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Yea 4th quarter Liberty made some real playoff fouls...

I think those "playoff fouls" came out of frustration due to the fact that the second half foul count was about 12 for Liberty to 3 for Bolivar. Some of the previous posts were saying they hoped the refs didnt decide the game. I dont know if they decided it, cause Bolivar's kids made some great plays but the refs certainly had an impact on the game. You hate to see that in a championship game.

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I think those "playoff fouls" came out of frustration due to the fact that the second half foul count was about 12 for Liberty to 3 for Bolivar. Some of the previous posts were saying they hoped the refs didnt decide the game. I dont know if they decided it, cause Bolivar's kids made some great plays but the refs certainly had an impact on the game. You hate to see that in a championship game.

The fact is Liberty couldn't take advantage of Bolivar playing like crap the first half and then got blowed out 44 to 22 in the second half. Bolivar put it in another gear offensively and Liberty couldn't deal with it and Bolivar turned up the defence. Bolivars second half defence and limiting the offensive rebounds was the main deference in the game not the refs. :popcorneater:

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I think those "playoff fouls" came out of frustration due to the fact that the second half foul count was about 12 for Liberty to 3 for Bolivar. Some of the previous posts were saying they hoped the refs didnt decide the game. I dont know if they decided it, cause Bolivar's kids made some great plays but the refs certainly had an impact on the game. You hate to see that in a championship game.

So let me see if I've got this straight. Liberty hacks, foul called. Bolivar doesn't hack, but a foul should be called? Just to make it fair?

If we are going to have even fouls, regardless of what the teams do, why have refs?

If you watched the game, there was a reason the fouls were lopsided. One team played football, the other basketball...

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So let me see if I've got this straight. Liberty hacks, foul called. Bolivar doesn't hack, but a foul should be called? Just to make it fair?

If we are going to have even fouls, regardless of what the teams do, why have refs?

If you watched the game, there was a reason the fouls were lopsided. One team played football, the other basketball...

Same opinion here,I actualy thought the refs' were pretty lieniant in letting Liberty play their style of ball.Numerous times Bolivar jerseys were streatched by Liberty defenders trying to deny cuts to the basket off the ball,and if it didn't directly affect the play it was let go.Two punishing fouls on breakaways by Liberty were the only "rough" fouls I saw,and just for the record I thought the refs' mis-called them both with an honest attempt on the ball in the first(which was called intentional) and in the second(which was not),Polk took a shot to the head out of frustration with no attempt at the ball.Styles of play directly impact the number of fouls compiled teamwise,and if Liberty/Bolivar play ten times this season I'd expect Liberty to be whistled for more fouls each game.

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So let me see if I've got this straight. Liberty hacks, foul called. Bolivar doesn't hack, but a foul should be called? Just to make it fair?

If we are going to have even fouls, regardless of what the teams do, why have refs?

If you watched the game, there was a reason the fouls were lopsided. One team played football, the other basketball...

I dont have a horse in the race...I am a JCM fan! I am glad Bolivar won. I thought they were the best team in the district. But if you don't think Bolivar reaches and grabs and bumps too then you werent watching the same game I was. Both teams play tough, aggressive defense, which is a big reason they both win and yes, Liberty fouls ALOT! But to play in a championship game with the intensity level through the roof and they only fouled 3 or 4 times? The whole half? 16 minutes of fast paced, intense, aggressive championship basketball and they only fouled 3 or 4 times?! Really? C'mon now... if you really think that is what happened then you are too big of a HOMER to reason with.

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I dont have a horse in the race...I am a JCM fan! I am glad Bolivar won. I thought they were the best team in the district. But if you don't think Bolivar reaches and grabs and bumps too then you werent watching the same game I was. Both teams play tough, aggressive defense, which is a big reason they both win and yes, Liberty fouls ALOT! But to play in a championship game with the intensity level through the roof and they only fouled 3 or 4 times? The whole half? 16 minutes of fast paced, intense, aggressive championship basketball and they only fouled 3 or 4 times?! Really? C'mon now... if you really think that is what happened then you are too big of a HOMER to reason with.

I guess I am...because that is what I saw. If they'd called EVERYTHING, Bolivar would have had more fouls, sure. But Liberty would have had to finish the game with the cheerleaders on the floor.

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