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[davidlimbaugh]

Find a way to accurately rank teams 1-32 in each class and then play out, with those rankings being the seeds. You have to get some type of "bonus" for a quality win (beating a quality opponent), to keep people from trying to fluff their schedule. You're not penalized for losses, rather awarded points for wins, bonuses for other ranked teams or higher classification, etc. Perhaps 1 point for a win over a lower classified opponent, 2 for same, 3 for higher, 1/2 point bonus for ranked team, etc. This is on the fly, but I'm sure that there could be some type of calculation formulated that would be better.

 

Check out 'new plan' thread http://www.coacht.com/tennessee/boards/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=202245 and 'how would you seed?' thread. http://www.coacht.com/tennessee/boards/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=202156

 

Formula is pretty simple:

 

A win is worth (100+# wins of opponent) + (-20 for each class lower than your or +20 for each class higher) + 5 times wins of opponent whether you won or loss + 2 times wins of opponent whether you win or lose if same class or higher.

 

Mt Juliet going into tonight:

 

Mt Juliet (9-1)

McGavock 21-20 (6A) (6-4) 106 30 12

Gallatin 42-35 (5A) (7-3) 87 35 0

Whites Creek 15-12 (4A) (6-4) 66 30 0

Hendersonville 44-37 (5A) (7-3) 87 35 14

Kenwood 42-0 (5A) (1-9) 81 5 0

Lebanon 52-13 (6A) (4-6) 104 20 8

Wilson Central 35-3 (6A) (2-8) 102 10 4

Station Camp 46-7 (5A) (3-7) 83 15 0

Portland 38-13 (5A) (0-10) 80 0 0

Beech 46-47 (5A) (8-2) 0 40 0

796 220 38 1054

 

 

Oakland (8-2)

 

Ensworth 20-22 (OT) (D2) (10-0) 0 50 20

Independence 27-0 (6A) (6-4) 106 30 12

Siegel 20-0 (6A)* (5-5) 105 25 10

Brentwood 27-7 (6A) (8-2) 108 40 16

Riverdale 10-13 (OT) (6A)* (8-2) 0 40 16

Lincoln Co 52-7 (6A) (3-7) 103 15 6

Lavergne 45-28 (6A)* (3-7) 103 15 6

Blackman 14-0 (6A)* (9-1) 109 45 18

Christian Co Ky 14-0 (5A) (6-4) 86 30 0

Smyrna 14-0 (6A)* (5-5) 105 25 10

825 315 114 1254

[eers]

In order for that to work we will have to wait a year or get rid of the contracts that are in place. That will probably not happen, so we need to tweek it for next year and then get a new system.

 

The only problem with this... Who will Alcoa play? 134 points is all you get for beating them (assuming they are a lower classification and win their other nine games). This means that you get more points for a win over 5-5 5a/6a team. I said Alcoa, but that is just an example. The good lower classification teams will have a real difficulty getting teams to play them.

[randymc]

Find a way to accurately rank teams 1-32 in each class and then play out, with those rankings being the seeds. You have to get some type of "bonus" for a quality win (beating a quality opponent), to keep people from trying to fluff their schedule. You're not penalized for losses, rather awarded points for wins, bonuses for other ranked teams or higher classification, etc. Perhaps 1 point for a win over a lower classified opponent, 2 for same, 3 for higher, 1/2 point bonus for ranked team, etc. This is on the fly, but I'm sure that there could be some type of calculation formulated that would be better.

 

Check out 'new plan' thread http://www.coacht.com/tennessee/boards/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=202245 and 'how would you seed?' thread. http://www.coacht.com/tennessee/boards/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=202156

 

Formula is pretty simple:

 

A win is worth (100+# wins of opponent) + (-20 for each class lower than your or +20 for each class higher) + 5 times wins of opponent whether you won or loss + 2 times wins of opponent whether you win or lose if same class or higher.

