Disney Duals

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Pool D - Wilson Central

Match #1 Round 1: Flagler Attack WC defeated Wilson Central 43-27

106 - Zac Branning (Flagler Attack WC) over Chase Berta (Wilson Central) Fall 0:43

113 - Caleb Berta (Wilson Central) over Avery Holder (Flagler Attack WC) Fall 2:45

120 - Evyn Insalaco (Flagler Attack WC) over Matthew Kieta (Wilson Central) Maj 12-4

126 - Michael Deaugustiono (Flagler Attack WC) over Nick King (Wilson Central) TF 18-3

132 - Lane Dickerson (Wilson Central) over Alfred Shavers Jr. (Flagler Attack WC) Fall 1:47

138 - Kaz Maia (Flagler Attack WC) over Jacob Anderson (Wilson Central) Fall 1:02

145 - Eric Rosso (Flagler Attack WC) over Andy Hamrick (Wilson Central) Dec 6-5

152 - Mike Binns (Wilson Central) over Jackson Trivett (Flagler Attack WC) Dec 12-6

160 - Justin Boyle (Flagler Attack WC) over Zach Linton (Wilson Central) Fall 3:34

170 - Chad Soloman (Wilson Central) over Keiondre Wedderburn (Flagler Attack WC) Fall 4:44

182 - Dominque Hargreve (Flagler Attack WC) over Perry Baltz (Wilson Central) Dec 12-8

195 - Jacob Allen (Flagler Attack WC) over Billy Raulston (Wilson Central) Maj 12-3

220 - John Kramer (Wilson Central) over Jonathan Muniz (Flagler Attack WC) Fall 0:43

285 - Jakob Dempsey (Flagler Attack WC) over Christian Frans (Wilson Central) Fall 4:40

 

Match #2 Round 2: Wilson Central defeated Iowa Gold 51-25

106 - Justin Portillo (Iowa Gold) over Chase Berta (Wilson Central) Fall 2:44

113 - Josh Portillo (Iowa Gold) over Caleb Berta (Wilson Central) Maj 13-3

120 - Matthew Kieta (Wilson Central) over Garrett Bruce (Iowa Gold) Fall 1:16

126 - Eric Wedemeyer (Iowa Gold) over Nick King (Wilson Central) Dec 6-4

132 - Lane Dickerson (Wilson Central) over Brody Goodman (Iowa Gold) Fall 2:44

138 - Chance Rice (Iowa Gold) over Jacob Anderson (Wilson Central) Fall 5:54

145 - Caleb Coleman (Iowa Gold) over Andy Hamrick (Wilson Central) Fall 3:09

152 - Mike Binns (Wilson Central) over Payton Rice (Iowa Gold) Fall 5:02

160 - Zach Linton (Wilson Central) over Skyler Micholski (Iowa Gold) Fall 1:28

170 - Chad Soloman (Wilson Central) over Thomas McColley (Iowa Gold) Fall 1:10

182 - Perry Baltz (Wilson Central) over Nathan Krueger (Iowa Gold) Dec 9-4

195 - Billy Raulston (Wilson Central) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

220 - John Kramer (Wilson Central) over Kody Butler (Iowa Gold) Fall 0:29

285 - Christian Frans (Wilson Central) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

 

Match #3 Round 3: Wilson Central defeated Venice Indians 51-24

106 - Hunter Moline (Venice Indians) over Chase Berta (Wilson Central) Fall 1:40

113 - Caleb Berta (Wilson Central) over Brent Smallwood (Venice Indians) Fall 3:14

120 - Bo Williams (Venice Indians) over Matthew Kieta (Wilson Central) Dec 8-6

126 - Zach Kelly (Venice Indians) over Nick King (Wilson Central) Fall 0:14

132 - Lane Dickerson (Wilson Central) over Lincoln Yoder (Venice Indians) Fall 5:03

138 - Bryce Balsinger (Venice Indians) over Jacob Anderson (Wilson Central) Fall 2:41

145 - C J Trammell (Venice Indians) over Andy Hamrick (Wilson Central) Dec 6-3

152 - Mike Binns (Wilson Central) over Evan Edwards (Venice Indians) Fall 1:09

160 - Zach Linton (Wilson Central) over Casey Dejonge (Venice Indians) Dec 6-2

170 - Chad Soloman (Wilson Central) over Nicholas Vischulis (Venice Indians) Fall 2:23

