Greeneville vs Cocke County IMAC

[barb]

In that game, Cocke County shot 47 free throws. Sullivan Central shot 40.

 

CC was whistled for 31 fouls. SC had 33.

 

It was a pretty evenly, tightly called game. It had to be - or there would've been a fight or two.

 

Friday's game was decently called too. There were a couple of head scratching calls/no calls...but they evened out. Cocke County lost the game by: 1) being unable to rebound. Had a couple of key possessions that led to multiple Greeneville offensive rebounds. Two possessions resulted in a combined 6 offensive rebounds and 6 Greeneville points. 2) Playing Greeneville's tempo in the second half. Cocke County wants to run and gun and shoot it 60 times a game, and Greeneville got them out of it and Cocke County didnt break 40 field goal attempts.

 

These two teams should have another good game in Newport in January. Not much separation in the boys league this year, as its a very down year for the league.

 

Thanks PT for the update...I have been unable to attend any games so far this season...you guys are my lifeline for a while I'm afraid. Really, we are kinda used to IMAC officiating....either all or nothing.

[hightop]

In that game, Cocke County shot 47 free throws. Sullivan Central shot 40.

 

CC was whistled for 31 fouls. SC had 33.

 

It was a pretty evenly, tightly called game. It had to be - or there would've been a fight or two.

 

Friday's game was decently called too. There were a couple of head scratching calls/no calls...but they evened out. Cocke County lost the game by: 1) being unable to rebound. Had a couple of key possessions that led to multiple Greeneville offensive rebounds. Two possessions resulted in a combined 6 offensive rebounds and 6 Greeneville points. 2) Playing Greeneville's tempo in the second half. Cocke County wants to run and gun and shoot it 60 times a game, and Greeneville got them out of it and Cocke County didnt break 40 field goal attempts.

 

These two teams should have another good game in Newport in January. Not much separation in the boys league this year, as its a very down year for the league.

 

 

You're a joke to say this was evenly called game!!! There's a lot of difference between touch fouls and getting hammered inside and nothing called. Everytime we made a run to get it to 3 or 4, the one certain ref (and I know you know whom I am talking about) made probably 80% of the calls pulled one out of the hat.

[noonesfool]

You're a joke to say this was evenly called game!!! There's a lot of difference between touch fouls and getting hammered inside and nothing called. Everytime we made a run to get it to 3 or 4, the one certain ref (and I know you know whom I am talking about) made probably 80% of the calls pulled one out of the hat.

 

You need to hit the front end of your 1and 1's /popcorneater.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":popcorneater:" border="0" alt="popcorneater.gif" /> We did in GreenEville /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

[Snowman16]

Unfortunately playing at Hal Henard has the reputation of bad officiating but I believe that pin pointing this problem on Duncan is off based.

 

Basically what I am saying is that I would love to hear a reason why it is like that up there, other than Duncan pays, harrasses, and tortures the officials.

[KardzGuy]

For someone from Cocke County to get on here and cry home cooking is a JOKE. When Sullivan Central went to Cocke County that was the biggest joke of officials I have ever seen. But we didn't get on here and start and thread about it. They fouled 2 point guards out with touch fouls on the perimeter, while the 2 big guys underneath from Cocke County had a license to kill. If I am correct Cocke County shot nearly 50 free throws, (WHAT A JOKE), and we still only lost by 4. So I say JUST TAKE A LITTLE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE. /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" />

 

Sorry to dissapoint you but I am from Greeneville and graduated from Greeneville High School. I haven't seen anyone from Cocke County on here complaining.

