BayouBear

I was asked by several folks last night to provide the following Bradley information. Here it is...... First state place winner - 1982 - Ron Johnson - 4th First State Champion - 1984 - Steve Logsdon First Tournament OW Award - Heath Eslinger - 1995 First State Duals Championship - 1994 First State Traditional Championship - 1998 State Duals Championships - 12 State Traditional Championships - 10 (thru today) Total Outstanding Wrestler Awards - 7 All time placewinners (1982 thru 2010) - 144 State Champions - 50 Runner Ups - 28 Total 3rds - 25 Total 4ths - 18 Total 5ths - 9 Total 6ths - 14

Som - I liked you better when you were on the meds.

Further proof of the "Dumbing Down" of society. Everybody gets a medal...and then we hug.

There was some dicussion with Chuck but a deal couldn't be worked out. He wanted to bring Cheryl Tieg in as Cheerleader Coach. Although, Tim Tebow has been signed to long term deal in the event the NFL doesn't work out. He will be in charge of pre and post match speeches. His title will be Assistant Coach and Recruiting Coordinator.

I thought I was offered a position on this staff! Touche`. I'm Blackberry challenged

You guys don't know anything. Here's the rumored coaching staff; Steve Logston - Head Coach - Instruction, Motivation Cliff Ramos - Associate Head Coach - Scheduling and Fund Raising Eric Phillips - Associate Head Coach - Instruction Hank Raines - Assistant Coach - 103, 112, 119 Ben Smith - Assistant Coach - 125, 130, 135, Josh Boskin - Assistant Coach - 145, 152, 160, 171 Brandon Forrester - Assistant Coach - 189, 215, 285

The rumor going round is Cleveland HS and Bradley Central will be combined into one large school beginning next year. Here's the potential wrestling lineup for next year: 103 - A. Oliver (CL) - 2010 St. Runner Up 112 - J. Crutcher BC) - 2010 St Runner Up 119 - E. Hames (BC) - 2010 St Champ 125 - T. Pitts (BC) - 2009 St Champ 130 - M. Lopez (CL) - 2010 St Champ 135 - T. Schuch (BC) - 2010 6th 140 - A Lopez (CL) - 2010 5th 145 - B. Colbaugh (BC) - 2010 3rd 152 - I. Nichols (CL) - 2010 6th 160 - TBD 171 - J. Bailey (BC) 189 - J. Jones (CL) 215 - T. Bolton (BC) - 2010 St Runner Up 285 - P. Benson (BC) - 2010 5th

Mats on ice....nice. That would be really cool.

......and I thought the Saints winning the Super Bowl was a sure sign of an impending world apocalypse. Now this. A completely readable, understandable and intelligent post by Sommers. we should all start hoarding food and guns. Soms - The jury is still out on you but you are correct, the Seymour coach should be and needs to be recognized for his decision. For all those that missed it......Kennedy was wrestling Seymour's 189. Mike picked him up and slammed him. It WAS NOT an illegal slam IMO, but it was a hard slam. The ref dropped to the mat and began to count backpoints. The ref recognized the wrestler was hurt and stopped the match for injury time. He then signaled the slam was illegal. I repeat, he didn't call the slam illegal when it happened but only after the match was stopped. The Seymour wrestler couldn't continue which be rule means Kennedy is DQ'd. At the point when injury time expires the coach has the option to forfeit the match instead. He did this and has earned my respect forever. The ref, on the other hand.............

I'm too tired to dig up the numbers but I have them. Tennessee wrestling is growing slower than the adjoining states with multiple divisions even when those statistics are adusted for population growth/new school construction. There's too many people in this state who feel the most important issue is finding out who has the biggest and baddest dog. They care more about how it used to be, egos and pointing out the problems rather than finding a path which leads to growth and prosperity. Everyone should probably start adjusting to the thought of a Small School Division. It's going to happen. It may be a few years but it's gonna happen. There is too many folks in favor of it and I am one of them.

