Brentwood@Prattville,Alabama*ESPNU

[PBandJ]

someone give this man a cigar!! I just love how all of the public schools yell that the privates recruit when you presented that very ineresteing fact above.... sounds like recruiting to me. Until Maryville steps up and beats a high qualtiy team, people need to stop spitting out wins and losses numbers..... I mean, Goodpasture goes undefeated every year until they play a quality team on Alcoa, and they get RAPED!!! I believe the same would happen to Maryville. I also find it interesting how Maryville can go undefeated all these and still not be #1 in the state?!?!?!

 

Just to add fuel to your fire ... you do realize that Alcoa has the same advantage that Maryville has, right? They are also a "city school" that has roughly 1/4th of their student body "paying" tuition to attend from outside the city limits. Yes, that means they could live outside the city or outside the county or outside the state (if someone wanted to commute that far).

 

What is it that makes Maryville and Alcoa so great? Tradition, coaching genius, mutant sized studs ... nope, an extreme advantage that is so overwhelming clear that no one can see if for all the crying about private schools. /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" />

 

You will notice that once the discussion turned to the "real why" of Maryville's success it has been nothing but crickets on this thread from the Maryville faithful.

[OddsMaster]

Right. I don't see a Riverdale, Smyrna (the last two years), or any of the Williamson County schools on that list. I do agree - Maryville is as strong as they come in 4A. But you'll always be a brides maid or 2nd fiddle or whatever you want to call them until you step up where you belong and play the real big boys. /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" />

 

An interesting piece of the article that is mentioned above is that 1/4th of the student body lives outside of the Maryville city school zone and pays tuition to attend. Hmmm ... I should hope you would whip up on your 4A brethren with an advantage like that. Just about anyone could be a GQ coaching genius with that type of advantage. /roflolk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflolk:" border="0" alt="roflolk.gif" />

 

Back to the topic at hand, I believe the BA/Prattville game will be very competitive. I think some will be surprised at the strength of football in the state of TN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want to talk about stepping up and playing with the REAL BIG BOYS, then why doesn't Riverdale & Smyrna step up to D-II and see how many State Titles they can win? Or play some BIG NAME TEAMS outside the state? Ever time that I can recall RHS or SHS playing BA they've lost and that's just one team from D-II. I'd like to see them play BA, MBA, and several other D-II teams every year. Besides, SHS hasn't been all that great other than the past two years which looked more like a lucky run to me than anything. (It's not like they went undefeated. They were 13-2 & 12-3.)

 

At least SHS did play BA last year (and lost) and will be playing them again this year (and losing.)

 

That should at least let us all know how SHS might fair if they stepped it up and played outside the state like BA does.

 

So now let me quote you by saying, "You'll always be a bride's maid or 2nd fiddle or whatever you want to call them until you step up where you belong and play the real big boys."

 

What do you think about that WISEGUY?

[OddsMaster]

You have to be kidding. This is the same Maryville that ducks and covers from joining 5A. That's rich! /roflol.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflol:" border="0" alt="roflol.gif" /> /roflol.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflol:" border="0" alt="roflol.gif" />

 

 

 

Well, well, well, looks like Maryville isn't ducking any more. Starting next year, they are going to step up to the new 6-A class.

[NoGwinBuzz]

Getting back somewhat on topic...North Gwinnett had a televised preseason game last year at Prattville and got trounced. North Gwinnett went on to lose in the Class AAAAA to Lowndes County. Last year's Lowndes team was the best HS football team I have ever seen. Loaded. I saw Maryville at last year's state championship in Murfreesboro. I would love to see Maryville make a visit down here and play us, Buford University (Class AA state champs) Warner Robbins or Lowndes. Some talent for sure.

[OddsMaster]

FYI,

 

Prattville lost to St. X 15-10 in Ohio.

 

MBA beat Moeller 21-6 in Ohio.

[BCsportsfan]

Just to add fuel to your fire ... you do realize that Alcoa has the same advantage that Maryville has, right? They are also a "city school" that has roughly 1/4th of their student body "paying" tuition to attend from outside the city limits. Yes, that means they could live outside the city or outside the county or outside the state (if someone wanted to commute that far).

