Temple vs Friendship

[PBG030]

Pasture, are you Rob Eldridge? I assume you will say no. I thought I'd ask. Everyone thinks you are. If you claim that you pulled in over $100,000 for Temple this year, then I will know that you are Rob.

 

Sounds like I missed a great game. I wish I could have been there. As for the guy shoving Dee, that guy better be glad Seth held Dee back.

 

Why didn't these things happen when I was in school. If I saw people treating my(temple) team the way it was described on here, I would have been the first person to showboat across the court last night.

 

If the student section was really using profanity, then you have to be ignorant to say, "They're just teenagers. Don't you remember when you were one?" I still am and there is no excuse for doing that. Of coarse kids will rant and rave. I did it. I was obnoxious at the games but there is no reason for Christians to use profanity. That reflects the administration and parents. I'm sure that Dad from FCS would have been like the pathetic Dad on the news and tackle an opposing player.

 

oh and Vandy, are you Jason Holwerda(sp?) Random question, but I thought I'd ask.

[PBG030]

QUOTE(tk20football @ Mar 6 2007 - 12:51 PM) 826402161[/snapback]Josh, I do not know if Pasture is who you think he is, but you have worked to hard to get on here and worry about what everybody else is saying. You are a good kid so don't continue to lower yourself to the standards of some. You are angry with Temple and that is fine, just don't make yourself look bad. Good luck at State and good luck in football next season. What is the school you are going to?

 

 

 

Hey that's not Josh Smith.

 

But Josh is going Cumberland next year.

[ragincajun477]

i really like jeremy sexton has been stepping it up lately. it's good to see the young guys step up. we all know we'll need it next year.

[FCSprideatUT]

QUOTE(Pasture @ Mar 6 2007 - 08:53 AM) 826401899[/snapback]I thought the student section and the cheerleaders lacked class but they only acted that way because the administration has allowed it to go on.

 

Some things that were unnecessary was the turning the backs of the student section and cheerleaders while our players were being announced. While that may seem cute or funny, it is not, and it shows a lack of respect not only for the competition but the game. I would guess that when FCS lost to PC for the region, they did not applaud PC when the first place plaque was awarded. There are some things, while allowable in other arenas, ought not to be characteristic of Christian schools.

 

It is not hard to understand why the region 4 teams have such a distaste for FCS and it is unfortunate because there are quite a lot of classy fans who post on here. I felt sorry for FCS in their loss last night. They obviously worked hard to make it to the sectional and they have a good group of athletes. FCS was ill prepared for the match up last night just as we were in Lebanon back in the fall.

 

 

Actually FCS fans both parents and as unbelievable as it may have sounded even the student section clapped loud enough when Pickett got the plaque, There was no screaming or "go pickett" but i doubt that Arts and Science did more than clap for Temple.

 

This is something i simply disagree on. For example some public schools don't even bother to turn their back they simply make hand gesture's that you could guess and yell obsenities when the opposing team is being introduced

 

Trousdale hates us simply because we are private. Gordonsville has only hated FCS since FCS became able to compete with them...

 

I think that Coach Bradshaw did a good job of preparing them, but i would also bet that Temple probobly shot a good 20% more from the field and well over 25% more than them from the line... hard to beat that.

 

 

QUOTE(Super Fish @ Mar 6 2007 - 09:56 AM) 826402006[/snapback]I'm not surprised....I heard a rumor that they are discussing taking christian out of their name as well they should. I respect Coach Bradshaw and i think he is a good coach and person- I do wonder how he puts up with all he must endure to coach at FCS. FCS is lucky to have him. We should all hold ourselves accountable for our actions and words- be they good or bad- YES the administration should Step Up but so should the parents, teachers, and student athletes at this or any school that acts the way they seem to act game after game after game

 

 

been talking about doing that for years now, but all it would be is we would join the ranks of temple and be an Academy

 

I agree

[FCSprideatUT]

QUOTE(PBG030 @ Mar 6 2007 - 04:05 PM) 826402511[/snapback]Pasture, are you Rob Eldridge? I assume you will say no. I thought I'd ask. Everyone thinks you are. If you claim that you pulled in over $100,000 for Temple this year, then I will know that you are Rob.

Sounds like I missed a great game. I wish I could have been there. As for the guy shoving Dee, that guy better be glad Seth held Dee back.

 

Why didn't these things happen when I was in school. If I saw people treating my(temple) team the way it was described on here, I would have been the first person to showboat across the court last night.

