JSamson7

Wrong, not last year (http://insider.espn....=2&viewmore=yes) or this year (http://247sports.com...iteTeamRankings). Of course, having a battle of football IQ with anybody from DB is foolish as more times than not you guys come to the fight unarmed & uneducated. As far as Foreman starting for any team, don't count on that... He might start at a skill position, but not at QB (especially at Maryville). Heck, the competition you guys play on a consistent basis is laughable & would make anybody look good. Say what you want, but DB has been the biggest choke artists in TSSAA history having the most program wins of all time (easy against sub-par competition) with no titles in the modern playoff era (http://www.tssaa.org...etTheRecord.cfm). So have fun being bounced out of the 1st round again... BTW - For the record, UT's staff has underachieved, but they aren't as bad as you think. Offensively, their staff is great (especially Graham & Pittman), defensively not so much. I'm not happy about it by any means, but you can't argue the fact that they have played the 2nd toughest schedule in the country, at least made it close against SEC competition as opposed to Candy, & will more than likely win the rest of their games.

Just in, Foreman was probably not good enough to get recruited by TN. However, congratulations to him & an early condolences on getting bounced out of the play offs in the 1st round (again)

Where is the world does he get the idea that Maryville is full of hillbillies?? lol Maybe Stars can answer that one...

Really?? No way 3A is tougher than the other classes. 4A maybe, but the district with Maryville, LC, Bearden, Knox West, etc would smoke any of the 3A schools outside of CAK & Alcoa.

Don't listen to Deon, he is a legend in his own mind...

He came my Sr. year from a little school in Georgia. Can't remember what their name was, but he started off as our QB coach under Hammontree & was brought in spefically to upgrade the passing game under then OC David Ellis (now the OL coach). Funnier still, he was actually the ball boy growing up in Jeff County for Carson-Newman's team when Hammontree, Ellis, Pete Billingsley (my DB/WR coach @ Maryville), & Larry Kerr (Halls/Aderson County) were all playing for the Eagles back in the day... Small world.

These are in no particular order, but all woudl deserve mentioned on this thread & I'll list the reasons why Charles McTorry (Overton) - 3 time Finalist (Champ 2x), National Champ, recent MMA figher, greatest athlete in TN wrestling history Marquise Nelson (Kirby) - 3 time Finalist (Champ 2x), High School AA, JUCO AA & Champ Dee Parker (Red Bank) - HW Champ (96) one bad mutha f@#$$. Heard Jappa personally call him "Sir" at State tournament after he destroyed our HW at Maryville (Scott Jones). Darrell Hughes (McGavock) - HW Champ (95), could have been a 2x champ if he would have made weight at Regions in 1996 Heath Eslinger (Bradley) - 2x Champ, 3x SoCon champ, teammate of mine at UTC, current UTC head coach George Lewis (McCallie) - 3x Champ, one of McAllie's greats along with Vance & Wunderlich Waylon Lowe (Jefferson County) - State Champ, Multiple time DII College National Champ, current MMA fighter, has fought in the UFC a number of times Brian Provezano (Red Bank) - 2x Finalist (Champ 1x), destroyed "Rampage" in the 2nd round of 97 State Tourney on his way to the Finals, teammate of mine at UTC Carlos Thompson (Cleveland) - 3x Finalist (Champ 2x), All State LB/FB for Cleveland's 3 time 4A football state champs Brian Guthrie (Oakland) - 2x Champ, wrestled like a mad man on a bum knee, crazy looking as heck, mean as a snake Craig Johnson (Seymour) - 2x Finalist (1x Champ), teammate of mine at UTC, current MMA pro with several state amateur MMA titles Nick Breeden (Seymour) - 2x Finalist (1x Champ), pinned Mondelli for FR in 54 seconds to win state title in 96 & beat a very deep 215 pound field that year to death Quantel Langford (Cleveland) - State Runner Up, SoCon Champ, newly turned Pro MMA fighter. Absolute animal in the practice room & teammate of mine at UTC There's a few more I could list, but those are all deserving

Joppa, that wasn't one of the Jordan twins that Mondelli bit, that was at 215 when Mondelli would have faced my boy Nick Breeden again at State. The Jordans were at 152 & 160 below McTorry...