 

What is it that makes Maryville and Alcoa so great? Tradition, coaching genius, mutant sized studs ... nope, an extreme advantage that is so overwhelming clear that no one can see if for all the crying about private schools. /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" />

 

You will notice that once the discussion turned to the "real why" of Maryville's success it has been nothing but crickets on this thread from the Maryville faithful.

 

 

 

Oh PB&J brains has been spewing BS again /roflolk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflolk:" border="0" alt="roflolk.gif" /> Yes, Alcoa and Maryville are open zone, like a lot of other schools in TN. Yes, student "could" pay tutition and attend Alcoa or Maryville. The other High school systems in Blount County are William Blount and Heritage, the two county 5A schools. Alcoa with an Enrollment of less than 450 students is a 2A school. Maryville will compete at 6A next year. In `2007 Maryville and Alcoa won state championships, William Blount went deep into the playoffs.

 

So, IF Alcoa AND Maryville are pulling ALL the talent from Blount County into their school to have an advantage, then how can the others schools in Blount County even break .500% win percent year in and year out??????

 

I mean if Alcoa gets all the "mutant sized studs" then how is there ANY talent or good players to go to Maryville? If Maryville get ALL the great players out of the County, then how does Alcoa still win a state championship year after year. If Alcoa and Maryville gets ALL the great players. then how does William Blount have a chance to have a team, yet alone a team that went deep into the playoff last year?? People outside Blount County don't get it! Alcoa and Maryville beats teams by taking average players out of their own area, and teaching them to play the game. /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" />

 

"1/4th of their student body "paying" tuition to attend from outside the city limits. " Pure BS! Both Maryville and Alcoa are at capacity and are not taking "tutition students" last year and this year. Don't believe it.............try to get your kid into either of these schools, if you live out side of the city limits. It's not going to happen. The percent tutition is no where close to 25%.

 

You will never see Alcoa or Maryville crying about Private schools............IF we can keep them on the schedule. Alcoa scheduled McCallie in 2005 and 2006. Alcoa beat them both years. Alcoa wanted to keep the series going, but McCallie had enough! /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

 

The "real why" .......................come spend some time in Blount County and you'll Know what makes a championship football team AND what crickets really sound like city boy. /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

[the_den]

is there a qb controversy at BA? Sophomore Hamby starts for injured starter. wins. started comesback they lose to ravenwood by 1

[jlmac4]

Prattville snatched the torch from Hoover and dominated 6A Alabama for 2 years with a record of 31-0. Its bad timing for them to go to Ohio this year just like it was for Hoover last year. Prattville graduated a boat load of players and their head coach moved on to college ball. They will be very young going into this game and X has some advantages:home field, and they will have played a preseason game and a regular season rival game vs Prattville's lone preseason game. But it still won't be a cake walk for X, PHS will give they all they want and their defense is still rated among the best in 6A Alabama.

 

The St. X team that recently defeated a VERY STOUT Prattville lost 75 SENIORS last year, returning only 4 starters, with question marks everywhere. It was as good a time as any to play St. X.

[Aquaman_DHS]

The game went as I thought it would. Prattville's youth showed its face on offense but the D played well as expected.Also, Prattville didn't play a preseason game becouse of the storm and X played a preseason plus a regular season game.

[OddsMaster]

The St. X team that recently defeated a VERY STOUT Prattville lost 75 SENIORS last year, returning only 4 starters, with question marks everywhere. It was as good a time as any to play St. X.

 

 

 

Your comment makes it sound as if St. X lost their entire team.

 

The fact is that they lose about the same number of players every year.

 

This year they have 64 Seniors and 60 Juniors.

 

How many High School football teams do you know of with 124 players and (Get This) made up entirely of Juniors and Seniors?

 

Most High School teams have about half that many players and they are made up of 9th, 10th, 11th, & 12th-graders.

 

Teams like St. X are NOT fazed by losing 75-players. They have just as good, if NOT better, players waiting in line for their turn.