If the student section was really using profanity, then you have to be ignorant to say, "They're just teenagers. Don't you remember when you were one?" I still am and there is no excuse for doing that. Of coarse kids will rant and rave. I did it. I was obnoxious at the games but there is no reason for Christians to use profanity. That reflects the administration and parents. I'm sure that Dad from FCS would have been like the pathetic Dad on the news and tackle an opposing player.

oh and Vandy, are you Jason Holwerda(sp?) Random question, but I thought I'd ask.

 

 

It is well established on the football boards numerous times that he is not rob eldridge.

 

If a kid was mad enough to shove him into the wall, what makes you think that he would not have invited young dee to take a swing at him (which he acted like he would by the way)

 

Well if you would be the first to showboat across the court then you are nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black when you say that you would have lead the idea of taunting and making things worse

 

I make an effort to not have or use excuses, they are of no use to me and they change nothing that has happened. I agree that it reflects badly on the school, parents... ect. But just like there is christian kids in a non-christian school there are non-christians in a christian school... does that makes sense to anyone besides me??

 

The dad was the father of the young man who shoved dee.... and he would not have touched an opposing player, he would have most likely tackled all three ref's

[nathan4322]

A very good game, but was poorly officaited. It is a shame with the anti-skogen jargon. A "money guy " at the academy, who thinks he is second to God himslef can get on here and post. Great game adn if I were Seth I would have doen the same thing. Good luck in the 'boro

[PBG030]

It is well established on the football boards numerous times that he is not rob eldridge.

 

 

Well if you would be the first to showboat across the court then you are nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black when you say that you would have lead the idea of taunting and making things worse

 

 

 

this comment makes no sense. I already stated that I would be the first. Don't repeat what I stated. I know what I said. Because of FCS's unclassy acts I would rub the win in their face. It's pathetic. I've never seen in all my years atTemple students, players, and parents react the way FCS did. Show some class. If you lose, face the music. Don't lose respect from those around you just because you can't take a loss like a man. And yes I am more than what you described me. I know how to show class when my team loses. I don't pitch a fit and use profanity.

 

If FCS would have responded to the game in a whole different manner, NONE of this would have taken place.

[FCSprideatUT]

QUOTE(PBG030 @ Mar 6 2007 - 10:40 PM) 826403046[/snapback]Because of FCS's unclassy acts I would rub the win in their face. It's pathetic. I've never seen in all my years at

 

 

I in no way condone the actions of FCS, nor was i appart of it. But for you to say that FCS was classless, horrible and in this past post pathetic, and then say that you would respond to these actions with taunting of your own??? what is the biblical oppinion on going down to the level of those around you again?

 

I repeat that i am not saying FCS was in the green (no pun intended) in doing what they allegedly did.

[PBG030]

You are a FCS fan. Their actions reflect on every FCS fan whether you like it or not. Then you go and try to use the Bible against me?! It's not your place.

 

I'm sure not all FCS fans are that shallow, but the way they acted, no FCS fan can come on here and say, "What does the Bible say about..."

 

end of discussion

[FCSprideatUT]

QUOTE(PBG030 @ Mar 6 2007 - 11:29 PM) 826403084[/snapback]You are a FCS fan. Their actions reflect on every FCS fan whether you like it or not. Then you go and try to use the Bible against me?! It's not your place.

 

I'm sure not all FCS fans are that shallow, but the way they acted, no FCS fan can come on here and say, "What does the Bible say about..."

 

end of discussion

 

 

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!??!?!?! as a christian that is insulting. You insinuate that because a group from my school acted wrongly it condems anyone close to that school to not be able to even use the bible??? You actually said IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO USE THE BIBLE?!?!?!?!?!

 

You, me, rob eldridge, coach skogen, john shoulders and no one else on earth has a right to judge other people or even groups when it comes to who can use the bible and who can't. If i were you i would get a reality check on that.

[14111111]

Part of me says to just stay out of this, but oh well.

 

My concern is the way this topic has thrown around the label of what is Christian (Xn) and what is not. I would encourage us all to just step back for a moment and maybe look at this way. The Xn life is one of growing up, of maturing. These are young kids, young Xn kids, both #11 and the fans behind our bench as well as my son Seth. I think some folks stepped out of line a bit, and I am never condoning defaming language or losing control even for a second and reacting, however, we all do this in the heat of the moment, I, wrongly, make this same mistake and must seek the Lord's grace when I do so, we, all of us, need to mature and some times falling down is part of learning how to live the Xn life. We all look back on things we said or did and think how we should have responded differently, and thank the Lord that He never quits His kind work of grace in us. If we are willing to make decisions that someone is not a Xn because of a rough play in a bb game or because of a swear word, then I think we have some bigger problems, namely, that we might not know what the gospel is.

