swamp

Ever heard of Austin East?

My deepest apologies for believing the TSSAA website. Ditto for me, that's where I got the score.

D'OH! I got ahead of myself. If Macon wins and Smith County and LA win, then there's this interesting 3-way tie for 4th: Macon 4-3, 7-3 York 4-3, 7-3 Portland 4-3, 4-6 Macon & York didn't play. Looks like this spot could be decided by the following teams: East Robertson, Westmoreland, Upperman (Macon played in a game that didn't count as region), and Oneida, Scott High, and Celina. I guess that beats a coin toss. [Edited by swamp on 10-26-02 5:56P]

That's what I get for trying to post these things way past bedtime. I don't know where the 4-3 came from, and I have Grundy 7-2 written on my sheet. Don't know why Meigs dropped GC, but it's a long way from Grundy to Harriman for a regular season (or any other) game.

North's region record is 3-2 swamp. That's what I get for trying to do this way past bedtime! I don't think I considered a phantom 4th win when calculating the possibilities; I think they're still right.

Assuming Macon wins their final game, they will finish 4-3, 7-3. If Smith County and LA win, then Smith will be 6-1, 9-1; LA will be 6-1, 7-3; Portland will be 4-3, 4-6; and York will be 4-3, 7-3. If that is correct, that will go way down the tiebreaker list! It could be that East Robertson, Westmoreland, Upperman, Oneida, Scott High, and Celina help decide this playoff spot. Tiebreakers are at http://www.tssaa.org/Handbook/football.pdf Any other combination eliminates Macon County. [Edited by swamp on 10-26-02 5:58P]

Standings: Marshall County 5-0, 8-1 plays Cheatham County Greenbrier 4-1, 6-3 plays Montgomery Central Cheatham County 3-2, 5-4 plays Marshall County Page 2-3, 2-6 plays Giles County Montgomery Central 2-3, 5-4 plays Greenbrier Sycamore 2-4, 4-5 plays Kenwood out of region Giles County 0-5, 2-7 plays Page Marshall County is 1st Greenbrier is 2nd Cheatham County is 3rd Page is 4th if they beat Giles County, or if Montgomery Central loses to Greenbrier. Montgomery Central is 4th if Page loses and Montgomery Central wins. 1 Marshall County hosts 4 Jackson S. Side/Lexington loser 2 McNairy Central hosts 3 Cheatham County 2 Greenbrier hosts 3 Jackson S. Side/Lexington winner 1 Crockett County hosts 4 Page/Montgomery Central

Macon is mathematically eliminated, the best I can tell. "They've cleaned house with everyone but the main 3" isn't good enough. The team with the 5-2 region record will get in ahead of the team with the 4-3 region record. It doesn't matter that LA and York play on the lighter side of the region, and that LA doesn't play Smith or Trousdale. I'll say it again, just in case I haven't made my point: Ain't split regions fun????

I'd say if Harriman decided to play 3A that would just confuse the dickens out of TSSAA HQ. Harriman would probably get thrown into 2-3A, although Kingston, Harriman and Scott might get combined with York, LA and Upperman(?) to form a brand new region.

I agree. Yep, I think that's the easiest mathematical possibility, but I have doubts as to it happening that way. That could really goof up the Owls plans for November 8th. All of a sudden they're going to the, um, interesting part of Chattanooga.

Howard 3-0, 4-3 is 1st (at Sequoyah) Grundy County 2-1, 6-3 is 2nd (McMinn Central) Walker Valley 2-2, 2-8 is 3rd (open date) McMinn Central 1-2, 1-8 is 4th (at Grundy) Sequoyah 0-3, 1-8 is out (Howard) I'm pretty sure that even if McMinn beats Grundy, that the standings stay the same due to overall record.

Everybody has until Monday to try and figure it all out! I ain't about to try to figure 4-3A or 8-3A!!! I might get brave and try 5-3A just for fun....

Okie-dokie. I guess the tie was broken (and all 3 spots decided) by overall record. From what Goosevol says, it might not happen that way this year. Talking about region 2-2A, he says that overall record will decide the higher spot, but then the next spot would be decided by going back to the top of the list, which is head-to-head. That doesn't make any sense, but he says he has confirmed that with TSSAA. It wouldn't apply in this case, though, because SC and LA don't play each other. Aren't you glad you voted for round robin next year?

It isn't that simple. I don't remember what happened with us and York last year. I do know we were both 5-2 and we beat them head to head, but they finshed ahead of us. There must have been. I think Livingston only had 2 losses, but I am not sure. But wasn't there a 3rd team involved? I didn't think it was LA. Best I remember the 3rd team threw it into overall record, and that's how Smith got dropped to 3rd. Maybe Portland was the third team. Nope, it was Trousdale, because it was Portland, Trousdale, York, and Smith, and York/Trousdale didn't play (?). LA didn't make the playoffs b/c they lost to York.

Before tonight, I would have called it a toss-up. As of right now, I think LA takes care of bidness.

It isn't that simple. I don't remember what happened with us and York last year. I do know we were both 5-2 and we beat them head to head, but they finshed ahead of us. But wasn't there a 3rd team involved?

ray stevens is rolling over in his grave. ummmmmmmm...he's not dead is he??? I'm pretty sure he's still with us.

...somehow I had a feeling responding would get us to this...

They're not an hour behind every other central time zone team, though. Do they start their games an hour later. Sometimes they don't post their scores before Monday... D'oh!

Oh, no, QueenBee's mentality is rubbing off on me... but I can't resist the urge to say... BOOGITY, BOOGITY!

Why is it that Memphis can't get their scores in???? I know they're waaaaaayyyyy out west, but it's not like they're in the Pacific time zone.... Has anybody seen a Frayser/Sheffield or Hillcrest/Kingsbury score?

I think the tiebreakers work the same as they would if everybody had played. I think SC got burned last year by a team they didn't play, when overall record broke the tie. I'd have to see what those results were again to try to remember how it worked last year. Twan, QueenBee and Fan all had their ideas, and so did I.

Portland should be ahead of York based on a head-to-head win.

Yeah, you're right; I didn't catch that. I did take that into consideration for the purpose of playoff possibilities, though.

If Portland wins, they are in no matter what York does. Heads-up Portland defeated York 24-0. If Portland losses and York wins, York is in. If LA wins and Portland loses, Portland is probably still in because they have beaten York and Macon County. If York and Portland both win, there will be a 4-way tie for 2nd, (and Smith County doesn't play Livingston). That should cause a lot of gray hairs in the Upper Cumberland and at TSSAA Headquarters. Ain't these split regions fun????