Sycamore vs. Waverly

[carney]

Unfortunately, we have a bunch of people on here, objective or not, that have to blame someone for the loss. Obviously, you guys never played or coached any sports because any moron knows that to blame a loss on three calls, or any calls is idiotic. Yes, they may have come at critical times, but don' t forget about the missed shots, bad passes, missed foul shots, turnovers or bad defense played by these teams at times. There will always be ball calls that hurt both teams because the officials are human. All teams will suffer. Grow up and take responsibility for the losses regardless of how it happens. One team will win and one will lose. But neither has to act like a loser. Obviously, some of you on this site do. It was a good ballgame to watch, regardless who you were for. Both teams played very hard to the end. Unfortunately, someone had to lose. However, both teams deserved to win a contest like that. Every district game that people post about on here seems to go down to the wire. It will make for an interesting tournament. Good luck to all teams.

[Jp-tiger]

Good post carney, i like the way you put it.

[Guest catfish-hunter]

Alright i have a question.....If Harpeth beats Montgomery Central and loses to Sycamore, Sycamore and Harpeth will have the same record. Who gets what seed? Sycamore has beaten CW twice and CW swept Harpeth but Harpeth beat Cheatham both times and Sycamore lost twice. Im confused does it go to a coin flip or what, someone please enlighten me.

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It would first off be head-to-head okiedoke. Harpeth & Sycamore will have split the season series under your scenario, so nothing will matter there. It would then go to the overall record against the upper ranked teams in the district. Both Harpeth and Sycamore are 0-2 against Waverly, so still nothing has been solved. Now here is where it really gets tricky man!!!

 

If Harpeth beats Montgomery Central on Tuesday, then they will have 7 wins in the district. The most Sycamore can end the season with is 7. For the War Eagles to not play in the #4-#5 game, here is what must happen. First off, they have gotta beat Harpeth on Friday night. CreekWood plays Mont. Cent. next Monday night, so that is a game they'll likely win. If CreekWood can beat Cheatham on Tuesday night in Cheatham, then they and the Cubs are gonna finish out the season with 7 district wins. If Sycamore beats Harpeth on Friday night, then both of those teams will end the season with 7 district wins as well (assuming of course that Harpeth takes care of Mont. Cent. on Tuesday night). It then goes like this buddy. Cheatham is the ONLY team out of those four to beat Waverly, so therefore they will get the #2 seed. Sycamore will have swept CreekWood. CreekWood swept Harpeth. Harpeth will have split the season series with Sycamore. Since they did not sweep either Sycamore OR CreekWood, they'll be the #5 seed. It then goes to the Sycamore-CreekWood tiebreaker to determine the #3 & #4 spots and the War Eagles swept CreekWood. Sycamore will play in the #3-#6 game against Mont. Cent. and CreekWood and Harpeth will meet in the #4-#5 game (this is all under your scenario okiedoke).

 

If Cheatham takes care of CreekWood on Tuesday night and Harpeth beats Montgomery Central, then Sycamore and CreekWood will play one another in the #4-#5 game (regardless of what happens the rest of the way). Harpeth would then have to beat Sycamore to play in the #2-#7 game because of the fact that they will have only accumulated 7 district wins to that point in the season, while Cheatham will already have won 8. If Harpeth loses at Montgomery Central on Tuesday and Cheatham wins at home against CreekWood, then the Cubs are the #2 seed and the Harpeth-Sycamore winner on Friday is the #3 seed.

 

Basically, what Sycamore must do is hope for Mont. Cent. to pull an upet at home against Harpeth (like they did against Cheatham). That would make the Sycamore-Harpeth game on Friday night HUGE!!! Come on Montgomery Central, help us out!!!

[mkhhawk]

I have a question concerning the referees for the district tourney??? Will they be supplied from another district or will they be the same as we've had during the regular season? I am thinking that regional games are officiated by a totally different crew from outside our region but wasn't sure about the district tournament games. Thx.

[noggin]

refs arem assigned by tssaa. last year they were from the reg. season refs

[El Rey]

Everyone from Waverly seems pretty sure that they are going to win district. My memory is alittle fuzzy... didn't the fourth seed win last year? The season doesn't mean anything, look at Cheatham over the past few years.

 

Catfish, its about time you predict the tourny.

[angie]

I think regardless of what district you are in or who your favorite high school team is that EVERYONE would agree that the refs should NEVER determine the outcome of a game and I think anyone at the Waverly that is willing to speak the truth would admit that several calls at the end could have definitely cost Sycamore the game. You can call it crying, whining or whatever you choose to call it, but the truth is the truth. The unfortunate part of it is that it is over now and won't be changed so Sycamore just has to move on from here.