 

I saw my son's actions, I understood them, especially in that situation, will he act the same way when he is my age? Probably not, (and he will be more mature than I am!) because the Lord will grow him up like He promises. Actions, even sinful ones have a context and as Xns we are to understand that, "let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall..." #11 was frustrated, he is an athlete, a competitor, and I would bet he is a pretty good kid, although I think his action was not the one to take, I would never make judgments about his love for the Lord based on one mistake. If that is the way we choose to live, then no one could be considered a follower of Christ, I know I wouldn't be. I would rather have people act as they are, even if it is rough and raw than pretend to play some religious game that is full of rules, self-righteousness,piosity and false at the heart, at least we can deal with that. Sorry, I got to rambling.

 

Let me also say that the student section may have gotten carried away, and I was worried about what my 13 year old daughter who keeps our stats was having to listen to but that in no way reflects on the school as a whole. There is probably some repenting needing to be done, but MOST of the cheering and trying to distract us was just part of the game, and to tell you the truth, some of it was pretty funny, there were some good stingers in there that made me laugh.

 

A number of FCS parents, faculty and staf came to me after the game and showed all kinds of class even apologizing for how things got a bit heated, (not that they needed to, competition teaches us, sometimes through our negative reactions.) I was not offended in the least and thought that those I spoke to were extremely humble and respectful.

 

As Xns we see sin for what it is, and we must never down play it, but it would be wise to always see our own sin as the bigger problem than everyone else's. I know who the "chief of sinners" is, and it is not anyone at FCS, it is the dope who is writing at 6:07am on this post.

 

Grace to cover all our sins....thanks for listening (reading) my rambling.

 

Kevin D. Skogen

[icecold06]

QUOTE(14111111 @ Mar 7 2007 - 05:13 AM) 826403135[/snapback]Part of me says to just stay out of this, but oh well.

 

My concern is the way this topic has thrown around the label of what is Christian (Xn) and what is not. I would encourage us all to just step back for a moment and maybe look at this way. The Xn life is one of growing up, of maturing. These are young kids, young Xn kids, both #11 and the fans behind our bench as well as my son Seth. I think some folks stepped out of line a bit, and I am never condoning defaming language or losing control even for a second and reacting, however, we all do this in the heat of the moment, I, wrongly, make this same mistake and must seek the Lord's grace when I do so, we, all of us, need to mature and some times falling down is part of learning how to live the Xn life. We all look back on things we said or did and think how we should have responded differently, and thank the Lord that He never quits His kind work of grace in us. If we are willing to make decisions that someone is not a Xn because of a rough play in a bb game or because of a swear word, then I think we have some bigger problems, namely, that we might not know what the gospel is.

 

I saw my son's actions, I understood them, especially in that situation, will he act the same way when he is my age? Probably not, (and he will be more mature than I am!) because the Lord will grow him up like He promises. Actions, even sinful ones have a context and as Xns we are to understand that, "let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall..." #11 was frustrated, he is an athlete, a competitor, and I would bet he is a pretty good kid, although I think his action was not the one to take, I would never make judgments about his love for the Lord based on one mistake. If that is the way we choose to live, then no one could be considered a follower of Christ, I know I wouldn't be. I would rather have people act as they are, even if it is rough and raw than pretend to play some religious game that is full of rules, self-righteousness,piosity and false at the heart, at least we can deal with that. Sorry, I got to rambling.

 

Let me also say that the student section may have gotten carried away, and I was worried about what my 13 year old daughter who keeps our stats was having to listen to but that in no way reflects on the school as a whole. There is probably some repenting needing to be done, but MOST of the cheering and trying to distract us was just part of the game, and to tell you the truth, some of it was pretty funny, there were some good stingers in there that made me laugh.

 

A number of FCS parents, faculty and staf came to me after the game and showed all kinds of class even apologizing for how things got a bit heated, (not that they needed to, competition teaches us, sometimes through our negative reactions.) I was not offended in the least and thought that those I spoke to were extremely humble and respectful.

 

As Xns we see sin for what it is, and we must never down play it, but it would be wise to always see our own sin as the bigger problem than everyone else's. I know who the "chief of sinners" is, and it is not anyone at FCS, it is the dope who is writing at 6:07am on this post.

 

Grace to cover all our sins....thanks for listening (reading) my rambling.

 

Kevin D. Skogen

 

Well put now maybe everyone can stop being so judgemental and just comment on basketball