size does appear to matter

[krp]

It seems enrollment does matter. Of the 4 left in 1A 3 came down in classification and barely made 1A enrollment the 4th Jo Byrns has almost 300 (293) so they are large also. Hampton 393. TC 366. Union City 391. There goes the arguement size doesn't matter. It does!

Edited November 19, 2005 by krp

[reddevil44]

It seems enrollment does matter. Of the 4 left in 1A 3 came down in classification and barely made 1A enrollment the 4th Jo Byrns has almost 300 (293) so they are large also. Hampton 393. TC 366. Union City 391. There goes the arguement size doesn't matter. It does!

(293) Large compared to whom?

[n2music]

(293) Large compared to whom?

I disagree with this argument and I can tell you why. First of all at Hampton if a kid wants to play he is given that chance so everyone you see on the side line is there because they want to play, not because they are the best athlets that the school has to offer. Yet all three teams that we have played in th palyoffs had many more players dressed out than we did. Sunbright, Harriman and yes even Coalfield.

Edited November 19, 2005 by n2music

[dbras]

I disagree with this argument and I can tell you why. First of all at Hampton if a kid wants to play he is given that chance so everyone you see on the side line is there because they want to play, not because they are the best athlets that the school has to offer. Yet all three teams that we have played in th palyoffs had many more players dressed out than we did. Sunbright, Harriman and yes even Coalfield.

 

 

Yea, I bet Trousdale has the least amount of players than any left. Count'em.

 

Yea, I bet Trousdale has the least amount of players than any left. Count'em.

 

 

The only team we have played so far with less players is Temple. Size DOESN"T matter. PERIOD. Quality and Coaching is everything. PERIOD.

[hamptonbigdogs]

Hampton has about 30 players on the team.

[dbras]

Hampton has about 30 players on the team.

 

 

Trousdale has about 26 dressing. KRP is looking for an excuse as to why South Pitt got beat thats all.

[Willy41360]

It seems enrollment does matter. Of the 4 left in 1A 3 came down in classification and barely made 1A enrollment the 4th Jo Byrns has almost 300 (293) so they are large also. Hampton 393. TC 366. Union City 391. There goes the arguement size doesn't matter. It does!

 

The only ones that will deny this factor is the bigger class 1A schools. It is only common sense that a school with 350 or so students will have a lot more depth in their program. Sure they can dress out a smaller team but that doesn't change the facts. The TSSAA should have left the enrollment numbers where they were, by raising them they only replaced the private schools with another dominating factor, larger schools. There is no way that any school with less than 200 students can compete year after year on the state level with these bigger schools. Sure you will have the occasional outstanding team that will be the exception that will go to state.

 

When you have a school that has that many students, although they may field smaller numbers, they field a team with more depth, therefore they have fewer players that play both sides of the ball and that means less of a fatigue factor.

 

Sure coaching has some to do with it, but bigger schools mean more money to pay those better coaches with and give them the tools they need to be winners. A good coach at a smaller school is easily lured away because they often get frustrated trying to compete or plain economics, they need more money for their family.

Edited November 19, 2005 by Willy41360

[dbras]

The only ones that will deny this factor is the bigger class 1A schools. It is only common sense that a school with 350 or so students will have a lot more depth in their program. Sure they can dress out a smaller team but that doesn't change the facts. The TSSAA should have left the enrollment numbers where they were, by raising them they only replaced the private schools with another dominating factor, larger schools. There is no way that any school with less than 200 students can compete year after year on the state level with these bigger schools. Sure you will have the occasional outstanding team that will be the exception that will go to state.

 

When you have a school that has that many students, although they may field smaller numbers, they field a team with more depth, therefore they have fewer players that play both sides of the ball and that means less of a fatigue factor.

 

Sure coaching has some to do with it, but bigger schools mean more money to pay those better coaches with and give them the tools they need to be winners. A good coach at a smaller school is easily lured away because they often get frustrated trying to compete or plain economics, they need more money for their family.

 

 

waaaaa waaaa waaaa Do you need a tissue. Trousdale played 3a ball for 4 yrs and competed very well against those "bigger" schools, I think Portland had about 900 students, and 80 players, you didn't hear the Trousdale guys on here crying about it. They went out and let their playing do the talking. When they got beat they didn't get on here and say "well we should've lost, they have 900 students to pick from". Some of you guys look for any excuse to lose.

