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Parents I (Greg Ledbetter) asked two girls from the 8th grade team to come up and play with the high school...THIS WAS REQUESTED BY THEIR COACH, PERRY HULL. Not Joe Lee and not Greg Ledbetter...Perry Hull.

 

The reason they were asked to play up because of other girls who did track for Lenoir City. Who could NOT make it to the games until late. That left the coach with only 7 players.

 

The high school team played in 4 games tonight because of prom tomorrow.

 

Parents, if you are scared of competition then your KIDS will have a rough life in this dog eat dog world. We have some of the best coaches around, period.

 

High School- Perry Hull- Seqyouah HS 25 years experience as Head Coach

13s- Joe Lee, 30 some odd years of experience and has won 70% of his AAU games in the last 6 years.

12s- Mike Guillimet, 10 years of experience HS, Greenback, Seqyuoah & Kingston

11s- Josh Brannon, Admit- One year experience at Vonore Middle school, but came in 2nd in his district and winning the JV Monroe county tournament....unlimited potential and will be invited back AS LONG AS I'm around.

9s- Greg Ledbetter (no coach I've been told), but has coached numerous AAU teams beside Wendys, Lenoir City fall league for 10 years (winning the tournament once) assisted by Brad Miller, assistant coach for Lenoir City Middle School for 3 years.

 

These coaches coach for 3 months and get paid on average of $400 a month, $100 a week...they practice twice a week and drive to the tournaments just like everyone else. You think they are pocketing much money...it basically covers there travel expensives.

 

No one wants Lenoir City to be successful more than I do...I'm extremely proud of what our Lenoir/North Middle schools have accomplished the last couple of years....I would like to hope some of this is due to the Wendy's Elite program....keep in mind, if I didn't care, then I would just get you parents who are complaining to coach the teams since you know sooooo much about basketball and are definately more qualified than the BOZOs I have now....

 

Oh yeah, since I only care about "lining" our pockets...we have games allll day tomorrow and for $5 you can come and see how bad we treat LC kids.

 

One more thing, if you think Coach Perry Hull is a puppet and does what Joe Lee tells him to do then you don't know Perry Hull....one of the strongest personailites this side of the Mississippi. HE COACHES HIS TEAM THE WAY HE WANTS...PERIOD...IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME...ASK HIM.

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Parents I (Greg Ledbetter) asked two girls from the 8th grade team to come up and play with the high school...THIS WAS REQUESTED BY THEIR COACH, PERRY HULL. Not Joe Lee and not Greg Ledbetter...Perry Hull.

 

The reason they were asked to play up because of other girls who did track for Lenoir City. Who could NOT make it to the games until late. That left the coach with only 7 players.

 

The high school team played in 4 games tonight because of prom tomorrow.

 

Parents, if you are scared of competition then your KIDS will have a rough life in this dog eat dog world. We have some of the best coaches around, period.

 

High School- Perry Hull- Seqyouah HS 25 years experience as Head Coach

13s- Joe Lee, 30 some odd years of experience and has won 70% of his AAU games in the last 6 years.

12s- Mike Guillimet, 10 years of experience HS, Greenback, Seqyuoah & Kingston

11s- Josh Brannon, Admit- One year experience at Vonore Middle school, but came in 2nd in his district and winning the JV Monroe county tournament....unlimited potential and will be invited back AS LONG AS I'm around.

9s- Greg Ledbetter (no coach I've been told), but has coached numerous AAU teams beside Wendys, Lenoir City fall league for 10 years (winning the tournament once) assisted by Brad Miller, assistant coach for Lenoir City Middle School for 3 years.

 

These coaches coach for 3 months and get paid on average of $400 a month, $100 a week...they practice twice a week and drive to the tournaments just like everyone else. You think they are pocketing much money...it basically covers there travel expensives.

 

No one wants Lenoir City to be successful more than I do...I'm extremely proud of what our Lenoir/North Middle schools have accomplished the last couple of years....I would like to hope some of this is due to the Wendy's Elite program....keep in mind, if I didn't care, then I would just get you parents who are complaining to coach the teams since you know sooooo much about basketball and are definately more qualified than the BOZOs I have now....

 

Oh yeah, since I only care about "lining" our pockets...we have games allll day tomorrow and for $5 you can come and see how bad we treat LC kids.

 

One more thing, if you think Coach Perry Hull is a puppet and does what Joe Lee tells him to do then you don't know Perry Hull....one of the strongest personailites this side of the Mississippi. HE COACHES HIS TEAM THE WAY HE WANTS...PERIOD...IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME...ASK HIM.

