Warren County Basketball

[wcalltheway]

OK, I have been holding off on any comments until I saw this team a few more times. After tonight's game against Cleveland, I can no longer be quiet. This is simply not the same team from the last couple of years. The players are the same. The only change is the coaching staff. This team doesn't seem to have that fire, that desire to play hard, or that never quit attitude of years' past. Many times they seem confused on the court. Multiple times tonight the didn't seem to know what they were doing on either end of the court. I do realize this is the first AAA team the Pioneers have played and they do still have a winning record at 3-2, but this is a concern. What is the deal with no substitutes playing? The players onn the bench seem to be decent players. There are some I don't recognize, but they always do well at the end of the game. I'm not sure, but I believe Bishop didn't come out this entire game and a couple of other players (#33 and Marlowe) didn't come out very much. Cleveland seemed to have no bench and Warren County did exactly what they wanted. What does everyone think? Did the loss of last year's seniors hurt that much? Is it the new coach? What's the problem?

[nuthnbutnet]

Anytime you lose a player like Randall Harrell it's gonna hurt, however, you're not giving Cleveland enough credit. They are talented (bench included) especially #15. If Warren County looked confused at times and they did look confused, my guess is that they are still learning Coach Turner's system. It takes time for coaches to implement their schemes and players to learn it. Turner could (and should) utilize his bench better. Jury's still out on that one. But give the Pioneers their due. They played hard and made a game out of it.

[hardball23]

The head coach has change but the asst. coaches are the same. good or bad the team played hard. the new coach will have to learn the kids as well as to teach his asst. that why it's a lot easier to bring in new asst. when a new coach is hired. that not a knock on the asst. but going from one system to another is hard for eveyone.

I have watch the games over the weekend i think the kids have to play with confidence. that where the new coach will learn what it takes to push the kids in the right direction.

[southpaw24]

i think only one of the assts is the same... in fact, i'm sure one is new... did keil take any with him? seems easier to take assts that know your system than teach new ones...

[caffeinefree]

Lets give coach Turner more than 5 games before we judge his whole coaching career. The Pioneers havent played the way the have in the previous three years, but guess what they are not going to a new man is running the show. His style seems totally different, but let the wins and losses judge his system. 5 games just isnt enough time. As for nutnbutnet comment and about how good Cleveland is what a step out. Take #15 (Little) away from that squad and they just plain stink. What bench did you see. Only had 9 players total and from the 4 on the bench plus a quarter you might had enough money to make a phone call. Fundamentally they were horrible. Turned it over left and right and defensively for a team with so much so called quickness they couldnt seem to stop dribble penetration. Granted I only watched them play once, but nutnbutnet is way off talking about how the pioneers just made a game of it. Cleveland from my point of view overrated. Remember Cleveland beat Riverdale with 3 of Riverdale's key players still in football.

[hardball23]

everyone said the boys looked more like a team last night .

[nuthnbutnet]

ditto!!!

[rastabob]

I will agree. Warren County did look more like a team on Tuesday night. Why do you think this is? What is it that makes these guys look like contenders on one night and then pretenders the next? Who is the leading scorer so far? To be honest, it looked like Reese (I know he was the leading scorer) just doesn't have his shot going. Why didn't the big kid (Nunley, I think) play more. It seemed he only played about 3-5 minutes and he had 8 points and a few rebounds. I just can't seem to get a feel for this team. I can't figure out who is going to be the go-to guy after Reese. Also, it seems they wear out toward the end. This is something I have not seen much before. Was their training changed or what? I know it's early, these are just some things I have wondered about while watching a couple of the games.

[nuthnbutnet]

i think only one of the assts is the same... in fact, i'm sure one is new... did keil take any with him? seems easier to take assts that know your system than teach new ones...

Keil didn't take any asst. with him. As for Warren County, Alan Smith (asst. and

JV coach under Keil) is still teaching @ WCHS but coaching 5th-6th & 7th-8th boys teams @ Morrison Elementary in Warren County. Stan Jacobs is still asst. and Freshman coach. The new asst. is Tommy Davis and he coaches the JV now.