Three #1's go down in 6A!!!

[cowabungadude]

Looking at the posted scores, I see that Sevier Co., Arlington and Germantown all lost home games as the #1 seed in their Quad. The other, Blackman only won by 8. Does this mean that the playoff seeding formula stinks or that we have depth and parity in 6A football statewide?

I'll take the former. I see lots of problems with the district setups in regards to equality for playoff seeding.

[randymc]

Looking at the posted scores, I see that Sevier Co., Arlington and Germantown all lost home games as the #1 seed in their Quad. The other, Blackman only won by 8. Does this mean that the playoff seeding formula stinks or that we have depth and parity in 6A football statewide?

I'll take the former. I see lots of problems with the district setups in regards to equality for playoff seeding.

It's the system, in most cases #1s played a wilcard team, and with the seeding criteria, WildCard teams went behind everyone else, so the seedings are all out of whack. Many of the Wildcard teams were better than 2 or 3 teams in their Quad but seeded last.

[cowabungadude]

Randymc,

I do agree that the system can produce some strong wildcard teams. If you look at what district's wildcard 1st round winners are from in relation to where #1 seed losers came from, it is really not surprising. I mean thats a home game for somebody that most likely didn't deserve it!

How many other teams were on the verge of attaining a WC bid, but didn't make the cut?

[davidlimbaugh]

Looking at the posted scores, I see that Sevier Co., Arlington and Germantown all lost home games as the #1 seed in their Quad. The other, Blackman only won by 8. Does this mean that the playoff seeding formula stinks or that we have depth and parity in 6A football statewide?

I'll take the former. I see lots of problems with the district setups in regards to equality for playoff seeding.

 

Doing some math with a little system to try to make it more fair.

 

I had #8 Independence (6-4) getting 933 points.

 

Siegel 15-14 (6A) (5-5) 105 25 10

Oakland 9-27 (6A) (8-2) 0 40 16

Brentwood 21-24 (6A) (8-2) 0 40 16

MBA 23-20 (D2) (6-4) 106 30 12

Centennial 21-0 (5A) (1-9) 81 5 0

Hillsboro 29-25 (5A) (3-7) 83 15 0

Columbia 31-28 (5A) (9-1) 89 45 0

Franklin 0-21 (6A) (8-2) 0 40 16

LaVergne 38-22 (6A) (3-7) 103 15 6

Ravenwood 6-19 (6A) (5-5) 0 25 10

567 280 86 933

 

#1 Arlington (10-0)

Arlington (10-0)

Memphis Overton 48-14 (5A) (1-9) 81 5 0

Frayser 56-20 (4A) (3-7) 63 15 0

Raleigh Egypt 50-23 (5A) (1-9) 81 5 0

Collierville 41-38 (6A) (3-7) 103 15 6

Bartlett 24-12 (5A) (4-6) 84 20 0

Westwood 41-0 (2A) (3-7) 23 15 0

Bolton 10-6 (6A) (4-6) 104 20 8

Cordova 22-6 (6A) (6-4) 106 30 12

Craigmont 19-14 (5A) (7-3) 87 35 0

Millington 10-7 (6A) (5-5) 105 25 10

837 185 36 1058

 

 

In Pod 4 I would have had it

 

1) Germantown (9-1) 1086

2) White Station (8-2) 1066

3) Arlington (10-0) 1058

4) Wooddale (8-2) 983

5) Whitehaven (8-2) 964

6) Cordova (6-4) 914

7) Millington (5-5) 855

8) Brighton (8-2) 707 - gets in over Kirby because they won their district

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8) Kirby (5-5) 781

 

So #1 Germantown losing to a #5 Whitehaven 28-7 may have been Germantown playing a Brighton team that lost 49-21 to a Kirby team that may not even make the playoffs in this system.

 

And #1 Sevier Co (10-0) lost a close one to Bearden (8-2), 34-35

 

In Pod 1, 6AAA I had seeding of

 

1) Maryville (9-1) ... 1260

2) Farragut (8-2) ... 1141

3) Sevier Co (10-0) ... 1120

4) McMinn Co (8-2) ... 1101

5) Ooltewah (9-1) ... 1054

6) Bearden (8-2) .... 1023

7) Oak Ridge (7-3) ... 882

8) Dobyns Bennett (5-5) ... 791

 

So it would be a #6 (8-2) beating a #3 (10-0)

[randymc]

So did you just run the numbers on the playoff teams, or all teams? I would think Smyrna would have gotten in under this formula.

[cowabungadude]

DL's system has got my vote till he's dead(Rico's Roughnecks ref.) or something better comes along

 

I always like good math and lots of statistics to show a point!

[davidlimbaugh]

So did you just run the numbers on the playoff teams, or all teams? I would think Smyrna would have gotten in under this formula.

 

I am kind of doing a pod as I go - haven't done Pod 3 yet except for Independence.

 

I am using a very low-tech system.

 

I am using the results from Coach T's schedule page (easier to navigate than TSSAA's)

 

Example is Independence: http://www.coacht.com/tennessee/inside/schedule.cfm?schoolid=256&sportid=1&seasonid=84

 

I am using TSSAA's regional standings page: http://www.tssaa.org/schdir/regionalstandings.cfm

 

I am literally cutting and pasting the information from Coach T into a text file, cleaning it up with just the opponent and result and then adding class and opponents record and then pasting that into a spread sheet and doing the math in my head. I could make it prettier by doing some math behind the class and parsing the Ws in front of the - but I like to do the math in my head - please doublecheck my math for me.

 

My goal is to have every team in 6A ranked before the Board meets....

 

Perhaps someone else could take on 5A and ...

 

And I would be curious to see how these results would compare to Ohio's and others methods?

[eers]

Just made me think of something. What about the team that play others from out of state? What about division 2 games? Div 2-AA? Div 2-A?

[davidlimbaugh]

Just made me think of something. What about the team that play others from out of state? What about division 2 games? Div 2-AA? Div 2-A?

 

Doing the same thing for out of state teams - Fern Creek is 6A in kentucky, Christian Co is 5A - Olive Springs Mississippi is 6A in Mississippi (It looks like they just went to 6 classes this year???) hmm?? lol!

 

I am treating D2-2 as 6A and D2-1 as 3A - seem fair???

[randymc]

Just made me think of something. What about the team that play others from out of state? What about division 2 games? Div 2-AA? Div 2-A?

 

Doing the same thing for out of state teams - Fern Creek is 6A in kentucky, Christian Co is 5A - Olive Springs Mississippi is 6A in Mississippi (It looks like they just went to 6 classes this year???) hmm?? lol!

 

I am treating D2-2 as 6A and D2-1 as 3A - seem fair???

I would say you would use the schools enrollment and see where they would fit in TN, would using the multiplying factors work for D2 like it does non-scholarship D1 privates?

[cowabungadude]

No other division had a #1 seed upset in all the state.

I think the districting and playoff flaws shown in 6A call for reform.

 

Where's CHANGE when we need it Mr. Obama?

[davidlimbaugh]

No other division had a #1 seed upset in all the state.

I think the districting and playoff flaws shown in 6A call for reform.

 

Where's CHANGE when we need it Mr. Obama?

 

My hunch is that the lower classes you go into, the harder it is to schedule down to get wins to pad your overall record?