[KardzGuy]

Hahahahahaha...this is good stuff. I was unaware that Kardzguy was from Cocke County. That being the case, I completely agree with the above statement. You can lose 10 to 15 points at Cocke County on officiating alone. Good thing Cocke County is horrible. Not only did Greeneville play their worst game of the season, but they are down this year. You on one hand, blame this on officiating. I blame it on the fact that your team is pathetic. I was under the impression that the ball was on fire every time your boys got it Kardz. And hoop"god", not only are those the trashiest posts I have ever seen in my life, they are completely incorrect. Bill is an excellent coach as Barb proved. Also, he doesn't recruit. The fact that guys come to play for him only proves the caliber of coach he is. So allow me to make a guess here. You are 16 years old and go to CC high school. Or are you just ignorant hoops? I bet you can guess. In fact, I doubt you were at the game.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension ? I stated in the 2nd sentence that I was from Greeneville. I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to start making "ignorant" statements. Maybe you should read a post before you start posting replys to it.

In that game, Cocke County shot 47 free throws. Sullivan Central shot 40.CC was whistled for 31 fouls. SC had 33. It was a pretty evenly, tightly called game. It had to be - or there would've been a fight or two.Friday's game was decently called too. There were a couple of head scratching calls/no calls...but they evened out. Cocke County lost the game by: 1) being unable to rebound. Had a couple of key possessions that led to multiple Greeneville offensive rebounds. Two possessions resulted in a combined 6 offensive rebounds and 6 Greeneville points. 2) Playing Greeneville's tempo in the second half. Cocke County wants to run and gun and shoot it 60 times a game, and Greeneville got them out of it and Cocke County didnt break 40 field goal attempts.These two teams should have another good game in Newport in January. Not much separation in the boys league this year, as its a very down year for the league.

Thanks for a very professional reply.

[barb]

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension ? I stated in the 2nd sentence that I was from Greeneville. I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to start making "ignorant" statements. Maybe you should read a post before you start posting replys to it.Thanks for a very professional reply.

 

no...this is what you said...be careful who you call ignorant.

"How long will teams allow the refs at Greeneville to steal games. It is embarrasing to be from Greeneville and watch the officiating in that gym. "

 

You do NOT say you are from Greeneville....only that its embarrassing to be from Greeneville.

 

And about this statement

"Greeneville starts off 0 for 11 from the field, but goes to the line 16 times in the 1st half to only trail by one at halftime. Lets not forget that unless it's a shooting foul, we're not going to the line until after 7 fouls. For the game Greenevile shot 20 more free throws and wins by 11. "

This says nothing about how many fouls were called and could mean Greeneville only went to the line 8 times I believe the stat was 12-16. Gee Kardz, could they have actually had shooting fouls or maybe hit the first half of their 1 and 1?

If I were to evaluate this Greeneville games on stats, Cocke County shot well from the field and poorly from the stripe 19-36...53%, 5-11... 46% and Greeneville quite the opposite 14-40...35 %, 27-31... 87%. To put up those numbers from the line you HAVE to hit the first half of your 1 and 1. If CC does that they SHOOT MORE FOUL SHOTS, which is the stat you quoted... # of shots, NOT # of fouls.(and maybe they don't lose by 11) If you expect to use stats to make a point, use the correct stats and not the ones you can manipulate to your skewed view.

[carltondeewhite]

For someone from Cocke County to get on here and cry home cooking is a JOKE.

 

Now there's an UNDERSTATEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Have you never been to Cocke County????????????????????????????

 

As far as Coach Duncan not being able to coach and need the refs help, Coach Duncan may have had his problems over the years but not knowing how to coach is not one of them. For anyone to say he can't coach.........well there's only one thing to say...........you don't know much about basketball. Don't agree with everything the man has done over the years and have had some good battles with his teams but the man knows basketball.

[KardzGuy]

no...this is what you said...be careful who you call ignorant.

"How long will teams allow the refs at Greeneville to steal games. It is embarrasing to be from Greeneville and watch the officiating in that gym. "

 

You do NOT say you are from Greeneville....only that its embarrassing to be from Greeneville.