182 - Perry Baltz (Wilson Central) over Angelo Akyan (Venice Indians) Fall 1:31

195 - Billy Raulston (Wilson Central) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

220 - John Kramer (Wilson Central) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

285 - Christian Frans (Wilson Central) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

 

Match #4 Round 4: 4.Avon WC defeated Wilson Central 42-23

106 - Mason Miranda (4.Avon WC) over Chase Berta (Wilson Central) Fall 3:32

113 - Caleb Berta (Wilson Central) over Bailey Chatterton (4.Avon WC) Dec 4-2

120 - Matthew Kieta (Wilson Central) over Caleb Alvarez (4.Avon WC) Maj 17-8

126 - Quinton Harris (4.Avon WC) over Nick King (Wilson Central) Fall 2:06

132 - Lane Dickerson (Wilson Central) over Jacob Clark (4.Avon WC) Fall 3:35

138 - Marcus Miranda (4.Avon WC) over Jacob Anderson (Wilson Central) Fall 0:43

145 - Keaton Fainter (4.Avon WC) over Andy Hamrick (Wilson Central) Fall 3:22

152 - Mike Binns (Wilson Central) over David Frank (4.Avon WC) Maj 16-6

160 - Brendon Helm (4.Avon WC) over Zach Linton (Wilson Central) Fall 0:32

170 - Chad Soloman (Wilson Central) over Evan Elmore (4.Avon WC) Dec 9-5

182 - Mitchell Sandlin (4.Avon WC) over Perry Baltz (Wilson Central) Dec 12-7

195 - Corey Hinkle (4.Avon WC) over Billy Raulston (Wilson Central) Dec 3-0

220 - John Kramer (Wilson Central) over Gunnar Larson (4.Avon WC) Dec 3-1

285 - Oscar Reyes (4.Avon WC) over Christian Frans (Wilson Central) Fall 2:41

[Newestguy]

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Dead Period Rule – No coaching, observing, or contact between coach and players in sport involved. There is no practice, 

 

no open facilities, and no weight training/conditioning. The Dead Period, which is to be observed by all schools, is the week of 

 

the 4th of July and the preceding week – 14 days.

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From what I understand Coach Roberts from Beech High School is the Coach for the Wilson Central team. This is the same concept that is being used by the Junior Dual team to be able to compete during the dead period. Junior Duals and Disney Duals are both great opportunities to wrestle against some of the best HS wrestlers in the country. I applaud both of these teams for finding a way to compete at these events while still staying within the rules.

Edited June 27, 2014 by deadlift

[WrestlingGod]

?????

 

Dead Period Rule – No coaching, observing, or contact between coach and players in sport involved. There is no practice,

 

no open facilities, and no weight training/conditioning. The Dead Period, which is to be observed by all schools, is the week of

 

the 4th of July and the preceding week – 14 days.

I thought they were getting rid of it anyways. When is that scheduled to happen cause this dead period thing is crap.

[Newestguy]

Beginning the first day of summer break 2014, there are no longer coaching restrictions for wrestling EXCEPT during the dead period. I suppose the dead period will always be. Usually it is the 2 weeks immediately following the season and the week of and before July 4.

 

I'll be shocked if there aren't consequences for those organized teams at Disney Duals. Because the rules for wrestling (and a couple other sports) are now so relaxed, Mr. Reeves has emphasized that the rules which are in place will be strictly enforced. Not sure how having an organized team compete in a major competition isn't in violation of the dead period. Individuals competing on their own with mixed all star teams (Junior Duals) is a completely different scenario.  

Edited June 28, 2014 by Newestguy

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Beginning the first day of summer break 2014, there are no longer coaching restrictions for wrestling EXCEPT during the dead period. I suppose the dead period will always be. Usually it is the 2 weeks immediately following the season and the week of and before July 4.

 

I'll be shocked if there aren't consequences for those organized teams at Disney Duals. Because the rules for wrestling (and a couple other sports) are now so relaxed, Mr. Reeves has emphasized that the rules which are in place will be strictly enforced. Not sure how having an organized team compete in a major competition isn't in violation of the dead period. Individuals competing on their own with mixed all star teams (Junior Duals) is a completely different scenario.

