Cannon Co. @ Dekalb Co.

[cantstopthedefense]

Cannon County WINS! I can't believe no fans posted yet. 47-7

[wingman10]

Yes, I saw the score and got some tidbits on it. DeKlab has a long way to go. One of Warren Co's 2 wins were against DeKalb. I agree that both teams lost good coaches. However, Coach Barger is a good one at Cannon Co and can win some games for the Lions.

[ftballmam]

Yes, Cannon County got lucky.

 

DeKalb County is having a rough season.

They have 4 new coaches who took the program over less that 3 weeks before their first game!

 

Not one of them have ever coached High School Football.

 

They had a lot to deal with in taking over this team as well. From what I understand, the team was already down and out over the previous coach and the CRAP he pulled. Coach Anthony Fuller really took these boys down before he left for Cumberland County, I believe. He walked out on them less that 3 weeks before the season started.

 

Not to mention this team is up against some big schools with no support from the administration or public... they've never had community or admin support.

With only 5 Sr.s, the starting line up consists mainly of sophomores with a few jrs and srs. They are a very young team with inexperienced coaches.

 

This team is struggeling...

[ftballmam]

CANNON COUNTY WINS BIG. WONDER IF THE POWERS THAT BE IN DEKALB COUNTY ARE REALIZING THAT THEY LET TWO GOOD COACHES GO OVER THE OFFSEASON BECAUSE THEY WERE TIRED OF GETTING THE SHAFT. HATS OFF FOR THE DEKALB BOYS FOR STICKING IT OUT AND PLAYING EVEN AFTER EVERYONE AROUND THERE TOOK YOUR HEAD COACH AND A GOOD ASST AWY BECAUSE OF POLITICS.

 

 

Aw c'mon... DeKalb County didn't let anyone go.. they walked out! They quit!

They picked up their toys and went to play someone else.

The "good asst" slithered out from under the door and wasn't even present at any summer work outs!

That "good coach" lied and walked out as well. How many times did his story change??? At least 3!

The only thing those two "coaches" did was cheat the kids.

 

Those boys will rebound, they learned their lesson the hard way about trusting a coach. It's a really sad, sad story but any one of those boys will tell you, their trust was broken and they learned a hard lesson.

 

Yes, indeed, those "good coaches" walked out on those boys and more!

They've done it before and they'll continue to do it again.

 

Believe me, we KNOW what we "lost" ..... not much!

[originalSC3]

Congrats to the Lions on a big win. I never expected it to be that bad of a blowout.

[southernpride]

Yes, Cannon County got lucky.

 

DeKalb County is having a rough season.

They have 4 new coaches who took the program over less that 3 weeks before their first game!

 

Not one of them have ever coached High School Football.

 

They had a lot to deal with in taking over this team as well. From what I understand, the team was already down and out over the previous coach and the CRAP he pulled. Coach Anthony Fuller really took these boys down before he left for Cumberland County, I believe. He walked out on them less that 3 weeks before the season started.

 

Not to mention this team is up against some big schools with no support from the administration or public... they've never had community or admin support.

With only 5 Sr.s, the starting line up consists mainly of sophomores with a few jrs and srs. They are a very young team with inexperienced coaches.

 

This team is struggeling...

 

What none of you know is that these new coaches are in WAY OVER THEIR HEADS! They have no clue as to how to coach at the high school level! Another thing you don't know is that a very good coach contacted the school principal one week before the season started and offered to take over the program. He is now in another state with a 5-0 record and this team will not win a game. Not only that, this program will be down for years to come. I have coached football all my life and this is the darkest point in Dekalb County Football History!

 

Here is what MUST be done starting the week after the end of the season:

 

1. The Principal should put together a committee of five well respected members of the community to begin a two month search for a new head football coach.

2. The committee should include at least one person who knows something about coaching football, one parent of a rising junior or senior, a teacher, a school board member, and the principal and A.D.

3. The new head coach must be given a suppliment of at least $5000. No one will come here for less that is worth a darn!

4. The new head coach should be promised at least two coaching slots for him to bring in assistant coaches. Stop bringing in so many volunteers unless they know what the heck they are doing!

