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  1. I have got to agree with Observer here, c'mon man give Em some cred. He is better than Aiden, 12 points better based on their last match. Durdon, this is the exact reason you can not only use national results and have to add in some common sense. Every national tournament bracket is unique and should be weighted differently. Skylar and Howard are great wrestlers, but HWT just has an asterisk next to it in my eyes. Do you really think that Coffee and Howard are better at wrestling than Garrison Dendy? Garrison lost two matches last season, one to Braden Palmer, who at worst is tied for P4P number 1 with Reiniche last year, and the other to Shane Van Ness, the best 132 in the country. I will agree that Kagle probably deserves a spot on the list based on results. I just have not personally watched him wrestle enough to have a strong opinion. Garrison would be 3rd if we had kept studs Chittum and Flynn around; I bet they would've looked good in red. Here is my updated list. Thanks for the input everyone. 1) GARRISON DENDY- SOPHOMORE 138 (RANKED 19TH BY FLO, WITH WINS OVER THE 4TH AND 5TH RANKED GUYS THIS PRESEASON) 2) HORST- SENIOR 132 (CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF HE'S EVER LOST A MATCH TO ANOTHER TENNESSEE KID?) HOPE TO SEE HIM AND ISBELL THIS YEAR. 3) TREY MCDANIEL- JUNIOR 113 (CONSISTENT NATIONAL RESULTS) 4) SKYLAR COFFEE- SENIOR HWT (RANKED 7TH BY FLO) I HOPE HIM AND HOWARD COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER SOMETIME THIS SEASON. 5) JAMES HOWARD- SOPHOMORE HWT (DOUBLE FARGO ALL AMERICAN IN CADETS THIS SUMMER) I GIVE THE EDGE TO COFFEE ON A WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY BASIS. 6) DAVID HARPER- SOPHOMORE 195 (FREAKY ATHLETIC UNDERCLASSMAN) 7) Gavin Kagle- JUNIOR 170 (BETTER THAN WHITWORTH AT WRESTLING *ACCORDING TO DURDON*) 8)ALEX WHITWORTH- JUNIOR 160 (ON THE ROAD TO 5 TITLES) 9) GARRET BOWERS- SENIOR 138 (SOME SOLID NATIONAL PLACING, NOT MANY BIG WINS) 10) Ashton Davis- Sophomore 195 (FARGO ALL AMERICAN AND ATHLETIC UNDERCLASSMAN BIG GUY)
  2. I think my list looked very similar to this at some point when I was making it. I moved guys around a ton before posting. I agree that Mcdaniel and Horst are extremely tough to choose between. I gave Horst, Mcdaniel, Whitworth, and Harper the nod over Skylar just based on wrestling IQ having watched a good bit of all their matches. Thanks for the input!
  3. 1) GARRISON DENDY- SOPHOMORE 138 (RANKED 19TH BY FLO, WITH WINS OVER THE 4TH AND 5TH RANKED GUYS THIS PRESEASON) 2) HORST- SENIOR 132 (CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF HE'S EVER LOST A MATCH TO ANOTHER TENNESSEE KID?) HOPE TO SEE HIM AND ISBELL THIS YEAR. 3) TREY MCDANIEL- JUNIOR 113 (CONSISTENT NATIONAL RESULTS) 4)ALEX WHITWORTH- JUNIOR 160 (ON THE ROAD TO 5 TITLES) 5) DAVID HARPER- SOPHOMORE 195 (FREAKY ATHLETIC UNDERCLASSMAN) 6) SKYLAR COFFEE- SENIOR HWT (RANKED 7TH BY FLO) I HOPE HIM AND HOWARD COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER SOMETIME THIS SEASON. 7) JAMES HOWARD- SOPHOMORE HWT (DOUBLE FARGO ALL AMERICAN IN CADETS THIS SUMMER) I GIVE THE EDGE TO COFFEE ON A WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY BASIS. 8) CHRISTIAN ISBELL-SENIOR 132 (TOUGH SENIOR) HONORABLE MENTION NO ORDER JACKSON BOND (10) BAYLOR TREY BATES (11) BEECH GARRET BOWERS (12) CBHS CONNOR DUFFY (12) BAYLOR BROOKS SACHARCZYK (12) BLACKMAN HUNTER MASON (9) GREENVILLE - IN MY OPINION THE TOUGHEST KID IN THE FRESHMAN CLASS. I BELIEVE HE WILL BE HIGHSCHOOL READY IMMEDIATELY AND POTENTIALLY THE BEST WRESTLER IN A-AA THIS YEAR. My main criteria are who I believe would actually win a match at the same weight class, and strength of wins/national placement. Thoughts?