I'm not following you on this. It's OK to compete on Junior Duals using a coach that isn't your actual high school coach but not Disney Duals using a coach that is not your actual HS coach? I'm quite sure that no one was forced to go to either of these events, so you could say both involve individuals competing on their own. Both are using good wrestlers from multiple teams so you could also call both all-star teams. Edited June 28, 2014 by deadlift

[Newestguy]

I just hope that those involved had enough wisdom to call the TSSAA in advance to get clarification/permission. It's my understanding that if there are more than 2 from the same team competing it is considered 'organized' competition. Any sane person that understands wrestling knows the rules are silly, but they are still the rules. The TSSAA made a very rare rule change to accommodate wrestling because so many involved complained about the restrictions. However, Mr. Reeves made it VERY CLEAR that since the restrictions were lifted, the TSSAA would have major problems if teams continued to attempt to manipulate the existing rules.

 

If I recal correctly, a coach last year got in tremendous trouble for simply taking a kid home after a wrestling camp because it fell during the first day of the dead period. How much more severe will the penalties be for coaches 'observing' and 'organizing' an event that clearly falls during the dead period? Personally, I could really care less what others do, I'm simply making an observation. But I'm also aware that are many out there that get great satisfaction trying to tear down other programs. Especially when their winning.  

Edited June 28, 2014 by Newestguy

[canthide]

Do any of the kids on the Junior Duals team have their coach there?

[Newestguy]

It is my understanding (let me make it clear I don't know this for fact) that one of the coaches of the Junior Duals team called for clarification. He was told because it was an All Star Event (paraphrasing), he could be present BUT he couldn't have more than one representative competing from his team or he would be in violation.

Edited June 28, 2014 by Newestguy

[WrestlingGod]

Well that's dumb. Doesn't make any sense. You're telling me that on the Junior Dual team there's only one Cleveland wrestler? Only one Bradley wrestler? That doesn't make sense. I think if it's not the coach running the team or coaching their kids in any way they're fine.

 

They could've chosen any name, they just chose Wilson Central. If the JR dual team chose team Cleveland Blue Raiders would we be saying the same thing on that thread?

Edited June 28, 2014 by WrestlingGod

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Match #5 Round 5: Wilson Central defeated King Cougar 51-17

106 - Chris Robles (King Cougar) over Chase Berta (Wilson Central) Dec 9-3

113 - Brenden Eddinton (King Cougar) over Caleb Berta (Wilson Central) Maj 13-3

120 - Matthew Kieta (Wilson Central) over Wyatt Barnett (King Cougar) Fall 2:40

126 - Nick King (Wilson Central) over Nicholas Gulotta (King Cougar) Dec 4-3

132 - Lane Dickerson (Wilson Central) over Mitch Hamilton (King Cougar) Fall 0:22

138 - Luis Guittierez (King Cougar) over Jacob Anderson (Wilson Central) Fall 1:26

145 - Andy Hamrick (Wilson Central) over Bob Lowe (King Cougar) Fall 1:48

152 - Mike Binns (Wilson Central) over Kyden Poulson (King Cougar) Fall 1:15

160 - Zach Linton (Wilson Central) over Nate Vajen (King Cougar)

170 - Chad Soloman (Wilson Central) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

182 - Jamel Davis (King Cougar) over Perry Baltz (Wilson Central) Dec 7-5

195 - Billy Raulston (Wilson Central) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

220 - John Kramer (Wilson Central) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf

285 - Jacob Hughes (King Cougar) over Christian Frans (Wilson Central) Dec 4-3

Wilson Central's team score was adjusted by 6.000 for default

King Cougar's team score was adjusted by -1.000 for unportsmanlike

King Cougar's team score was adjusted by -1.000 for unsportsmanlike on coach

[YOUTHCOACH16]

Why should this be any different than all the travel baseball teams that are playing right now? Many of those teams have multiple kids from the same high school on them. If their coach isn't coaching them and they aren't using the schools facility's they attend then how could the Tssaa tell a kid he can't compete in the summer on his or her own free time? That would be a huge violation of consitunional rights. The dead period is to allow kids to have a break from their respective sports without their school coach " forcing " them to practice, lift, ectt.. What kids and parents chose to do on their own can't legally be dictated by any governing body and if they tried there would be a huge lawsuit. The dead period states there can't be any conditioning , open facilities ect.. If a kid wants to go to a private gym and lift weights are you suggesting this is a violation of the dead period? That would be the same as saying these kids can't compete in the junior duals, Disney duals ect..