Aspen Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Watched a match last night in which two wrestlers were starting in neutral position with .1 (one tenth) of a second left on the clock. Both wrestlers had previously been warned for stalling. Whistle blows, one wrestler dives for takedown, other wrestler steps back to avoid takedown. Whistle ends match, stalling point charged against wrestler stepping backward. How is this possible? Is stepping back to avoid takedown stalling? Can stalling occur within one-tenth of a second? Proper Call or bad call? Where can you find rules for stalling calls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usfjim Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 i say it is very subjective! coaches and zebras may now weigh in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobvark Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Stalling is a judgement call, you cannot argue it unless you want to lose a point or warning. Stalling is also one of my biggest complaints, I'm just glad I'm not a ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckLateral Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Aspen-----------stalling was the subject of a previous topic----"Philosohpy on stalling"---------that had numerous posts, the last of which was on 12-31-03. Maybe your answer lies in one of those posts. If not, then maybe reftn will wade in with a response. He voiced his opinion with several posts under the previous topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hud1978 Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 I am a ref and some look at what the wrestlers have been doing during there match and that creates the call. I am not going to stick a wrestler for defending himself but I will for avoiding the contact.I would like other views from some officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabidmonkey Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Watched a match last night in which two wrestlers were starting in neutral position with .1 (one tenth) of a second left on the clock. Both wrestlers had previously been warned for stalling. Whistle blows, one wrestler dives for takedown, other wrestler steps back to avoid takedown. Whistle ends match, stalling point charged against wrestler stepping backward. How is this possible? Is stepping back to avoid takedown stalling? Can stalling occur within one-tenth of a second? Proper Call or bad call? Where can you find rules for stalling calls? if your were talking about at district 11 duals i was there i missed the call but i heard about it when i got back and i definately think it was a load of crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikminGod Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 stalling means not forwarding your position/working for the pin, by jumping back, he wuz getting the other wrestler off balance, and therefore forwarrding his postition, i think that if you take a wrester down, and let him back up, that is stalling, you are not working for a pin, you are trying to humiliate the other wreslter, so this technique should be considered stalling or unsportsmanlike conduct, and my question is how can a bottom man be called for stalling, if the can not get his base up because the other wrestler is on his hips, that i dont understand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor X Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Given the situation. I vote that to be a very bad call. But, that's just my opinion... ... and we all know how that phrase ends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonesfool Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 The rules are fairly clear and I would hate to be the official, because that is where the subjective part comes in. Worse call I ever saw was about 30 years ago in a tied match. Wrestler "A" shoots a deep double leg tackle on Wrestler "B" with 4 seconds to go and knocks down "B". The whole gym thinks Wrestler "A" has won the match including "B" and his coach. The official calmly walks to table talks, makes a call and awards the match to "B". Stalling he lets everyone know Because "A" looked at the clock as he shot though "B" was flat footed and stepping sideways. Never seen as bad as call since. Every one felt bad for both kids. However wrestler "b" tried to pull Wrestler "A" up on the 1st spot of the awards stand and give him the 1st place medal. A subjective (BAD) call led to a priceless moment in wrestling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel58 Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 I Think that a Referee can see whether the bottom man is attempting to get to his base or trying to get back to neutral position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikminGod Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 However wrestler "b" tried to pull Wrestler "A" up on the 1st spot of the awards stand and give him the 1st place medal. did the other guy take the medal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel58 Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 I would say that jumping back( however i do not know how exagerated this "jump back was) could be considered as a defense to a shot. If the man was able to jump back and make the man completely miss, that isnt stalling, thats just a poor shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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