  4. You are referring to 2012. Michael Murphy placed 2nd at 100 lbs and Ryan Parker won the 157 lb weight class. They were both 8th graders that year.
  5. Baylor had three placers in the elite division at the GFC, a very tough tournament in Lansing Michigan. 7th Place - Noah Horst of Baylor 132 3rd Place - Garrison Dendy of Baylor 140 2nd Place - David Harper of Baylor 189
  6. We also have 4 wrestlers on the 2022 big board. 28th James Howard (Mccallie) 70th David Harper (Baylor) 90th Garrison Dendy (Baylor) 94th Porter Faulk (Baylor) I believe David Harper and Garrison Dendy would be much higher had they competed in Freshman nationals last year. Also I do not believe Hunter Mason could make 113. I would expect to see him at 126 or maybe 120 this year. It would be interesting to the see him and Trey Bates compete in division 1 this year, if they were at the same weight.
  7. Great info, will update as more comes in. Definitely need to put Howard up in that number 1 spot at hwt. That being said Ryan Jackson will be a tough test for him. Emory going to be at 26? Also Whitworth at 60 means cagle at 170?
  8. D2 Preseason Rankings Obviously it is very unclear what weight these guys will compete at this coming season. Here is my best guess for each weight class. Jackson Bond of Baylor is one in particular that I am curious to see what weight he chooses as he was a very large 106 last year. McCallie has a bit of a log jam with Braman, Morris, and Taylor. I believe Taylor will force Morris up to 32 as Horst is a terrible matchup for him. If Garrett Bowers does return to 138 I look forward to a match or two with him and Dendy. Jacorey Miller, if he returns to 145, will definitely be the favorite to win. I would expect Whitworth to stay at 152 in order to leave room for the addition of Cagle to McCallie's lineup. at 182, given they are both there Connor Duffy and Parker Peterson should be a very exciting series of matches to follow this season as Baylor sees Father Ryan multiple times most years. If you have any info on what weights these guys may end up at please reply. 103 1) Nick Corday (Bay) 2) Keyveon Roller (CAK) 113 1) Dayne Dalrymple (CBHS) 2) Brooks McAfee (FRHS) 3) Kade Hartline (Bay) 120 1) Jack Braman (Mcc) 2) Jackson Bond (Bay) 3) Calvin Eason (FR) 126 1) Emory Taylor (Mcc) 2) Aiden Bowers (CBHS) 3) Thomas Wesnofske (FR) 4) Micah Tisdale (Bay) 132 1) Noah Horst (Bay) 2) Evan Anthony (CBHS) 3) Christian Morris (Mcc) 4) Sean Pitts (FR) 138 1) Garrison Dendy (Bay) 2) Garrett Bowers (CBHS) 3) Zachary Ward (Mcc) 145 1) Jacorey Miller (FR) 2) Anthony Manella (Bay) 152 1) Alex Whitworth (Mcc) 2) Lawrence Madson (FR) 160 1) Gavin Cagle (Mcc) 2) Omaury Alverez (Bay) 170 1) Porter Faulk (Bay) 2) Russel Barry (Mcc) 182 1) Connor Duffy (Bay) 2) Parker Peterson (FR) 3) Theo Sewell (CBHS) 195 1) David Harper (Bay) 2) Chase Looper (Mcc) 220 1) Al Wooten (CBHS) HWT 1) Ryan Jackson (Freindship Christian)
  9. Amazing thread, I did not go through the whole thing, but one thing is still true from the first page. Shane Turner is still one of the Gold Standard for coaching in TN. The Baylor School is incredibly lucky to have them. They really have an all star staff at this time. I would love to see Shane utilized by whoever takes over the chairman position for USA wrestling in this state (Fingers crossed Mike Hatcher is interested).