 

I believe there are 4 girls from the 8th grade team playing on the high school team too. 2 of those girls run track for their middle school. If you needed more high school players, why not post your need for players? Do all the 8th grade girls play on two of your teams? Sure does give them a lot of experience, and the high school aged players less. You have to see why the people posting comments are a little angry. It does not seem like a fair practice.

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Parents I (Greg Ledbetter) asked two girls from the 8th grade team to come up and play with the high school...THIS WAS REQUESTED BY THEIR COACH, PERRY HULL. Not Joe Lee and not Greg Ledbetter...Perry Hull.

 

The reason they were asked to play up because of other girls who did track for Lenoir City. Who could NOT make it to the games until late. That left the coach with only 7 players.

 

The high school team played in 4 games tonight because of prom tomorrow.

 

Parents, if you are scared of competition then your KIDS will have a rough life in this dog eat dog world. We have some of the best coaches around, period.

 

High School- Perry Hull- Seqyouah HS 25 years experience as Head Coach

13s- Joe Lee, 30 some odd years of experience and has won 70% of his AAU games in the last 6 years.

12s- Mike Guillimet, 10 years of experience HS, Greenback, Seqyuoah & Kingston

11s- Josh Brannon, Admit- One year experience at Vonore Middle school, but came in 2nd in his district and winning the JV Monroe county tournament....unlimited potential and will be invited back AS LONG AS I'm around.

9s- Greg Ledbetter (no coach I've been told), but has coached numerous AAU teams beside Wendys, Lenoir City fall league for 10 years (winning the tournament once) assisted by Brad Miller, assistant coach for Lenoir City Middle School for 3 years.

 

These coaches coach for 3 months and get paid on average of $400 a month, $100 a week...they practice twice a week and drive to the tournaments just like everyone else. You think they are pocketing much money...it basically covers there travel expensives.

 

No one wants Lenoir City to be successful more than I do...I'm extremely proud of what our Lenoir/North Middle schools have accomplished the last couple of years....I would like to hope some of this is due to the Wendy's Elite program....keep in mind, if I didn't care, then I would just get you parents who are complaining to coach the teams since you know sooooo much about basketball and are definately more qualified than the BOZOs I have now....

 

Oh yeah, since I only care about "lining" our pockets...we have games allll day tomorrow and for $5 you can come and see how bad we treat LC kids.

 

One more thing, if you think Coach Perry Hull is a puppet and does what Joe Lee tells him to do then you don't know Perry Hull....one of the strongest personailites this side of the Mississippi. HE COACHES HIS TEAM THE WAY HE WANTS...PERIOD...IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME...ASK HIM.

 

Bottom line is, Wendy's has let all the talent go to other teams due to the fact that they play in local tournaments against the same teams and they are not an AAU team. You will never get better playing at the Wendy's level and people have slowly caught on.The coach of the HS girls made a huge mistake asking those girls to move up, not one is ready for the level played at in HS. LC girls are once again looking at a very long season.

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Two things:

 

1) This is not a thread about LCHS girls basketball. This thread is designed to attack Coach Lee. It needs to be directed to the people that do the hiring of coaches at Lenoir City and not aired out here.

 

2) The discussion of how the Wendy's Elite AAU program runs their business needs to be taken to the girls AAU board.

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I have spoken to MOST of the Lenoir City girls who play for other AAU teams and let them know that we miss them not playing for us, I sincerely mean this....EVERY SINGLE girl that I spoke with said " I WISH, I COULD STILL PLAY FOR WENDY'S"....every single one....I spoke to 4 girls on Friday while I was setting up the gym for our tournament.

 

Now...who's making that decision, that's not allowing the girls to play for the team they want??? I'm starting to figure out it's not the kids.

 

I'm not a parent myself, but I can understand how some of the parents are thinking and wanting the best for their child, but you need to let your child decide on what team they want to play for.

 

Wendy's Elite will never be what is considered an "AAU" elite team....that's not we are trying to accomplish from this program. The original intent was to allow all girls from Lenoir City to be apart of an AAU/spring team so we can make everyone, NOT JUST THE ELITE PLAYERS, better at basketball. Just because your daughter doesn't play every game or play as much as you like doesn't mean she doesn't have the chance to prove herself everyday in practice.

 

We have beat many and numerous hand pick AAU teams over the years. I believe some of the parents have been feed to much BULL about what people are calling "exposure" tournaments...how many college coaches are looking at freshman and sophs??? Get real.....I'm promise if your daughter can play then college coaches will know about her.

 

For the people who are upset about letting an 8th grader play up with the high school team during our AAU then what are you going to do about next year? Have you thought about that? These 8th graders are hungry wanting to prove themselves, you better make sure your child is up to the challenge.

 

BTW- All you Joe Lee haters, his 13 & under team made it to the finals tomorrow...pretty good for an old man, who's allowed the game to pass him bye. For $5 you can come and "boo" him. ...hope to see you there. Greg....

