No more Matman rankings?

[MVM]

Robert Boebert is Robert Armstrong of Kenwood. Ranked 3rd, placed 5th. He changed his name, but it is the same guy.

 

Changed his name???

 

Is he in the BCB witness protection program?

[pimpinshane92]

This really did start as something i did for fun. That was also a time when coaches would send in results and you didn't have to do half of the digging that you have to do now. With the amount of parents, coaches, and fans that would rather not participate, and the amount of complaints about them, would the wrestling community rather not have them? I totally understand either way, and please feel free to speak freely. I'd just like to put it to a vote.

 

 

 

I think that we should keep the rankings it gives us wrestlers something to work for. I'm not up there and i have done well against some ppl that are up there, but u dont see me taking it personaly. I am just gonna work harder so that i can prove the rankings wrong when i beat the people on top of the list.

[Olerestler]

Great dicussions, I see good and bad in the rankings. I support doing away with the rankings and maybe simply post the individuals high school record. It is factual data, not a opinion. Granted, people will argue who's schedule is tougher, but that's ok, it will get sorted out at the larger tournaments thru the season and ultimately in Chatanooga.

[StarRaider]

Robert Boebert is Robert Armstrong of Kenwood. Ranked 3rd, placed 5th. He changed his name, but it is the same guy.

 

 

Thanks from the CRT, correction made.

[BravesFan]

Keep the rankings. Thanks for all the time and hard work that go into them. I think they are a quick and easy way for ex-wrestlers, parents, and fans to keep up with what's going on in Tennessee wrestling.

[2blLeg]

Great dicussions, I see good and bad in the rankings. I support doing away with the rankings and maybe simply post the individuals high school record. It is factual data, not a opinion. Granted, people will argue who's schedule is tougher, but that's ok, it will get sorted out at the larger tournaments thru the season and ultimately in Chatanooga.

 

 

Again, FACTS are the only way to go. Too much personal opinion involved here, and if someone likes one kid more than another, that will effect how the "rankings" are done, and this in turns effects how the kid is looked upon by others.

[bear cat brown]

Again, FACTS are the only way to go. Too much personal opinion involved here, and if someone likes one kid more than another, that will effect how the "rankings" are done, and this in turns effects how the kid is looked upon by others.

 

 

 

If there is no personal opinion, then there can be no rankings. Most of the ranked rasslers have not grappled with each other, so how do you propose to put them in order, maybe by height, or ACT scores for the Juniors and Seniors?

 

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[2blLeg]

If there is no personal opinion, then there can be no rankings. Most of the ranked rasslers have not grappled with each other, so how do you propose to put them in order, maybe by height, or ACT scores for the Juniors and Seniors.

 

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Opinion based on facts yes, opinions based on personalities NO

[jakesdad]

Opinion based on facts yes, opinions based on personalities NO

 

 

 

Are you saying that the current rankings are based on the kid's personalities? I think the guys currently doing the rankings spend hours and hours digging through facts...head to head match ups, common opponent results, number of pins, techs, etc. When facts don't support how the kids need to be ranked, an opinion would seem to be a necessity. 2blLeg, you have respectfully expressed opposition to the rankings, yet you have not offered any specific suggestions for improvement. Simply saying the rankings should be based on facts alone is noble, but not the least bit suggestive or helpful. Could you offer a specific example...i.e. your ranking for a specific weight class?

[ru4mocs]

I know I check the rankings, looking ahead to see if #2 is wrestling # 3 etc, etc.

 

I think the guys doing the rankings do a great job.

 

I only had a problem with ranking wrestlers at weights they had not wrestled.

 

By the way, Graham will be at 135 the rest of the year.

[8020]

If there is no personal opinion, then there can be no rankings. Most of the ranked rasslers have not grappled with each other, so how do you propose to put them in order, maybe by height, or ACT scores for the Juniors and Seniors?

 

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BC, you are correct. The wrestlers want the opportunity to wrestle the best. When a ranked walks into a gym, things are more buzzed. A person wants what can make him important and that's the dud with the RANK.

[2blLeg]

Are you saying that the current rankings are based on the kid's personalities? I think the guys currently doing the rankings spend hours and hours digging through facts...head to head match ups, common opponent results, number of pins, techs, etc. When facts don't support how the kids need to be ranked, an opinion would seem to be a necessity. 2blLeg, you have respectfully expressed opposition to the rankings, yet you have not offered any specific suggestions for improvement. Simply saying the rankings should be based on facts alone is noble, but not the least bit suggestive or helpful. Could you offer a specific example...i.e. your ranking for a specific weight class?

 

 

Hold on now, jakesdad, I do not; nor have I, ever expressed opposition against the rankings. I said I do like them, and it helps me learn the other kids from around the state.

 

My suggestions have been to rank the kids only where they wrestle. By ranking them in a lower weight class, where they have yet to compete, is done mainly by opinion and is not fair to those kids that have wrestled in that class. Rankings should be done based on head to head, record and strength of schedule, wrestling up in class, and those same factors taken into consideration whey they do.

 

My other points have been that to all the other adults (not the ones doing the rankings) that the kids take this very seriously, so don't say it's only for fun.

 

Now, does that help explain my position on where I stand?