All-Star Game Rosters

[Opperman]

Fuggly and Opperman, you are fighting a losing battle, the numbers dont lie!

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The numbers don't lie. But when you're looking at the wrong numbers, you get wrong conclusions.

[gotmilk?]

There's more to it than average, HR's, and RBI's.  Edmonds is a Gold Glove centerfielder, while Floyd and Burrell are below-average DH's trying to play the field.

 

Edmonds' offensive skills are underrated when you only look at avg/hr/rbi.  Cliff Floyd's and Pat Burrell's are overrated a bit.

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Floyd has a better fielding % than does Edmonds!

[gotmilk?]

The numbers don't lie.  But when you're looking at the wrong numbers, you get wrong conclusions.

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Hey I aint worried about it now! Jones proved last night who should have started! I talked the talk and Jones walked the walk! Its all good! thumb

[Fuggly63]

Hey I aint worried about it now! Jones proved last night who should have started! I talked the talk and Jones walked the walk! Its all good! thumb

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Too bad Smoltz couldn't........

[btowntigers]

There's more to it than average, HR's, and RBI's.  Edmonds is a Gold Glove centerfielder, while Floyd and Burrell are below-average DH's trying to play the field.

 

Edmonds' offensive skills are underrated when you only look at avg/hr/rbi.  Cliff Floyd's and Pat Burrell's are overrated a bit.

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i didnt say they were better defensively, if you read my other posts you'll see were i said Edmonds is one of the top 3 outfielders when it comes to defense, but the allstar game aint about defense. nobody watches the allstar game for defense they wanna see people hittin 500 foot blasts. Edmonds offense isnt underrated either he's usually a great hitter this just isnt one of his best years...he's hit 39 and 42 homers the last 2 years and has a 293 career average and he just isnt putting up those type of numbers this year. its over with now though and like gotmilk said, Andruw backed up our case for him being the starter over Edmonds and once again yall will be watching games 1 and 2 of the series in Boston, hopefully.

[Bledsoebtheboys]

There's more to it than average, HR's, and RBI's.  Edmonds is a Gold Glove centerfielder, while Floyd and Burrell are below-average DH's trying to play the field.

 

Edmonds' offensive skills are underrated when you only look at avg/hr/rbi.  Cliff Floyd's and Pat Burrell's are overrated a bit.

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Andruw has 8 straight Gold Gloves..........

[gotmilk?]

Too bad Smoltz couldn't........

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Smoltz came in and did his thing, sure he gave up a run, but that happens in baseball! But something I didnt see was neither of the three undeserving starters(Rolen, Eckstein, Edmonds) do anything? Dang!!! Guess I am right again! Hang in there "SCOOTER" you will be fine!

Edited July 14, 2005 by gotmilk?

[Opperman]

Floyd has a better fielding % than does Edmonds!

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So?

 

Let me ask you a question. Two fielders are in CF and see the exact same 100 balls.

 

One of them gets 75 outs, 5 errors, and the other 20 are hits.

 

The other gets 50 outs, 1 error, and the other 49 are hits.

 

#2 has a better fielding percentage. Which one is the better fielder?

[Opperman]

Andruw has 8 straight Gold Gloves..........

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I never said Jones shouldn't start. I said Edmonds should. The ASG process chooses three outfielders, not LF/CF/RF. Edmonds is clearly one of the three best outfielders in the NL, therefore he deserved to start.

[btowntigers]

I never said Jones shouldn't start.  I said Edmonds should.  The ASG process chooses three outfielders, not LF/CF/RF.  Edmonds is clearly one of the three best outfielders in the NL, therefore he deserved to start.

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thats crazy.....Edmonds isnt a top 3 outfielder so far, look at the numbers i posted a few days ago and this time open your eyes when you read them and you'll see the truth, and to be honest with you he's probably not even the best outfielder on his team so far this year, offensively speaking(which is what the AS game is about), Reggie Sanders doesnt get any recognition but he's having a heck of a season.

[gotmilk?]

I never said Jones shouldn't start.  I said Edmonds should.  The ASG process chooses three outfielders, not LF/CF/RF.  Edmonds is clearly one of the three best outfielders in the NL, therefore he deserved to start.

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So in that case, you are saying Ken Griffey Jr. should have made the All-Star game over Edmonds? Griffey(.288 18HR 59 RBI) clearly has better offensive numbers that Edmonds(.270 16HR 51 RBI) and we all know that anything edmonds can catch, Griffey can! But the game is over Jones proved who should have been starting, Edmonds proved he shouldnt even have been there, so its all good! thumb

 

Edmonds is no where close to being a top 3 OF! His past shows that he is a great OF, but he is just not doing it this year so far!

[btowntigers]

So in that case, you are saying Ken Griffey Jr. should have made the All-Star game over Edmonds? Griffey(.288 18HR 59 RBI) clearly has better offensive numbers that Edmonds(.270 16HR 51 RBI) and we all know that anything edmonds can catch, Griffey can! But the game is over Jones proved who should have been starting, Edmonds proved he shouldnt even have been there, so its all good! thumb

 

Edmonds is no where close to being a top 3 OF! His past shows that he is a great OF, but he is just not doing it this year so far!

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we might as well just give up because we could keep telling them the stats all the way through October and these Cardinal fans still arent gonna admit that Edmonds isnt playing as good as Jones, Lee, Cabrera, Griffey, Floyd, or Burrell...atleast theres still 2 people that can realize the obvious.