[Willy41360]

waaaaa waaaa waaaa Do you need a tissue. Trousdale played 3a ball for 4 yrs and competed very well against those "bigger" schools, I think Portland had about 900 students, and 80 players, you didn't hear the Trousdale guys on here crying about it. They went out and let their playing do the talking. When they got beat they didn't get on here and say "well we should've lost, they have 900 students to pick from". Some of you guys look for any excuse to lose.

 

With your level of mentality and the class your coach has displayed I can fully understand an attitude like yours. By the way, don't you all have enough to do trying to make sure you can hide from the privates? Trousdale has two questions they will never be able to justify an answer to....... 1. Why they dropped from 3A to 1A? 2. Why they showed so little respect in beating a team like RBS 91-0? I'm sure you have your own version of each answer, you know the one that is like trying to sell a fridge to an eskimo. Your denial is only preceded by your arrogance.

[krp]

Trousdale has about 26 dressing. KRP is looking for an excuse as to why South Pitt got beat thats all.

I haven't said anything about the size of the team it's the amount one has to chose from. It takes a fool that can't see if you were going to pick an army you would do better if you had 2000 to pick from than 1000. Some schools have less than 200 others near 400. The 400 has alot more choices than the 200. Why do you think they have classifications if they didn't I gurantee the ones saying this would be hollering if they had to play an enrollment of 800 so why can't the 200 fuss about the 400. How many dressed out has nothing to do with it. Riverdale could dress out their top 20 and tear yall and the rest of the 1A up. Because they had 1200 to pick those 20 from. This just makes sense. Surely they teach enough math in your school for you to grasp this.

[dbras]

With your level of mentality and the class your coach has displayed I can fully understand an attitude like yours. By the way, don't you all have enough to do trying to make sure you can hide from the privates? Trousdale has two questions they will never be able to justify an answer to....... 1. Why they dropped from 3A to 1A? 2. Why they showed so little respect in beating a team like RBS 91-0? I'm sure you have your own version of each answer, you know the one that is like trying to sell a fridge to an eskimo. Your denial is only preceded by your arrogance.

 

We dropped to 1a to see how many crybabies were there, evidently there's a bunch. They split up the 3a region we were in(mostly local teams), why would we stay and have to drive 75-100 miles to play an away game? Why doesn't your team travel to the other side of the state every other Friday night. Open your eyes, fool. We DONT RUN from anyone, we DO RUN over them though. I'm 99% sure we asked THE ALMIGHT RIVERDALE for a game in 97-98, but they wouldn't schedule us, as for the reason, well you'd have to ask coach Rankin for that answer. We offered they refused. Oh yea you better check our records vs the privates, last night we beat a private school, and we are 15-2 against them all time. We played the privates every yr in the playoffs and loved it. The guys who say we ran, well they never got to play them privates cuz they couldn't get that far in the playoffs.

[Willy41360]

We dropped to 1a to see how many crybabies were there, evidently there's a bunch. They split up the 3a region we were in(mostly local teams), why would we stay and have to drive 75-100 miles to play an away game? Why doesn't your team travel to the other side of the state every other Friday night. Open your eyes, fool. We DONT RUN from anyone, we DO RUN over them though. I'm 99% sure we asked THE ALMIGHT RIVERDALE for a game in 97-98, but they wouldn't schedule us, as for the reason, well you'd have to ask coach Rankin for that answer. We offered they refused. Oh yea you better check our records vs the privates, last night we beat a private school, and we are 15-2 against them all time. We played the privates every yr in the playoffs and loved it. The guys who say we ran, well they never got to play them privates cuz they couldn't get that far in the playoffs.

 

As I said....... you would try to sell a fridge to an eskimo. All the whining your coach did to get the biggest multiplier in the nation imposed on private schools and you want to call me a cry baby?........That is quite hilarious. As for the drop down, why not go to 2A..... Wait, I'll answer that for ya....... Alcoa to name one........ and oh yeah...... those privates your coach lead the way in removing from 2A. Your pitiful argument falls apart at every thread. It is so easy to predict and debunk your pitiful excuses I feel like I am having a battle of wits with an unarmed person.