Yep. Thanks. Corrected

Here's my picks. I couldn't do what Bray did and just pick the favorites. Plenty of Darkhorses in my list. For the Tiebreaker - Bradley sets a new record with 301 points. MOW - Cambell Lewis pins his way through a fairly tough bracket Best Match - 103 Climer wins close decision 22-21 103 1. Climer (Bradley) 2. Langford (Walker Valley) 3. Brunner (Tullahoma) 4. Oliver (Cleveland) 5. Eustice (Soddy) 6. Gonzales (Ross) 112 1. Thomas (Brentwood) 2. Crutcher (Bradley) 3. Maxwell (Karns) 4. Bates (Mt. J) 5. Kermick (Germ) 6. Martin (Red Bank) 119 1. Hames (Bradley) 2. Boone (Notre Dame) 3. Hamilton (Cleveland) 4. Hall (Seymour) 5. Harvey (Ooltewah) 6. Bennett (Franklin) 125 1. Lewis (Soddy) 2. Shepherd (Dickson Co) 3. King (Cordova) 4. Compton (Franklin) 5. Pitts (Bradley) 6. Feuerbacher (Blackman) 130 1. Lopez (Cleveland) 2. Seaman (Mt. Juliet) 3. Schuch (Bradley) 4. Gamble (Soddy) 5. Heithcock (Indy) 6. Woods (Franklin) 135 1. Herron (Bradley) 2. Penson (Cordova) 3. Jordan (Clarksville) 4. Lopez (Cleveland) 5. Carter (Rhea) 6. Molina (Heritage) 140 1. Colbaugh (Bradley) 2. Smith (Soddy) 3. Birdwell (Cookeville) 4. Herold (Morristown West) 5. Neil (Blackman) 6. Cosey (Hixson) 145 1. Miller (Greenback) 2. Cox (Indy) 3. Isbell (Clarksville) 4. Aguilar (Bradley) 5. Stull (Science Hill) 6. Holland (Pigeon Forge) 152 1. Aguilar (Bradley) 2. Lilley (Collierville) 3. Newberg (Indy) 4. Shrader (Franklin) 5. Edafe (East Lit) 6. Roberts (Beech) 160 1. Biggs (Mt. Juliet) 2. Henry (Cookeville) 3. Manning (Ooltewah) 4. Jones (Cleveland) 5. Bailey (Bradley) 6. Alemany (Hixson) 171 1. Proctor (Cookeville) 2. Davis (Pigeon Forge) 3. Roderick (Bradley) 4. Mathieson (Hixson) 5. Talley (Dickson Co) 6. Tambellini (Indy) 189 1. Kennedy (Blackman) 2. Toon (Ooltewah) 3. Salada (Cookeville) 4. Latimore (Lebanon) 5. Norwood (Cleveland) 6. Hood (Bradley) 215 1. Croy (Brentwood) 2. Bolton (Bradley) 3. Simpson (Walker Valley) 4. Carlson (Jeff Co) 5. Jaeckel (Hendersonville) 6. Wells (Blackman) 285 1. Allen (Mt. Juliet) 2. Bain (Warren Co) 3. Dailey (Greenback) 4. Kuntzman (Collierville) 5. Benson (Bradley) 6. Barnette (Science Hill)