Are you talking about the kid who wrestled at Maryville?

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Are you kidding me? Zac was an awesome wreslter, but NEVER a "bad dude"...

This one is getting to get ugly real fast... Sorry SS, not looking good for you guys thus far.

I played that game, but let's not forget we put up 28 against them & that was more than anyone (including Brentwood Academy) had scored on them all year. They were beating us 28-21 at half & we tied it up before they ran off 42 straight on us to finish up at 70. A few guys I wrestled with in college played on that Cleveland team & they said we pissed them off & their locker room was crazy at half. That prompted Coach Monroe to give a rather lively speech & motivated them to run it up on us the rest of the night...

I agree on some things, but there were a lot of players who didn't like Olive much either. They said he tried to get "too cute" on offense & could have been more succesful with simpler schemes. The two main coaches that were run off (Casteel & Summey) were horrible. I will say that not all the players were happy with Hammontree either because has could be fairly abrasive as well. It was his way or the highway, but I imagine it was a lot like that when Jim Moore was at Heritage. Those two are a lot a like & for whatever reason Coach Moore wasn't there very long.

How so? Both are really smart coaches for different sides of the ball. I played for both & can honestly say they're both fairly equal in regards to their coaching chops. Say all you want, but GQ came into a much better situation than "Hammontree" had when he came to Maryville. Not many people have a foundation like the one GQ had to build from.

Yeah, considering the fact it wasn't until '92 when Maryville made it back to the playoffs, I would say that's about right. The Maryville era between the Story years to Hammontree's run was pretty sad except the lone year when Olive took Maryville to the playoffs in '92 as I mentioned above & then subsequently left (thank god)... Maryville needed a culture change & Hammontree was the guy who turned it around. Granted my Sophomore year we went 5-5 under him, but he definitely changed the culture & brought in Ellis, Quarles, the year long commitment, & everything else that GQ has has to build from. If I left anyone out, I want to thank all of the coaches that helped bring Maryville back to the position they were in when my dad was there in the 70's. THANK YOU

You're still wrong, but you can think what you want.

Am I missing something here about Fulmer's house? I thought he still lived next to Foothills School...

They beat Maryville a few times & from what I'm told by my mom (she graduated from there in '74) was that Everett wasn't a good team on a regular basis. They had some years when they were good every now & then, but never any real consistent success. Bobby Nick, Judge Brewer, & Avron Cosby are some of the stars Everett had who made some noise back in the mid 70's though. I'm sure a few people in Blount County will recognize those names.

Coming out of Maryville, I won't go as far as saying the coaches there discourage it, but I will say they're not too crazy about guys wrestling either. I fell that they're really ignorant to the fact that most wrestlers who play football excel more often times than not. As a DB, wreslting helped me learn how to fight off blocks & tackle properly. Otherwise, weighing in at 135 lbs my Sr. year would have gotten me killed & I probably would have never seen the field as a player that size. Looking at the NFL, I can name a ton of guys who were top notch wrestlers. Troy Aikman, Ray Lewis, Scott Wells, Roddy White, Fred Weary, Stephen Neal, Lorenzo Neal, Tiki & Ronde Barber, Roger Craig, Ronnie Lott, Mike & Bob Golic, Bo Jackson, Warren Sapp, etc. etc. etc. My coach at Maryville (Hammontree) wasn't all that crazy about me wrestling & cutting weight, but he was real quick to try to get our heavywieght to come out for football. According to our HW, Hammontree tried to get him to stop wrestling altogether after his Jr. year to focus solely on football. Of course he said no & quit football soon after that. I would say that was definitely a good choice on his part as he took 3rd place in the state tournament his Sr. year in an extremely stacked heavyweight class...

You can say that again, but as long as they don't steal our thunder...

Meadows an upgrade?? That's hilarious...

Me too, as usual oldrebel has no idea of what he's talking about.

Me too! Forgot about "then" instead of "than"...

Thanks... I was one of the original Wolfpack members back when Tim started it all...

Good deal! Tell him his old UTC roommate (me-Jason Hughes) says hey...