 

You should read the book, "Friday Night Lights." Then you'd understand how top High School programs reload every year.

 

 

By the way, St. X has 119 players on their Freshman Team this year.

[jlmac4]

Your comment makes it sound as if St. X lost their entire team.

 

The fact is that they lose about the same number of players every year.

 

This year they have 64 Seniors and 60 Juniors.

 

How many High School football teams do you know of with 124 players and (Get This) made up entirely of Juniors and Seniors?

 

Most High School teams have about half that many players and they are made up of 9th, 10th, 11th, & 12th-graders.

 

Teams like St. X are NOT fazed by losing 75-players. They have just as good, if NOT better, players waiting in line for their turn.

 

You should read the book, "Friday Night Lights." Then you'd understand how top High School programs reload every year.

By the way, St. X has 119 players on their Freshman Team this year.

 

I've read the book, watched the movie. I spent 40 years in Ohio. Played h.s. ball, followed h.s. football in Ohio and nationally for well over half of that time. I believe I "understand" how high school football programs reload. It's not done by sheer numbers....it's the PROGRAM they're in. They could suit up all 1173 boys in the school and not have a better team than they have now. Numbers are overrated, as I have seen many smaller teams number wise defeat bigger teams over the years. X was returning 4 starters, had their best OT and WR out with injury/illness, QB playing in 1st game back from an aggravated foot injury(basketball), no RB returning with significant game experience, and a whole lot of question marks on both sides of the ball. Most of those 124 upperclassmen had little to no gametime varsity experience, and will never see any. It WAS as good a time as any to play X. If you know Ohio football, you know they have only recently been a top team in Ohio. Many D1 teams with much more history than them. They had no advantage numbers wise, as Prattville dresses 143(10-12), more than most colleges dress if you want to talk numbers. You're only going to get your best 11 on the field at a time. Period. Example: In '02, D5(D6 is smallest classification)Delphos St. Johns(Oh) played my alma matter in the state semifinals. They had 121 boys(10-12). 119 were on the football team. Multiple state titles. We dressed 45-50, had never been to the title game. When the game was over, they went home, we went on to the title game. Coach stated he was confident going in to the game that the opponents 22 starters were'nt better than his 22 starters, and would not get caught up in "the numbers". The only advantage, and it's slight when you're talking numbers is substitution/fresh legs/depth. It's not like X can go 2 or 3 deep at any position and put the same caliber of player on the field. Some of your subs are going to be better on a bigger team vs smaller, but for the most part, you win with your 22 starters, and each team is only allowed 22 no matter the classification. The population you are pulling from in your area vs your opponent's is more of an advantage than how many are actually dressed.

[KingofdaJungle]

The game went as I thought it would. Prattville's youth showed its face on offense but the D played well as expected.Also, Prattville didn't play a preseason game becouse of the storm and X played a preseason plus a regular season game.

 

 

 

Being a PrattVegas homer, I'll be careful not to ruffle any mountain feathers here. I'm grateful for the respect your thread has for our team, so I want to extend the same.

 

Prattville's issue offensively isn't really youth so much as inexperience. QB Sam Gibson is a JR but hasn't played football for 2 yrs until this season and our O line, even though there are 3 Srs is not all that well-seasoned. Only Quay Moncrief returns as a starting WR, leaving many skill positions in limbo. That said, these boys are growing up fast & they are very talented. When the lights DO come on, Prattville will be EXTREMELY tough to beat.

 

Our defense may be the best HS defense I've ever seen, and they can win games by themselves if necessary. We have pitched 2 shutouts since the game in OH, and look for another tonight. Most key players on D are Srs (Alex Page, L'alo Albright, Zach Brownell, Anthony Holland, Octavious Gilbert), so our REAL rebuilding year will be next year.

 

As far as the game vs St X goes, we really needed the game against Oxford to prep. I think the outcome may have been different if we'd had just that one week of live fire before making the trip.

 

I hope some of you can make the trip south to The Jungle - we love our football here and I think you'll enjoy being here.