Hmmmmm. It's a good question but a hard question to answer. Let's look at the criteria Nainten suggested; # HS Programs - Georgia has 5 classes. It certainly encourages participation but does not necessarily insure quality. # Nationally ranked HS Programs - Certainly no offense to Collins Hill or Brandon, FL but national rankings of a few teams can't be a measuring stick. Example... Brandon and Collins Hill are ranked higher than any team in Iowa. In fact, there are no Iowa teams ranked in the Top 25. Does that make Florida and Georgia better than Iowa? # Division I wrestlers - This is the measurement I use mostly because it's easy to get the data....but it really isn't a good one. Tennessee has 6-7 million people and Florida has nearly 20 million. They should be putting more into Division I wrestling programs. # Division I and DII All Americans - Another decent measurement but not really because it is more a measurement of the Great wrestlers a state produces and not of the general quality of wrestling across the state. # NCAA Qualifiers - See above # Nationally Ranked HS Wrestlers - See above The BBBL (BayouBear Bottom line) is this ---- The quality of wrestling in a state is reflected by the quality of the top "tier" of teams and the best and only measurement I ever came up with was to visualize matches between the Top 5 or 10 teams of one state versus the top 5 or 10 teams from another state. For example; take Baylor, Bradley, Christian Brothers, Cleveland and Father Ryan and put them up against Collins Hill, Pope, Camden County, Loganville and Gilmer (just a guess RMC). 1's versus 1's, 2's versus 2's and so on. This would give you a quick and fairly accurate indication of the quality of each state. Where would Tennessee stand versus all other Southern states using this method? I think at or near the top in most years. jcddmoon - I'm very aware the youth program is thriving and I too am hopeful of a bright future for Tennessee wrestling. What we really need is more college wrestling in Tennessee and the other southern states. One of the big reasons why some states are better than others is the number of college programs in those states. Those programs graduate wrestlers every year and many go into coaching. The high school coaching spots fill up with ex-college wrestlers and then it filters down into the middle schools and the clubs.

Does anyone else ever wonder if hrdcrwrestler, Sommers and Rigger were seperated at birth?

Buck...couple of things. Yes, Dabears is a friend and I think he's trying to get in touch with his femine side too. BUT, I need to remind everyone ...... IT'S A WRESTLING TOURNAMENT!!!!! Drive all night, sleep in the car, wake up freezin', watch wrestling all day and night, sleep in closest place with a vacancy, eat crappy free motel breakfast, watch wrestling all day and night, drive all night getting home. THAT's WRESTLING...Real Man Style. You guys are carrying on like a bunch of soccer moms. It won't be long before someone is going to ask for the best place to buy juice boxes and snacks.

BayouBear agrees.....20+ medalists and 6 State Champs (maybe 7 or 8) coming out of this region

cbg - It still happens. BUT then all the other coaches argue to get their kid on the other side of the bracket.

Thread Cliff Notes (Through Page 8) - Updated for Buck. In Jock - Calls out the Bradley Nation ghouse - Points out serious flaws in In Jock's post In Jock - Ignores minor details of truth tnlonghorn - Defends BC and gives Baylor a hug DaisyMay - Takes a shot - Calls out In Jock In Jock - Sprawls DaisyMay - Completes the takedown In Jock - Whines but can't escape RebelsRebelsRebels - Franklin ain't afraid smwwrest - They should be maj - Says In Jock is drunk OldGregg - Says In Jock is ridiculously drunk 2blLeg - Who cares? BayouBear - Stomps mudhole in In Jock tnlonghorn - hugs BayouBear BayouBear - hugs tnlonghorn GrecoMan - Huh? RebelsRebelsRebels - Calls out all DII schools 2blLeg - Say what? RebelsRebelsRebels - Calls out all DII schools again! facenthecrowd - Back atcha Rebels RebelsRebelsRebels - Reminds everyone Franklin is a public School 2blLeg - Say what? RebelsRebelsRebels - Answers question with a question facenthecrowd - Because Rebels said so! 2blLeg - Nothing but angels at CBHS Wrestlersdad - Eating popcorn matback - QUIT COMPLAINING! broughtonfan02 - Everybody is recruiting…toss small grenade at BC RebelsRebelsRebels - smidge of crawfishing 2blLeg - I Want The Truth! TheBrave300 - Calls out every DI school maj - Says TheBrave300 is mentally afflicted StevenMcK - agrees facenthecrowd - Says Rebels is mentally afflicted rigger101 - Another worthless Rigger post RebelsRebelsRebels - going to bed broughtonfan02 - In Jock…Just shut up 2blLeg - Makes perfectly clear, In Jock is a Ryan guy broughtonfan02 - Everybody should recruit Sommers - Makes post while high on something…Again. csemary - Wants to know what Sommers is high on. StarRaider - Dale Gribble makes surprise appearance facenthecrowd - Calls Rebel crazy facenthecrowd - Go away Rigger texas23 - says Sommers is mentally afflicted StarRaider - agrees BuckLateral - Really agrees RebelsRebelsRebels - beats a dead horse broughtonfan02 - a few licks on the dead horse PRTiii - Making sure horse is really dead Part Deaux broughtonfan02 - says he's crazy and likes dead horses Sommers - Still high facenthecrowd - Hug for BayouBear Findthetruth - Stupidly asks, "Does this thread matter?" rigger101 - Another worthless Rigger post lasrever - Recites the DII mantra - "It's need based financial aid!!!!" gonavy2 - BA wrestlers are barely out of diapers In Jock - Shazaaam RebelsRebelsRebels - Hugs for In Jock StarRaider - Looking forward to Hockey season In Jock - Someone stole CoachT password and makes nice post findthetruth - Tells In Jock to "Go ask the Bears". In Jock - Admits he can't read findthetruth - Tells In Jock to "Go ask the Bears"….again In Jock - says….Sure. He'll get right on it. Slingshot - CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE!!!!! BayouBear - Offers olive branch KneeTap - Mental Pic----Fat guy in a thong ----Yikes!!! BuckLateral - O.U.R. - Official Update Request BayouBear - Request Granted