  10. The schools in the best states compete against private schools with similar situations to what you are describing. I think Baylor potentially making a jump to the next level is one of the best things that could happen to Tennessee wrestling. Cleveland is well on their way to getting over that hump as well. We must continue to seek out progress in order to catch the states that are ahead of us. With the sport changing so much in the country now is the time for us to embrace change and make a jump as a state. With the economic and population growth in Nashville and Murfreesboro those schools will benefit from wrestling clubs that I believe will start popping up, like what has happened in Atlanta and the impact its had on Georgia wrestling. FR will always find a way to compete. On the note of where they may be nationally ranked, I agree with barbwire to an extent. It is going to be difficult to break the top 25, but they should be making their way into the top 50 for sure. Where they fall will definitely depend on their schedule. Cleveland was right inside the top 50 last year and if Baylor can crack into it this year it will be great for Tennessee wrestling.
  11. I am really excited to see Belcher this season. He is a stud. I would love to see the Bears back on top. I am looking forward their season opener with Baylor. This is a must see dual if you are a wrestling fan in TN. While I think Baylor is definitely favored in the dual, there should be some great individual match ups. Is Belcher going to be at 120? As far as transfers go I believe Kagle from CAK is going to be at McCallie this coming season.
  12. This is great info! I am a big fan of Science Hill and their staff. I would love to see a non traditional powerhouse like Science Hill find their way to the number 1 spot in AAA.
  13. Maybe I just miss you guys, but I would like to see who everyone thinks will have the most horsepower next season so I am going to list my WAY TOO EARLY team rankings. All divisions, because that's what actually matters. 1) Baylor 2) Cleveland 3) McCallie 5) Wilson Central (tied) 5) Bradley (tied) This is my best guess. Baylor and McCallie have both added some studs this offseason. With what Cleveland graduated, McCallie may have a chance at taking that number two spot, but its hard to bet against Cleveland. WC and Bradley should both be solid. I believe Bradley has a strong 8th grade class. Who is adding studs to their lineup? Who is going to be the team to beat next year? Let me know!
  14. I believe a majority of the money raised for RTC South to be able to operate and have a coach the caliber of Dan Dennis was done by the Chattanooga Wrestling Club and their support network. They are saving a lot of money by being able to work in conjunction with UTC wrestling which creates a training opportunity for their athletes who are competing in U-23 and Senior level competition. A majority of the RTCs around the country are based out of and funded by a Division 1 wrestling programs. That being said, another RTC could be opened in Memphis, Nashville, or Murfreesboro if the support was there. The criteria link is attached below. Congrats to our boys who represented TN, GA, and RTC SOUTH at Fargo! http://content.themat.com/CoachesCorner/RTC-criteria.pdf
  15. Junior Freestyle113 – Kolin Koss 120 – Cooper Flynn 126 – Emory Taylor138 – Christian Isbell 152 – Nathanael Schilling, Antonio Washington170 – Mason Reiniche195 – Brooks Sacharczyk Junior Greco-Roman113 – Kolin Koss 120 – Cooper Flynn 126 – Emory Taylor138 – Christian Isbell 152 – Nathanael Schilling, Antonio Washington170 – Mason Reiniche195 – Brooks Sacharczyk Junior Women106 – Destiny Shelton122 – Isabella Badon127 – Robin Yunis132 – Emma Walker16U Freestyle94 – Bentley Ellison106 – Arlo Laxton113 – Trae McDaniel, Hudson Daniel Sims, Brayden Ivy120 – James Dalrymple, Hunter Mason138 – Cody Chittum, Aiden Bowers170 – Gervacio Gonzalez195 – Ashton Davis, Parker Petersen285 – James Howard16U Greco-Roman94 – Bentley Ellison106 – Arlo Laxton113 – Trae McDaniel, Hudson Daniel Sims120 – James Dalrymple, Hunter Mason138 – Cody Chittum, Aiden Bowers170 – Gervacio Gonzalez195 – Ashton Davis285 – James Howard16U Women94 – Avery Kibelbek2018 16U All-Americans: Trey McDaniel (GR/FS), Cody Chittum (GR/FS), Cooper Flynn (FS)FloRankings: Trey McDaniel (No. 19 at 113)National Girls Rankings: Isabella Badon (No. 16 at 117), Emma Walker (No. 7 at 132), A pretty solid group. Good luck to all competing!
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