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I have spoken to MOST of the Lenoir City girls who play for other AAU teams and let them know that we miss them not playing for us, I sincerely mean this....EVERY SINGLE girl that I spoke with said " I WISH, I COULD STILL PLAY FOR WENDY'S"....every single one....I spoke to 4 girls on Friday while I was setting up the gym for our tournament.

 

Now...who's making that decision, that's not allowing the girls to play for the team they want??? I'm starting to figure out it's not the kids.

 

I'm not a parent myself, but I can understand how some of the parents are thinking and wanting the best for their child, but you need to let your child decide on what team they want to play for.

 

Wendy's Elite will never be what is considered an "AAU" elite team....that's not we are trying to accomplish from this program. The original intent was to allow all girls from Lenoir City to be apart of an AAU/spring team so we can make everyone, NOT JUST THE ELITE PLAYERS, better at basketball. Just because your daughter doesn't play every game or play as much as you like doesn't mean she doesn't have the chance to prove herself everyday in practice.

 

We have beat many and numerous hand pick AAU teams over the years. I believe some of the parents have been feed to much BULL about what people are calling "exposure" tournaments...how many college coaches are looking at freshman and sophs??? Get real.....I'm promise if your daughter can play then college coaches will know about her.

 

For the people who are upset about letting an 8th grader play up with the high school team during our AAU then what are you going to do about next year? Have you thought about that? These 8th graders are hungry wanting to prove themselves, you better make sure your child is up to the challenge.

 

BTW- All you Joe Lee haters, his 13 & under team made it to the finals tomorrow...pretty good for an old man, who's allowed the game to pass him bye. For $5 you can come and "boo" him. ...hope to see you there. Greg....

 

Elite players and their parents obviously seek out other teams. Yes the expense is great, time spent traveling tremendous. That is their choice, ti find the team and coach that will benefit their child the most.

College coaches will know about players by exposure tournaments where there interest in a player is sparked, then they will come watch high school games.

As for the 8th graders "being hungry" to prove themselves, many other 8th grade classes have felt the same, look at them a year from now- the hunger will be gone and confidence will be lost, sans the chosen few.

I think "Joe Lee haters" are strong words to use. I don't think any one on this thread truly dislikes this man. It just seems that a fresh beginning are what the community,parents, and basketball fans are desiring at this point.

There is outstanding talent on this team, most of it being used for Joe's Elite 5 to practice scrimmage against. Not a way to prove yourself in practice.

I would guess only the folks who deal with this coaching/player/team issue know the "real deal" with the relationship that this coach may have with some players and their families and it may come across as playing favorites. Maybe this is the real talent on the team and the others should just walk away. However, this topic seems to bring a lot of emotion to the table. Wonder what the end results will be?

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I went to the gym, paid my $5 dollars to see what this was about. Ledbetter is right, Coach Lee's team won to move on to the "finals". Close game, but a win is a win. However, I've watched the team they played several times during the year to include middle school games since the team they beat yesterday is mainly made up of girls from Philadelphia's Varsity squad from this past season. Also, the majority of those girls are upcoming 8th graders I believe, 12u. Might have been a better game if Coach Lee had played more than 6 players, I counted 5 or 6 on the bench that never saw the floor except to warm up. If this is how the Wendy's Elite program is "improving" the girls game, they might want to see about getting more girls involved so those 2 or 3 that play the "whole" game do not have tired legs at the end. Why place 13, 14, 15 girls on the bench if you are only going to use 6 or 7. My guess is that the 4 girls that have been involved with Wendy's high school team are the ones getting most of the playing time during the 13u games as well. This can make for a tiresome weekend no matter who the player is.

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I went to the gym, paid my $5 dollars to see what this was about. Ledbetter is right, Coach Lee's team won to move on to the "finals". Close game, but a win is a win. However, I've watched the team they played several times during the year to include middle school games since the team they beat yesterday is mainly made up of girls from Philadelphia's Varsity squad from this past season. Also, the majority of those girls are upcoming 8th graders I believe, 12u. Might have been a better game if Coach Lee had played more than 6 players, I counted 5 or 6 on the bench that never saw the floor except to warm up. If this is how the Wendy's Elite program is "improving" the girls game, they might want to see about getting more girls involved so those 2 or 3 that play the "whole" game do not have tired legs at the end. Why place 13, 14, 15 girls on the bench if you are only going to use 6 or 7. My guess is that the 4 girls that have been involved with Wendy's high school team are the ones getting most of the playing time during the 13u games as well. This can make for a tiresome weekend no matter who the player is.

 

/thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" /> well said! I would think the girls who never saw the floor paid to play and practice the same amount of $$$ as the 6 or 7 that got to play. But it is all about winning right?