 

We need someone in place on the first day of Spring! Someone who has head coaching experience and knows how to rebuild a football team. Someone who can go out and work the halls and get kids in uniform.

 

I doubt I will go to another game this year!

[ftballmam]

Yes, I do know these guys are in way over thier heads.

Yes, I do know all about this new coaching staff, from personal experience.

 

I don't care that a "great" coach contacted the school one week before, Coach Trapp had already been hired at that point.

 

I'm glad you have coached and I'm glad you are so knowledgable but a few words to you dear friend. This program was in the crapper long before Fuller came along and he didn't help it one bit. We had 16 Srs., all tallented, all strong, all with some level of ability and we still barely pulled 3 wins and had one of the worse seasons ever. Fuller made no contributions to that but he did play with his kids on the side lines at the jv games!

Cantrell had been there to long and had lost his effectiveness as a coach. He coached one kid and now that kid isn't even attempting to play in college. Is Cantrell a nice man? YES! Is he a decent teacher? Most of the time, but he's no football coach!

Farley was a joke, he also coached one kid (one player).

Vance was a decent coach but he made some mistakes or was framed, who will ever know the truth about that.

And then comes the Fuller/Harrison team who couldn't maintain or control their compulsions.

It was time for a change here and if Fuller was any kind of real man he would have stayed and stuck it ou and kept his promises to these boys! But he (and his buddy) walked out and he walked out on a lot more that football.

 

Now, I say give these guys a shot. yes, they make stupid mistakes but they will learn just as anyone has too.

 

If you are such a part time fan that just because they are having a bad year, just because the coaches are learning and just because, then we don't need your $6. We've been having bad years for 35 years!!

You SHOULD stay home or maybe go watch Gordonsville, Cannon or whomever you favor.

This sport is about the boys who wear the uniform.

They need our support! They need our butts in the stands, supporting them.

Edited September 26, 2005 by ftballmam

[ftballmam]

What do you think is going to happen this week with PEARL CONE?

 

Any predictions?

[cwhscheer07]

its ok dekalb keep ur heads up and work harder. season isnt over yet. congrates cannon co. on the win. have a great rest of the season- go cw!

[southernpride]

Yes, I do know these guys are in way over thier heads.

Yes, I do know all about this new coaching staff, from personal experience.

 

I don't care that a "great" coach contacted the school one week before, Coach Trapp had already been hired at that point.

 

I'm glad you have coached and I'm glad you are so knowledgable but a few words to you dear friend. This program was in the crapper long before Fuller came along and he didn't help it one bit. We had 16 Srs., all tallented, all strong, all with some level of ability and we still barely pulled 3 wins and had one of the worse seasons ever. Fuller made no contributions to that but he did play with his kids on the side lines at the jv games!

Cantrell had been there to long and had lost his effectiveness as a coach. He coached one kid and now that kid isn't even attempting to play in college. Is Cantrell a nice man? YES! Is he a decent teacher? Most of the time, but he's no football coach!

Farley was a joke, he also coached one kid (one player).

Vance was a decent coach but he made some mistakes or was framed, who will ever know the truth about that.

And then comes the Fuller/Harrison team who couldn't maintain or control their compulsions.

It was time for a change here and if Fuller was any kind of real man he would have stayed and stuck it ou and kept his promises to these boys! But he (and his buddy) walked out and he walked out on a lot more that football.

 

Now, I say give these guys a shot. yes, they make stupid mistakes but they will learn just as anyone has too.

 

If you are such a part time fan that just because they are having a bad year, just because the coaches are learning and just because, then we don't need your $6. We've been having bad years for 35 years!!

You SHOULD stay home or maybe go watch Gordonsville, Cannon or whomever you favor.

This sport is about the boys who wear the uniform.

They need our support! They need our butts in the stands, supporting them.

 

Where do I start? First of all, they will have to open up the search for a new coach because of TSSAA regulations. Neither of these men are certified to teach and neither have coached HS football for five years in the state, therefore, neither will be back next year unless it is serving as an non-faculty assistant coach.

