oakland at center grove, IN

[Augustus]

Oakland definitely got taken to the woodshed.  From my point of view it doesn't appear the defense or offense was anywhere near what they have been in the past.  Some very poor play by both the offensive and defensive lines and the secondary. However, I think it is going to be very interesting to see the improvement from game to game.

[MidTennFootball]

59 minutes ago, Augustus said:

Oakland definitely got taken to the woodshed.  From my point of view it doesn't appear the defense or offense was anywhere near what they have been in the past.  Some very poor play by both the offensive and defensive lines and the secondary. However, I think it is going to be very interesting to see the improvement from game to game.

Center Grove had alot to do with that. Don't think anyone in TN would beat CG. Oakland is just one week removed from gaining over 400 yards while allowing 150 against a good independence team. Long run, this kind of result was the best thing that could happen to Oakland 

[OutofStater79]

10 hours ago, MSURacer said:

I’ve been there many times, Indiana are not true Yankees. It’s basically the south’s middle finger. 
 

But regardless of the result, good on Oakland for scheduling. Respect. 

Haha. So true. very well said. And it's not just Indiana. I've lived in Chicago and Indianapolis my entire life. Alot of Indiana residents will tell you if they could live anywhere it would be Nashville, Knoxville, Gatlinburg or some rural area in Tennessee. Nashville is very trendy in Chicago now as well. And Nashville is taking up the sports radio airwaives in Chicago now that hte Sox are threatening to move and Nashville seems to be on the verge of getting an MLB team. Side note, if Gerry Reinsdorf or one of his sons actually moves the Sox to Nashville, stay far away. He's the epitome of an owner only caring about ROI to shareholders and not on field success. He's the worst. Anyways, My wife, raised in Indiana, was born in Murfreesboro so I've been to your area a few times. Drove through Nashville in July on my way down to the Gulf Coast. A lot of Midwesterners have embraced the Southern States and love it down there. At this point I just think of the NE as Yankees. 

 

Anyways, as a huge Big Ten and SEC fan I was looking forward to watching this one. Indiana's best teams typicallly only schedule around Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, and the Louisville powers becasue Indiana used to have a travel rule that prevented their teams from playing anyone outside of a certain distance from the nearest Indiana state line. It was fun to see a team from Tennessee come up to the Indy 'burbs. 

 

To add some perspective, Center Grove is a f'n machine. Their coach has built a phenomenal culture there and they have complete buy in from the community. They have a very large Youth League and all teams run Varsity playbooks. They typically run more of the Wing T but have opened it up lately on offense as this is now their 2nd recent QB who can throw the ball and will be playing Power 5 level football. Their best team was from 2 years ago when they had Tayven Jackson at QB (transferred from Tennessee to IU in the offseason), some D1 recruits at the skill position, and an entire DL that secured Power 5 D1 scholarships. The best of that bunch was Caden Curry who will be seeing time for Ohio State this year as a SO. at DE and will likely end up in the NFL. They also had a beast of a RB who trucked everyone but couldn't get Power 5 offers. He ended up going to Ball State, trucked the MAC, and UCLA quickly picked him up out of the transfer portal. He'll likely be their starting RB.

 

Anyways, for some perspective. Lakewood St. Edward beat Center Grove fairly easily in Week 1. But, as someone said above, that team is loaded with Power 5 recruits including multiple Big Ten recruits on their O-Line. They're basically a Cleveland pseudo All-Star team. They're definately better than Center Grove, but Center Grove also didn't play a very good game. On the flip side, Indianapolis Ben Davis , who is 1 or maybe 2 of the teams in Indiana capable of beating Center Grove and very similiar in looks to Oakland, kicked Cincinnati Moeller to the curb in Week 1 (49-28) and Moeller is a Top 5 Ohio Team. I think it's pointless to draw conclusions about Tennessee football because of Center Grove's 2 games. 

Oakland was who I thought they would be. Big, fast, aggressive, and hard hitting. They just ran into a buzzaw last night. It happens. IMO, there's really no secret to HS football. It's typically demographics and socioeconomics. Large suburban schools with a plethora of talent and famililes that can afford speciialized training for their kids typically dominant in every state. Then, throw in the City Catholic schools. Though, I'm not sure how big of a problem the Catholic schools are in the South. 

Edited August 26, 2023 by OutofStater79

[MidTennFootball]

5 minutes ago, OutofStater79 said:

Haha. So true. very well said. And it's not just Indiana. I've lived in Chicago and Indianapolis my entire life. Alot of Indiana residents will tell you if they could live anywhere it would be Nashville, Knoxville, Gatlinburg or some rural area in Tennessee. Nashville is very trendy in Chicago now as well. And Nashville is taking up the sports radio airwaives in Chicago now that hte Sox are threatening to move and Nashville seems to be on the verge of getting an MLB team. Side note, if Gerry Reinsdorf or one of his sons actually moves the Sox to Nashville, stay far away. He's the epitome of an owner only caring about ROI to shareholders and not on field success. He's the worst. Anyways, My wife, raised in Indiana, was born in Murfreesboro so I've been to your area a few times. Drove through Nashville in July on my way down to the Gulf Coast. A lot of Midwesterners have embraced the Southern States and love it down there. At this point I just think of the NE as Yankees. 

 

Anyways, as a huge Big Ten and SEC fan I was looking forward to watching this one. Indiana's best teams typicallly only schedule around Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, and the Louisville powers becasue Indiana used to have a travel rule that prevented their teams from playing anyone outside of a certain distance from the nearest Indiana state line. It was fun to see a team from Tennessee come up to the Indy 'burbs. 

