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Correct me if I am wrong, but very few if any coaches are still coaching the position that they intiated their career with. How smart is it to have an offensive coordinator who is not familiar with the inner workings of the offensive line? What kind of offensive coordinator would one be if he couldn't coach a receiver to run a dig or wheel?Most if not all coaches/coordinators have coached other positions, and sports for that matter, this is the "well-roundedness" that you should find in a successful coach.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do not know the success record of your current offensive coordinator. From what I can tell, the people who post on this forum are unhappy with his progress. My question centered on the improvement of a staff. If the O. C. is the problem (and I don't know that to be true), why not seek a proven successful O.C.? Why promote from within on a staff you are unhappy with? Why turn the offense over to a D-Line coach (as listed in the program), when there could be quality, experienced candidates out there? Who was interviewed when your current OC got the job? Maybe one of the guys you turned down would have been a better fit? There is always time to correct a mistake if you feel as a head coach you have made one. Ultimately for those in the know at Halls, is your head coach unhappy? If he isn't, all of our discussion is for nothing.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but very few if any coaches are still coaching the position that they intiated their career with. How smart is it to have an offensive coordinator who is not familiar with the inner workings of the offensive line? What kind of offensive coordinator would one be if he couldn't coach a receiver to run a dig or wheel?Most if not all coaches/coordinators have coached other positions, and sports for that matter, this is the "well-roundedness" that you should find in a successful coach.

 

 

Redbyrd, do you have any knowledge about Halls? If so, does the OC have the well-roundedness several have been talking about? Can he coach every position on the offensive side of the ball with a working knowledge of each position?

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Someone asked who would you hire for the person to head the offense. What about the head coach? Why couldnt KJ coach the entire offense passing game? I now he is the head defense man but going 4-6 he better put on another hat and call the plays on offense. I have said this many times before!

Haveityourway, I think a college OC like Fulmer is differnet then a HS OC. College coach's dont teach do bus duty, homeroom, etc. All they do is football, 24-7.

Piatt, Why would you ask is the head coach is happy? Are you kidding me? KJ has the job that ever Halls graduate that coach's wants, to be the man at there school.

redbyrd84, what is a dig/wheel for a wr. I think a wheel used to be called a out and go or something like that, but you got me on the dig part.

bigtonykilyou, I beleive you bring up a good point. I think a DC/OC should be able to coach ever position on that side of the ball. I allso believe the head ought to be able to coach ever position.

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Someone asked who would you hire for the person to head the offense. What about the head coach? Why couldnt KJ coach the entire offense passing game? I now he is the head defense man but going 4-6 he better put on another hat and call the plays on offense. I have said this many times before!

Haveityourway, I think a college OC like Fulmer is differnet then a HS OC. College coach's dont teach do bus duty, homeroom, etc. All they do is football, 24-7.

Piatt, Why would you ask is the head coach is happy? Are you kidding me? KJ has the job that ever Halls graduate that coach's wants, to be the man at there school.

redbyrd84, what is a dig/wheel for a wr. I think a wheel used to be called a out and go or something like that, but you got me on the dig part.

bigtonykilyou, I beleive you bring up a good point. I think a DC/OC should be able to coach ever position on that side of the ball. I allso believe the head ought to be able to coach ever position.

 

 

I can help you out with the routes he described. The wheel is your typical out and up or out and go that you described. A dig route is a variation of the curl route really. It's more of a precise deep in where the WR sits down in the window that opens between LBs or LB and SS.

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My question about the head coach being happy was concerning the OC's job? If your head coach is happy about the job of the OC it doesn't matter what I think or you or anybody else. Changes will not be made and your offense will look similiar to the way it was run last year. The true gage of change for a team centers around the desire of the head coach to make change. If he is happy with the status quo, things will not change no matter how many posts are on Coach T or anywhere else.

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Shows how much I remember. I thought a hook route was one that split the linebacks. Don't they run a hook route anymore?

Piatt, Now I understand what you were talking about. I just could not believe KJ was not happy being at Halls.

 

 

I think it's just a matter of semantics. I teach my linebackers to go from hook to curl and curl to flat going from inside backers to outside, that is when I don't just bring more than the offense can block and man up on the outside.

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I can help you out with the routes he described. The wheel is your typical out and up or out and go that you described. A dig route is a variation of the curl route really. It's more of a precise deep in where the WR sits down in the window that opens between LBs or LB and SS.

 

 

 

A dig rout is ok, but in an offense that throws as little as you all say Halls does then it is very dangerous. Slant/Wheel is a much higher percentage throw...especially when combined with slant and outs to get the corner sitting on the out route...the out goes up...and uh oh...CB getting yelled at for giving up a ton of yardage...we love the slant combined with the wheel when used at the right time. Dig is good over top of a drag...that way the windows are open, and can stay open because the LB's are held in place by the shallow crosser in front of them...the dig is deadly vs. man...because the WR continues to run vs. man, all the way across the field if needed.

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