----- Guru Buck ----- Greetings from the Crescent City. You are the man. The East Lit victory in the first round was like a broadside torpedo. I didn't have a chance. So you know I'm a man of my word, you can attend any or all BC matches next year on me (prior notification necessary). On a potential FR-BC match....let's wait and see if 'In Hoc' can work his magic. Winning Championships never gets old. Sweeter of the two? I have to go with the Saints. Been waiting my entire life for that one.

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I'm going to try civility one last time. Here are the facts you need to know. We have NEVER refused to wrestle ALL DII schools. We ceased wrestling McCallie after the split and have no plans to resume. We wrestled Baylor every year and they attended our tournament through the 2001 season but we have no immediate plans to resume wrestling Baylor. As far as the other DII schools are concerned...We used to wrestle CBHS at the Cleveland Duals most every year. We've wrestled Father Ryan a few times over the years when our paths have crossed. We wrestled Notre Dame in duals many times and they attended our tournament every year while they were in DII. If you'd like to see BC wrestle Baylor or McCallie, it's not going to happen. However, if you'd like to see Father Ryan or MBA or CBHS wrestle BC, why don't you try and make it happen, since it seems to be so important to you. It hard to work out duals between teams from different areas of the state because of the travel involved but as motivated as you seem, you may be able to work it out. One last thought......One of your Purple buddies "outed" your identity to me at the State Duals. Do me a favor.....Ask around and find me at the traditional tournament. There are lots of folks who know me. I'll take the time to explain what I have posted here in greater detail. Know this too....We are not a bunch of Black and Gold monsters with a grand plan. We're just regular people who love wrestling and the very funny thing is.....We are very much like Father Ryan, people love to hate on us and that's OK too.