[Guest catfish-hunter]

Everyone from Waverly seems pretty sure that they are going to win district. My memory is alittle fuzzy... didn't the fourth seed win last year? The season doesn't mean anything, look at Cheatham over the past few years. 

 

Catfish, its about time you predict the tourny.

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If Harpeth and Cheatham take care of business like they should tomorrow night, then the #4 vs #5 matchup will be Sycamore-CreekWood. The winner of that game would play district champion Waverly in the second round of the district tourney. It really doesn't matter who is the #2 seed and who is the #3 seed between Harpeth and Cheatham because those two teams will likely meet in the second round of the district tourney. Sycamore and CreekWood would be an entertaining opening round matchup in the district tourney, but in the end I'd pick Sycamore to win that game and move on to the second round to play Waverly. WHY??? Despite the solid season that the CreekWood Red Hawks have had in '04-'05, why in the world would I pick a team that has never won a postseason game to beat a team that has won this exact tournament for the past two years in a row.

 

Like I stated earlier though, hopefully Montgomery Central can pull the upset special of the season tomorrow night and Sycamore will still have a legitimate shot of being a #3 seed when tourney time rolls around.

[mkhhawk]

El Rey, Everyone from Waverly is sure that Waverly is in the Regionals. Why do they know that? Because they won the regular season title. The regular season title does mean a lot. It is based upon playing all 6 district foes twice over the course of a couple months. Congrats to the Waverly players, coaches, and fans for accomplishing this feat. Winning the regular season title and the #1 seed that goes with it means a finish of no worse than 4th in the district tourney and advancing to the regional.

As far as winning the district tourney is concerned, each team will get a fresh start. Waverly was beaten by Cheatham County once and had very close wins against Cheatham, Harpeth (twice), and Sycamore (twice). The first Creek Wood game was much closer than the final score indicated and the Red Hawks will get another chance this Friday. (If Creek Wood wins their 3 remaining district games, they get the 2nd seed in the tourney.) So I don't think any of the above mentioned teams will be in awe of Waverly and they may even "want" to play them again. Waverly players, coaches and most fans realize this. The winner of this years District 10 AA tournament will be the team which plays the best during the week of the tournament. Simple as that. Then the Regional 5 tourney starts and all that the District tourney will have decided will be which 4 teams advance and what their seeds will be. Then the funs starts again. But by winning the regular season title, Waverly knows "for sure" that they will be a part of it.

[Guest catfish-hunter]

El Rey, Everyone from Waverly is sure that Waverly is in the Regionals. Why do they know that?  Because they won the regular season title. The regular season title does mean a lot. It is based upon playing all 6 district foes twice over the course of a couple months. Congrats to the Waverly players, coaches, and fans for accomplishing this feat. Winning the regular season title and the #1 seed that goes with it means a finish of no worse than 4th in the district tourney and advancing to the regional.

As far as winning the district tourney is concerned, each team will get a fresh start. Waverly was beaten by Cheatham County once and had very close wins against Cheatham, Harpeth (twice), and Sycamore (twice). The first Creek Wood game was much closer than the final score indicated and the Red Hawks will get another chance this Friday. (If Creek Wood wins their 3 remaining district games, they get the 2nd seed in the tourney.) So I don't think any of the above mentioned teams will be in awe of Waverly and they may even "want" to play them again. Waverly players, coaches and most fans realize this. The winner of this years District 10 AA tournament will be the team which plays the best during the week of the tournament. Simple as that.  Then the Regional 5 tourney starts and all that the District tourney will have decided will be which 4 teams advance and what their seeds will be. Then the funs starts again. But by winning the regular season title, Waverly knows "for sure" that they will be a part of it.

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Well said mkhhawk!! Harpeth won the regular season district title last year, but how many postseason games did the Indians win??? ZERO!!! They lost to Sycamore in the district semifinals, lost to Waverly in the consolation game, and lost in the regional opener to Giles County. Winning the regular season title does assure you an extra week of playing basketball, but it does nothing more than that.

[scanooni22]

No matter what happens, any team in 10aa wants to finish either 1st or 3rd in the district tournament. The reason being, you get to stay away from Giles in the Region Tourny until the championship game. Because it's going to be Giles and a 10aa team in the region finals more than likely.

[mkhhawk]

No matter what happens, any team in 10aa wants to finish either 1st or 3rd in the district tournament. The reason being, you get to stay away from Giles in the Region Tourny until the championship game. Because it's going to be Giles and a 10aa team in the region finals more than likely.

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Very true scanooni about avoiding Giles County. But Page has a good record (and did beat Cheatham in December) so they must be thrown into the mix as well. And the Regional is being played at Page so expect that to be to their advantage. I think Lewis County beat Creek Wood recently (not sure though) and plays Waverly at home on Tuesday. Waverly won quite easily the first time with Lewis County but would suspect this game could be closer.