Good luck to these young men. 

Looks like rematch of Reep/Roark too in quarters!! 

1 hour ago, JSturgill said:

Not sure unless a qualifier got cleared at the last moment and they had already entered the  alternate! I can ask.

No worries. Its a moot point just curious really. Good luck to Hunter!! He looks tough and this next one should be a fun one to watch.

16 minutes ago, JSturgill said:

Villers and several other kids could have gotten in if they would have showed up been on weight, and utilized the standby list. 132 had a kid that busted weight and he would have been the first entered. It sucks it works that way.

That’s what Yost told us. That said, why did the bracket have 35 kids rather than the 34 we were told was max number of participants allowed? Seems inconsistent across the weights

37 minutes ago, KidGloves said:

Hard to beat someone like Cordero 4 times in the same season. 
 

here’s a question, who has more pressure on them now if the meet again in the finals following that match? Cordero? Or Workman? 

Jose. He's a returning state champion from Cleveland. Expectation is for him to win, so imo he has the pressure. 

3 hours ago, Whoweft said:

I mean, I am sure McCallie would prefer to win every weight class if it could.   There is something to be said about a program's progress and direction.  Given where McCallie was last year--and the number of those guys you call "average" that are 8th and 9th graders that finished on the podium this year-- McCallie is headed in the right direction. 

Even in this event--McCallie seemed to be taking some steps.  I have not looked at this stat before --but Seed to Place Differential (how the team performed relative to expected performance): 

McCallie +25 (the highest)

Baylor  +7 (#5 of 26)

Father Ryan -14 (last - #26 out of 26)

McCallie did a great job of wrestling to their seed or above it BUT those stats are extremely misleading imo and especially unfair to Father Ryan. As previously stated by @FargoStrut, Aiden Hare was seeded #1 at 113 for winning the west regional, but if it were truly seeded, he would have been the #5 probably and ended up taking 4th with a monster win over Kibelbeck in the quarters. He had a great tournament and based on that stat it looks like he fumbled. Kid has turned into a great wrestler and is going to contend for a title VERY soon. With the west being a bit weaker than the east, it puts Ryan at severe disadvantage when looking at that specific stat. 

1 minute ago, JSturgill said:

I was talking about Little Johnny, which you defended as just being excited!  I guarantee little Johnny will not have the guts to make that comment to Mr. Askew the next time they see each other at a tournament! If you won’t say it to the man’s face then why say it on here!  We both know why he won’t! Being excited is not an excuse to be an Idiot. You know that! I love that kid and his family, and I hope the best for them, and they do not deserve to be spoken of in that way! Especially when doing it in such a cowardly fashion!

Can’t disagree. It’s why I’ve made it crystal clear who I am on here. If I say it on here, I’ll say it straight to your face. When I’m wrong, I’m wrong. Should not have defended that statement by glossing over it with my blue glasses on
 

@littlejohnny you’re on your own here brother

2 hours ago, JSturgill said:

Congratulations on winning State! I know who both of you are!  Both of you are better men than you are portraying on this board. Trashing kids that made a mistake is ridiculous and  classless. Why not just enjoy the win, and leave the BS out of it? 

I haven’t trashed any kid from Baylor. In fact, I’ve been texting back and forth with one of your parents this morning, congratulating them on their son’s placement and looking forward to preps. I’m not naive enough to think that it couldn’t happen at McCallie or any school for that matter. Feel free to call or text me personally if you feel I’ve crossed a line. Just tried to say @littlejohnnywas excited about the win. He can defend himself for what he said rather than me trying to do it for him
 

Hunter was fantastic as always. Good luck to him next weekend 
 

4 hours ago, Ummmno said:

I’m gonna say what we’re all thinking but just don’t say.

 

We’ve all yelled “stalling” at some point. Or at wanted a ref to make a certain call.
 

But Father Ryan fans are just obnoxious with it. Yelling for it if the kid takes just a couple steps back. Immediately after their kid gets a takedown. Etc. The pretentiousness is on a new level. Maybe even more so than Cleveland.

 

maybe 

 

While they drive me crazy, I’m certain we do the same! Ha!! 
 

I just appreciate how much they care. If they didn’t, the environment wouldn’t be the same. 

44 minutes ago, FR615 said:

I know it’s been a while but learn to win with some class little Johnny.  I don’t remember Baylor or Ryan parents coming on here trashing their opponent after state ever in previous years

I don’t know @littlejohnny but I think I have an idea who he is. He’s just excited as we all are. It’s been 31 years since McCallie has held that trophy. 
 

Both Baylor and Ryan will be back. Just glad we could join the conversation again. Makes it more fun and raises the competition.

I enjoyed sitting next to you tonight@FargoStrut It was a blast! 
 

Mattox is one of the best kids I’ve ever seen wrestle….period. That whole group they’ve got coming in is awesome. 
 

For me though, I don’t care if their group is better or not. Let’s just make sure they wrestle each other and enjoy it while it lasts. That level of competition is what raises the bar for TN wrestling.