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/thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" /> well said! I would think the girls who never saw the floor paid to play and practice the same amount of $$$ as the 6 or 7 that got to play. But it is all about winning right?

 

I've continued to read this thread throughout the past week or so. (better than reality TV!)

 

That said, if all the players aren't playing in these games, you've defeated the purpose already. During the spring and summer, every player should receive playing time.

 

During the season, practices should determine playing time.

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I have spoken to MOST of the Lenoir City girls who play for other AAU teams and let them know that we miss them not playing for us, I sincerely mean this....EVERY SINGLE girl that I spoke with said " I WISH, I COULD STILL PLAY FOR WENDY'S"....every single one....I spoke to 4 girls on Friday while I was setting up the gym for our tournament.

 

Now...who's making that decision, that's not allowing the girls to play for the team they want??? I'm starting to figure out it's not the kids.

 

I'm not a parent myself, but I can understand how some of the parents are thinking and wanting the best for their child, but you need to let your child decide on what team they want to play for.

 

Wendy's Elite will never be what is considered an "AAU" elite team....that's not we are trying to accomplish from this program. The original intent was to allow all girls from Lenoir City to be apart of an AAU/spring team so we can make everyone, NOT JUST THE ELITE PLAYERS, better at basketball. Just because your daughter doesn't play every game or play as much as you like doesn't mean she doesn't have the chance to prove herself everyday in practice.

 

We have beat many and numerous hand pick AAU teams over the years. I believe some of the parents have been feed to much BULL about what people are calling "exposure" tournaments...how many college coaches are looking at freshman and sophs??? Get real.....I'm promise if your daughter can play then college coaches will know about her.

 

For the people who are upset about letting an 8th grader play up with the high school team during our AAU then what are you going to do about next year? Have you thought about that? These 8th graders are hungry wanting to prove themselves, you better make sure your child is up to the challenge.

 

BTW- All you Joe Lee haters, his 13 & under team made it to the finals tomorrow...pretty good for an old man, who's allowed the game to pass him bye. For $5 you can come and "boo" him. ...hope to see you there. Greg....

 

That is great about the 8th grade team winning!!! What about the Wendy`s high school team?

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I went to the gym, paid my $5 dollars to see what this was about. Ledbetter is right, Coach Lee's team won to move on to the "finals". Close game, but a win is a win. However, I've watched the team they played several times during the year to include middle school games since the team they beat yesterday is mainly made up of girls from Philadelphia's Varsity squad from this past season. Also, the majority of those girls are upcoming 8th graders I believe, 12u. Might have been a better game if Coach Lee had played more than 6 players, I counted 5 or 6 on the bench that never saw the floor except to warm up. If this is how the Wendy's Elite program is "improving" the girls game, they might want to see about getting more girls involved so those 2 or 3 that play the "whole" game do not have tired legs at the end. Why place 13, 14, 15 girls on the bench if you are only going to use 6 or 7. My guess is that the 4 girls that have been involved with Wendy's high school team are the ones getting most of the playing time during the 13u games as well. This can make for a tiresome weekend no matter who the player is.

 

 

 

You are right. This big win that Joe Lee got with his favorite seven was over a bunch of seventh graders from a rival county. They only beat them by one point. Maybe if those few girls who play all the time (and they are also on the floor alot during the high school team games) would have been able to rest up their legs a little the win would have been a wider spread. I would be a little nervous about my upcoming season if a bunch of seventh graders can about beat me. They have played this team before and its always a challenge. Good for them. I feel bad for the girls that had to sit out. Why doesn't wendy's just make two 13u teams so that these girls don't pay money and put in time to just sit there. I have heard that Joe Lee has a good assistant. Let him take that team and do something so that talent doesn't fade.

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You are right. This big win that Joe Lee got with his favorite seven was over a bunch of seventh graders from a rival county. They only beat them by one point. Maybe if those few girls who play all the time (and they are also on the floor alot during the high school team games) would have been able to rest up their legs a little the win would have been a wider spread. I would be a little nervous about my upcoming season if a bunch of seventh graders can about beat me. They have played this team before and its always a challenge. Good for them. I feel bad for the girls that had to sit out. Why doesn't wendy's just make two 13u teams so that these girls don't pay money and put in time to just sit there. I have heard that Joe Lee has a good assistant. Let him take that team and do something so that talent doesn't fade.

 

I have been reading this today and I want to scream!!! It is so time for a change, Coach Lee needs to go!! What can we do as a community to make a change in this. Please people for the girls!!! They deserve to hold there heads high and not be ashamed because a sorry coaching staff is putting them down. What makes them untouchable?? They are playing God. When are we going to stand up and call them out????

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