 

Second, I am a retirec Metro coach and I live here because this is my wife's hometown. I chose to support the Tigers because of her but I can't sit in the stands and watch these coaches. It is just too painful! I will give money to a program when they make up their mind to do what is right by these kids. Farley and Cantrell were terrible football coaches. Farley may have been good at one time, but he had long since lost the ability to coach at this level but at least he knew how to conduct practice. Cantrell is a nice guy (as you said) but he did not know how to manage a staff or run a program. He too may have been a good coach at one time but the game had passed him by. Fuller was promised something that he did not receive, he left in frustration and there is no doubt it hurt the program. BUT it all goes back to the central office. When they decide they want to really do something positive for football, they will hire a professional high schoool football coach and allow him to bring in at least one or two good assistant coaches. They will spend some money on Tiger Stadium which is in need of sandblasting, painting, and a lot of repair! The condition of the field is not good and the locker rooms need some work too.

 

Third, the coach in question contacted the school because the job was posted on the INTERNET and he spoke to the principal and the superintendent and was willing to come and bring two retired assistant coaches from Metro with a combined 65 years of coaching experience between them. Instead, he took a job in another state at a school that had not won more than 3 games in as many years and is now one of 5 undefeated teams in the state. He was willing to take the job but the school board drug their feet. How do I know? Because I called him and asked him to apply for the position! With all the success he has had I fear he will stay in that state and not return to Tennessee. But we can find a good coach if we start the process as soon as the season is over and do it right!

 

This season is over and many boys are going to quit this program and many will never come back! Coaching high school football isn't anything like coaching PEE WEE football. Fundamentals are the same but the speed and skill level at high school changes the way you approach the game and how you conduct practice. Scouting teams is very different and how you approach defense is too. We need change and it will come at the end of this season. These men are just caretakers and they know it. By rule, they will be out at the end of November unless no other certified teacher steps up to ask for the job.

 

Its too bad for the seniors. Maybe they wouldn't have had a successful season anyway but we will never know.

Edited September 27, 2005 by caesar

[ftballmam]

Actually they are both certified teachers.

Trap was granted a waiver (by the tn state board) to teach a subject (math) he was not certified in because he took some advanced math courses in college and the school is in dier need of math teachers. There were 2 other teachers waivered to teach in subjects they were not "certified" in due to a shortage.

Webb is a certified teacher as well.

The other 2 are not (alexander / young) but could be great assets to the program.

 

You know we could go back in time and look at the opportunity this program has had and blown. They had a good asst. coach at one time that could have taken the program by the ----- and ran with it. He was already making a huge difference and worked with Cantrell. But he picked on the wrong kid and made the wrong mamma mad and he was "done away with".

They had another chance to get an outstanding coach that is now at watertown, but they blew that one as well over a few hundred $$$ they were not willing to pay and took Cantrell back instead.

Point is, you are very correct in stating the admin.s, need to get behind the program and throw some $$ at it and some attention. Attend some ball games... show someone you are as willing to support football as you are basketball.

 

You should conitnue to come out and support the TIGERS!

The boys NEED you!

 

On my pro's and con's list are many things, many reasons "why". I try to support the coaches in question because they did step up and accept a program that was in huge financial disarray, promises unkept, players done wrong, admin on thier backs from day one, a team that gets no respect from other teachers or community, and a team that had been let down and done wrong. (can you tell the boys are my #1 thing?)

They must learn. They don't know these boys and these boys aren't going to give trust over easily again. I could go on and on about what the previous coach did but he's gone and that's the only fact that matters. He QUIT. He says that $2000 was promised but nothing was every in writing, no one knew about it until he and his buddy started looking elsewhere for a job and if you know the situation you know why his buddy started looking elsewhere. There's a very long personal story there. Anyway, even other teachers in that school will tell you they were witness to the fact he was told he wasn't up for that money because that all takes place very early in the year for the following year. I guess you already know that since you are or were a teacher. All I can tell you is he's a good bull crapper. He hurt this program and I'm not sure if you had Phil himself walk in he could get this program up and running as it should be.

 

I'm going to give these guys a chance and hope for the best. Everyone had to start somewhere... even Phil.