 

Mt Juliet going into tonight:

 

Mt Juliet (9-1)

McGavock 21-20 (6A) (6-4) 106 30 12

Gallatin 42-35 (5A) (7-3) 87 35 0

Whites Creek 15-12 (4A) (6-4) 66 30 0

Hendersonville 44-37 (5A) (7-3) 87 35 14

Kenwood 42-0 (5A) (1-9) 81 5 0

Lebanon 52-13 (6A) (4-6) 104 20 8

Wilson Central 35-3 (6A) (2-8) 102 10 4

Station Camp 46-7 (5A) (3-7) 83 15 0

Portland 38-13 (5A) (0-10) 80 0 0

Beech 46-47 (5A) (8-2) 0 40 0

796 220 38 1054

 

 

Oakland (8-2)

 

Ensworth 20-22 (OT) (D2) (10-0) 0 50 20

Independence 27-0 (6A) (6-4) 106 30 12

Siegel 20-0 (6A)* (5-5) 105 25 10

Brentwood 27-7 (6A) (8-2) 108 40 16

Riverdale 10-13 (OT) (6A)* (8-2) 0 40 16

Lincoln Co 52-7 (6A) (3-7) 103 15 6

Lavergne 45-28 (6A)* (3-7) 103 15 6

Blackman 14-0 (6A)* (9-1) 109 45 18

Christian Co Ky 14-0 (5A) (6-4) 86 30 0

Smyrna 14-0 (6A)* (5-5) 105 25 10

825 315 114 1254

I really like it, could I be the keeper of the spreadsheet?

[davidlimbaugh]

In order for that to work we will have to wait a year or get rid of the contracts that are in place. That will probably not happen, so we need to tweek it for next year and then get a new system.

 

The only problem with this... Who will Alcoa play? 134 points is all you get for beating them (assuming they are a lower classification and win their other nine games). This means that you get more points for a win over 5-5 5a/6a team. I said Alcoa, but that is just an example. The good lower classification teams will have a real difficulty getting teams to play them.

 

The idea is to play as many teams as you can in your classification.

[eers]

I understand that, but the better teams will still have problems, as the mediocre teams in the same classification wouldn't want to play them either. Elite and bottom feeders will have some scheduling issues, otherwise...

 

It looks workable.

[GetRidofSystem]

My Athletic Director tried to email my ideas to Mr Mathis and it appears the email address is not valid?

 

Jerry Mathis-Tullahoma High School mathisJ@k12tn.net

 

???

 

His e-mail address was not posted on the school website. I will do some researching. From what I have been told, Mathis couldn't give two &*#$^ about football. Why wouldn't he be in a uproar about Tullahoma not making the playoffs and Shelbyville did? He never once commented on that. HE stands by the Z plan. That's why the principals of the area that he represents needs to tell him they will find someone new next time he will be up for election.

[GetRidofSystem]

In order for that to work we will have to wait a year or get rid of the contracts that are in place. That will probably not happen, so we need to tweek it for next year and then get a new system.

 

The only problem with this... Who will Alcoa play? 134 points is all you get for beating them (assuming they are a lower classification and win their other nine games). This means that you get more points for a win over 5-5 5a/6a team. I said Alcoa, but that is just an example. The good lower classification teams will have a real difficulty getting teams to play them.

 

DOES not matter that we are in the middle of a contract year. A total overhaul can be done if it is put to vote on the 19th. Therefore, with new allignment the previous contracts would become null & void.

 

Nobody on that board has any balls to do it anyway.

[davidlimbaugh]

In order for that to work we will have to wait a year or get rid of the contracts that are in place. That will probably not happen, so we need to tweek it for next year and then get a new system.

 

The only problem with this... Who will Alcoa play? 134 points is all you get for beating them (assuming they are a lower classification and win their other nine games). This means that you get more points for a win over 5-5 5a/6a team. I said Alcoa, but that is just an example. The good lower classification teams will have a real difficulty getting teams to play them.

 

Actually, I came up with this idea to try to salvage next year's contracts. In a perfect world, TSSAA would realize 4 classes for 305 teams is plenty. Being 1 of 75 is a lot more impressive than being 1 of 41 (current 1a and 2a) with 8 regions in it and just put 4-1,3-2,2-3,1-4 of adjoining regions (like the good old days, like LAST YEAR)

[davidlimbaugh]

I really like it, could I be the keeper of the spreadsheet?

 

No spreadsheet. SQL Database

[davidlimbaugh]

My Athletic Director tried to email my ideas to Mr Mathis and it appears the email address is not valid?

 

Jerry Mathis-Tullahoma High School mathisJ@k12tn.net

 

???

 

His e-mail address was not posted on the school website. I will do some researching. From what I have been told, Mathis couldn't give two &*#$^ about football. Why wouldn't he be in a uproar about Tullahoma not making the playoffs and Shelbyville did? He never once commented on that. HE stands by the Z plan. That's why the principals of the area that he represents needs to tell him they will find someone new next time he will be up for election.

 

I think I found his email address!

 

Go to http://www.tullahoma-tn.com/board.html - His email address is there.

 

it appears to be mathisj4 -at- k12tn.net (put in this way to keep spammers to a minimum)