 

To add some perspective, Center Grove is a f'n machine. Their coach has built a phenomenal culture there and they have complete buy in from the community. They have a very large Youth League and all teams run Varsity playbooks. They typically run more of the Wing T but have opened it up lately on offense as this is now their 2nd recent QB who can throw the ball and will be playing Power 5 level football. Their best team was from 2 years ago when they had Tayven Jackson at QB (transferred from Tennessee to IU in the offseason), some D1 recruits at the skill position, and an entire DL that secured Power 5 D1 scholarships. The best of that bunch was Caden Curry who will be seeing time for Ohio State this year as a SO. at DE and will likely end up in the NFL. They also had a beast of a RB who trucked everyone but couldn't get Power 5 offers. He ended up going to Ball State, trucked the MAC, and UCLA quickly picked him up out of the transfer portal. He'll likely be their starting RB.

 

Anyways, for some perspective. Lakewood St. Edward beat Center Grove fairly easily in Week 1. But, as someone said above, that team is loaded with Power 5 recruits including multiple Big Ten recruits on their O-Line. They're basically a Cleveland pseudo All-Star team. They're definately better than Center Grove, but Center Grove also didn't play a very good game. On the flip side, Indianapolis Ben Davis , who is 1 or maybe 2 of the teams in Indiana capable of beating Center Grove and very similiar in looks to Oakland, kicked Cincinnati Moeller to the curb in Week 1 (49-28) and Moeller is a Top 5 Ohio Team. I think it's pointless to draw conclusions about Tennessee football because of Center Grove's 2 games. 

Oakland was who I thought they would be. Big, fast, aggressive, and hard hitting. They just ran into a buzzaw last night. It happens. IMO, there's really no secret to HS football. It's typically demographics and socioeconomics. Large suburban schools with a plethora of talent and famililes that can afford speciialized training for their kids typically dominant in every state. Then, throw in the City Catholic schools. Though, I'm not sure how big of a problem the Catholic schools are in the South. 

Heckuva good first post, agreed with everything you said. Midwestern folk and southerners are basically the same ppl and nobody will convince me otherwise

[bbragg]

On 8/21/2023 at 7:17 AM, Augustus said:

Oakland will win this football game.  

Auggie is batting 1000.

[pepvol]

1 hour ago, MidTennFootball said:

Heckuva good first post, agreed with everything you said. Midwestern folk and southerners are basically the same ppl and nobody will convince me otherwise

I have 4 Brother in laws from northern Indiana  and I remember being shocked the first time I met them by how similar they were to me and my Brothers from East Tennessee. 

[BroadwayBarberShop]

19 minutes ago, pepvol said:

I have 4 Brother in laws from northern Indiana  and I remember being shocked the first time I met them by how similar they were to me and my Brothers from East Tennessee. 

I don’t know if anyone that is similar to you and your brothers. 

[TinPigskin]

15 hours ago, JustinBuck said:

This game shows how far behind other states TN is. Center Grove gets killed last week then dominates the best public school team in TN this week. 

https://giphy.com/gifs/explained-gump-plagiarism-R51a8oAH7KwbS

You don't get out much, do you?

Edited August 26, 2023 by TinPigskin

[OutofStater79]

2 hours ago, pepvol said:

I have 4 Brother in laws from northern Indiana  and I remember being shocked the first time I met them by how similar they were to me and my Brothers from East Tennessee. 

Ha! What part of Indiana? I had a shocking moment like that for myself. My brother in law was in Nashville for about 10 years and I visited him once during the Stlanley Cup playoffs. He's a big Preds fan. We went to Sam's Sports Grill in Murfeesboro to watch a game and I was expecting the place to be empty. I couldn't believe I walked into a packed bar of people wearing Alabama or Tennessee football hats watching a hockey game on a Saturday afternoon in the Spring. 

I always just assumed it was strictly HS footall, SEC Football, SEC Baseball, and the Atlanta Braves for you guys. And then make fun of ACC and Big Ten fas while bored.

Edited August 26, 2023 by OutofStater79

[JustinBuck]

1 hour ago, TinPigskin said:

https://giphy.com/gifs/explained-gump-plagiarism-R51a8oAH7KwbS

You don't get out much, do you?

Derp

[pepvol]

3 hours ago, BroadwayBarberShop said:

I don’t know if anyone that is similar to you and your brothers. 

I know, Right !! Believe it or not my Bro in laws in Bloomington are even crazier! LoL they’re just as passionate about sports as we are and they hate Kentucky just as much as I do ! LoL 

[pepvol]

1 hour ago, OutofStater79 said:

Ha! What part of Indiana? I had a shocking moment like that for myself. My brother in law was in Nashville for about 10 years and I visited him once during the Stlanley Cup playoffs. He's a big Preds fan. We went to Sam's Sports Grill in Murfeesboro to watch a game and I was expecting the place to be empty. I couldn't believe I walked into a packed bar of people wearing Alabama or Tennessee football hats watching a hockey game on a Saturday afternoon in the Spring. 

I always just assumed it was strictly HS footall, SEC Football, SEC Baseball, and the Atlanta Braves for you guys. And then make fun of ACC and Big Ten fas while bored.

Bloomington… they are just as obsessed about the Hoosiers as we are the Vols . They wish the big 10 was as good as the SEC !! LoL