Whew! 6 pages. This thread needs a summary. Here it is: In Jock - Calls out the Bradley Nation ghouse - Points out serious flaws in In Jock's post In Jock - Ignores minor details of truth tnlonghorn - Defends BC and gives Baylor a hug DaisyMay - Takes a shot - Calls out In Jock In Jock - Sprawls DaisyMay - Completes the takedown In Jock - Whines but can't escape RebelsRebelsRebels - Franklin ain't afraid smwwrest - They should be maj - Says In Jock is drunk OldGregg - Says In Jock is ridiculously drunk 2blLeg - Who cares? BayouBear - Stomps mudhole in In Jock tnlonghorn - hugs BayouBear BayouBear - hugs tnlonghorn GrecoMan - Huh? RebelsRebelsRebels - Calls out all DII schools 2blLeg - Say what? RebelsRebelsRebels - Calls out all DII schools again! facenthecrowd - Back atcha Rebels RebelsRebelsRebels - Reminds everyone Franklin is a public School 2blLeg - Say what? RebelsRebelsRebels - Answers question with a question facenthecrowd - Because Rebels said so! 2blLeg - Nothing but angels at CBHS Wrestlersdad - Eating popcorn matback - QUIT COMPLAINING! broughtonfan02 - Everybody is recruiting…toss small grenade at BC RebelsRebelsRebels - smidge of crawfishing 2blLeg - I Want The Truth! TheBrave300 - Calls out every DI school maj - Says TheBrave300 is mentally afflicted StevenMcK - agrees facenthecrowd - Says Rebels is mentally afflicted rigger101 - Another worthless Rigger post RebelsRebelsRebels - going to bed broughtonfan02 - In Jock…Just shut up 2blLeg - Makes perfectly clear, In Jock is a Ryan guy broughtonfan02 - Everybody should recruit Sommers - Makes post while high on something…Again. csemary - Wants to know what Sommers is high on. StarRaider - Dale Gribble makes surprise appearance facenthecrowd - Calls Rebel crazy facenthecrowd - Go away Rigger texas23 - says Sommers is mentally afflicted StarRaider - agrees BuckLateral - Really agrees RebelsRebelsRebels - beats a dead horse broughtonfan02 - a few licks on the dead horse PRTiii - Making sure horse is really dead

MAN'S DIVISION Championship Round 1 The Bradley School Ravenwood Science Hill Mt Juliet Cleveland Franklin Collierville Clarksville Championship Round 2 The Bradley School Science Hill Cleveland Clarksville Championship Semi The Bradley School Cleveland 1st-The Bradley School 2nd-Cleveland 3rd-Clarksville 4t-Science Hill MAN'S JUNIOR DIVISION Championship Round 1 Hixson Chattanooga Central Montgomery Central Pigeon Forge Championship Semi Hixson Pigeon Forge 1st-Hixson 2nd-Pigeon Forge 3rd-Greenback 4th-East Literature Magnet JV DIVISION Championship Round 1 Father Ryan McCallie Christian Bros Baylor Championship Semi Father Ryan Christian Bros 1st-Christian Bros 2nd-Father Ryan 3rd-Baylor 4th-MCCallie

Geez. Here you go using facts again. Haven't I proved time and again, facts will destroy a good thread. All the victories run together. It must have been 2007. I was presented a trophy by the Chattanooga branch of the Bearcat Brown Fan Club. Buck - I'm still waiting on you. To make it interesting, if you win I'll save you 2 seats in the Bradley Section during the finals (if BC makes it). I'll also contact the BCB fan club and try to arrange a trophy presentation. I also received a 21 day cruise and the use of a Cadillac for a year. I'll see if those are available to you but, they probably gave those to me because it was me. I'll post my complete picks on the other thread. Good Luck (you'll need it) BB

I only subscribe to the weekend edition of the Times-Free Press so I had to have someone else check the obits and I'm told there was no mention of Bearcat Brown. Therefore, we can only assume he was kidnapped and sold into slavery overseas. This time next week he could possibly be the headline act in a Mongolian desert comedy club performing dog tricks for some Khan. He might have been fortunate enough to be taken to a Cambodian martial arts jungle training center to master the "Come Get Some" style of mixed martial arts. It's also very possible he was buried in a Hixson backyard (by an irate homeowner catching him peeking in his daughters window) and reincarnated as Nick Gulas. Regardless, we should have a period of mourning. About 15 seconds should be long enough. Buck - Since you and I seem to be the most knowledge about wrestling (based on your 2009 Guru title and my 2008 Guru title), it is only fitting we honor the dearly departed Bearcat Brown by going head to head in the 2010 BCB Memorial "Come Get Some" Guru Showdown. Here's my picks; Man's Division (As BCB called it) 1) The Bradley School 2) Cleveland 3) Clarksville 4) Science Hill Man's Junior Division 1) Hixson 2) Pigeon Forge 3) Greenback 4) Chattanooga Central JV Division 1) CBHS 2) Fadder Ryan 3) The Baylor School 4) McCallie