 

And about this statement

"Greeneville starts off 0 for 11 from the field, but goes to the line 16 times in the 1st half to only trail by one at halftime. Lets not forget that unless it's a shooting foul, we're not going to the line until after 7 fouls. For the game Greenevile shot 20 more free throws and wins by 11. "

This says nothing about how many fouls were called and could mean Greeneville only went to the line 8 times I believe the stat was 12-16. Gee Kardz, could they have actually had shooting fouls or maybe hit the first half of their 1 and 1?

If I were to evaluate this Greeneville games on stats, Cocke County shot well from the field and poorly from the stripe 19-36...53%, 5-11... 46% and Greeneville quite the opposite 14-40...35 %, 27-31... 87%. To put up those numbers from the line you HAVE to hit the first half of your 1 and 1. If CC does that they SHOOT MORE FOUL SHOTS, which is the stat you quoted... # of shots, NOT # of fouls.(and maybe they don't lose by 11) If you expect to use stats to make a point, use the correct stats and not the ones you can manipulate to your skewed view.

 

Sorry to dissapoint you Barb, but according to the box scores printing in the Greeneville Sun, Cocke County was 5 for 11. Let's assume they make all of their 1st shots, that would make them 5 of 10, if they missed all of their 2nd. If every shot was a one-and-one, and they missed all of their 1st shots except 5, they would have only gotten 6 more attempts. Again, my point, at best Greeneville still gets 14 more attempts from the line than CC. On your 1st statement, how could I be embarassed to be from Greeneville, if I'm not FROM Greeneville. Kinda obvious. My statement of ignorant was only in reply to someone using the term 1st, but obviously not completely reading the post. Evidently someone needs to see what Webster's has to say about "ignorant".

[hoopgod30]

Sorry to dissapoint you Barb, but according to the box scores printing in the Greeneville Sun, Cocke County was 5 for 11. Let's assume they make all of their 1st shots, that would make them 5 of 10, if they missed all of their 2nd. If every shot was a one-and-one, and they missed all of their 1st shots except 5, they would have only gotten 6 more attempts. Again, my point, at best Greeneville still gets 14 more attempts from the line than CC. On your 1st statement, how could I be embarassed to be from Greeneville, if I'm not FROM Greeneville. Kinda obvious. My statement of ignorant was only in reply to someone using the term 1st, but obviously not completely reading the post. Evidently someone needs to see what Webster's has to say about "ignorant".

 

 

Barb unless I am mistaken you said in an earlier post that you have not attended a game this year. I dont understand how you can say that the refs were fair and that CC should have hit the front end of their 1&1's if you were not even there to see what actually took place in the game.

[hoopgod30]

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension ? I stated in the 2nd sentence that I was from Greeneville. I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to start making "ignorant" statements. Maybe you should read a post before you start posting replys to it.Thanks for a very professional reply.

 

 

As for what_a_games quote I am not a 16 year old boy from CC. I am a grown man and have lived in Greeneville for 10 years. Some may say that my earlier comments were ignorant in regards to how I feel about Duncan. I agree that he has a proven record outside of Greeneville basketball, but you cant argue the fact that Duncan recruits his players. And if Duncan is as good of a coach as you and barb think he is why is he coaching in the IMAC instead of coaching college or even pro?

[KardzGuy]

No, I believe you said "It is a total embarassment that Bill Duncan has to get officials to win the games for him because he is not a good enough coach to win on talent". That sir is a slam at the coach, not the officials. You obviously don't know anything about East Tennessee basketball is if that is your assessment of Duncan. Perhaps it would help if you looked into his background. The man was a college coach and Olympic coach before coming back to coach HS ball. You are way out of line with the above statement.

 

Barb, I need some help. You stated that Bill Duncan was an Olympic coach. Could you please give me some more information on this. I had thought that he was a coach on the Kuwaiti National Team. According to Kuwait's Official Olympic Site, Kuwait has never even played an "Olympic" basketball game. I was just curious and trying to get some clarification on this.