cbhs vs usj

[2blLeg]

75% of the crowd didn't know why he was ejected for two reasons. 1. It was the tail end of a play so if you weren't looking you didn't see the incident. 2. If you weren't close enough to hear what Gant was saying ( certain words, use your imagination) then you probably wouldn't understand why he was tossed.

 

On another note, your more than welcome to disagree with any call you'd like. I don't think Martinez was out at first on that pick, so I disagreed and the game went on. Yell and gripe from the stands all you want, but unfortunately for you the only opinion that matters is that of the umpire.

 

 

Ok, fair enough. Not sure what was said, and maybe that was a huge part of the reasoning. I just hated to not see these two great young men battle it out. Not Smith's fault, he sure did his part.

 

Totally agree with you on the Martinez call, no way was he out. The tag was way up on his hip, so based on where the 1B was, it was physically impossible for him to be out.

 

BUT, again, let's not take away from Smith's performance, great job out there.

[lifesapitch]

sorry -- you just nullified your previous post.

 

Under no circumstance should behavior like this be tolerated or justified. I'm sure Gant's parents, teammates and coaches -- and Gant himself -- would tell you the same thing. From the sound of it, we're not just talking about questioning balls and strikes. We're talking about verbal and physical behavior that is unacceptable. Period.

 

It was a mistake. Learn from it and move on!

 

Under no circumstance should an umpire put his hands on a player behavior like this should not be tolerated or justified. There was no unacceptable physical behavior from Gant or are you referring to when he threw his cap into the dugout. I'm sure you have no clue what Gant's parents think of this. They do know every word that was said and what really happened. They were watching Clayton the whole time before, during, and after the "incident". At no time was he in the umps face and at no time did he initiate contact with the ump.

"Baseballislife" get a grip!!!! that goes for you too hsbaseballfan03

[BaseballIsLife]

Under no circumstance should an umpire put his hands on a player behavior like this should not be tolerated or justified. There was no unacceptable physical behavior from Gant or are you referring to when he threw his cap into the dugout. I'm sure you have no clue what Gant's parents think of this. They do know every word that was said and what really happened. They were watching Clayton the whole time before, during, and after the "incident". At no time was he in the umps face and at no time did he initiate contact with the ump.

"Baseballislife" get a grip!!!! that goes for you too hsbaseballfan03

 

 

In case you missed my first post (#18) lifesapitch check out below. I think I've got a pretty good grip, thank you!

 

"hsbaseballfan03, I have to agree with you. No matter the circumstance, a high school player should NEVER cross this line. I gotta believe that the coach at USJ talked directly to the player about this and that it will never happen again -- and that he has reinforced with his entire team that under no circumstances is anyone to question an ump -- and if they do, they're on the bench -- no matter who they are.

 

And as a senior, I'm sure Gant has already apologized to his teammates for this. No doubt it is a moment in this kid's brillant career that he'll always regret -- especially since it was against CBHS and guys he's played with and against.

 

Let him move on."

[hsbaseballfan03]

I believe I have a pretty good grip too. I don't want that one night to define Clayton but at the same time I have in no way embellished what I saw. I don't know what your talking about the umpiring putting his hands on Clayton in an inappropriate way? That is the first I have heard of that from anyone...if it was that inappropriate I would think that Coach Dyer would've done something, don't you? If he punched him or even shoved him I could see your point but neither did anything close to that. It did look like a little contact was made and it looked like Gant initiated the contact (not in a malicious way) while arguing over calls ( he had question a call TWO pitches before from the mound). He was OBVIOUSLY frustrated especially when he paced around the mound while mouthing about calls. I don't know how his parents reacted or how he or his team feels about it. I do know no one else seemed to have a hard time keeping their composure and mouth shut, which lead to no one else on either side being ejected.

[Shelia]

didn't CBHS have a player tossed from a state championship game a few years ago for cursing at an umpire? I think he was forgiven when their coach apologized to the umpire haha

Guess it depends on who yells the loudest and the longest

[hsbaseballfan03]

didn't CBHS have a player tossed from a state championship game a few years ago for cursing at an umpire? I think he was forgiven when their coach apologized to the umpire haha

Guess it depends on who yells the loudest and the longest

 

 

 

He wasn't tossed because he finished the game. The umpire thought he was cussing at him but then realized he wasn't. Why changed the subject though? Are you admitting Gant was wrong and now looking for others flaws to make it easier to accept?

[DancesWithTrout]

Gant is a competitor....he wasnt getting the calls he needed to keep CBHS off balance...he would get to a 2-0 count almost every at bat and then had to groove pitches down the middle. I am in no way taking anything away from CBHS. They are a great hitting team. But it is hard to be an effective pitcher when the only strike the umpire is giving you is the same pitch that hitters dream about at night. Gant just got a little overheated and lost control for a couple of seconds.

[brosbaseball9]

didn't CBHS have a player tossed from a state championship game a few years ago for cursing at an umpire? I think he was forgiven when their coach apologized to the umpire haha

Guess it depends on who yells the loudest and the longest

 

 

he was allowed to finish because Christian Brothers cheats...everyone knows this is the only way the Brothers have won more state titles than any other school, regardless of classification. duh.

 

getting back on topic--wish id have seen what happened. its sad that a high school kid feels the need to show his ace like that. he may be a competitor, but its sad. very sad.

 

tide roll.

[ohstarpstaff]

i drove all the way from oakland friday afternoon (even knowing there was rain on the way and that oaklands coach would be expecting me to tarp the field) to see what i THOUGHT would be a great highschool baseball game. the only thing i saw was an umpire who got power hungry and wanted some spot light... WELL YOU GOT IT BUDDY! that was the worst calling in any sport that i have EVER seen! and for those of you that say it wasnt in CBHS's favor are crazy! the brothers pitcher was geting curveballs and fastballs that the catcher scooped out of the dirt called for strikes, and gant and the other pitcher (who i heard was a SOPHOMORE) were not getting corners, knees or letters.... they had to throw fastball ###### shots down the middle of the plate! yes CBHS you are ranked in the nation, but Po Dunk could hit a ball if it was thrown there! and then on top of that i heard after the game of comments the umpire had made to the catcher such as "If you keep freezing and framing the ball you will not get another call all night." that is rediculous, and he should be kicked out of the TSSAA and baseball for life! but congrats on the win... idk who wouldnt have won if they had that in their favor!

 

as for gants display.... as a former pitcher i would have done the same exact thing! i do not think Gant touched or said ANYTHING inappropriate to the umpire... i usually agree that you dont argue balls and strikes, but if you were not at the game it was unlike anything you could imagine! so hold your head up Gant, you did NOTHING wrong!

 

wont be able to make it to the game Tuesday because they have us doing 2 aday tarp drills, but i expect it will be a good game, and hopefully umpired well!

[hasbeen7]

i drove all the way from oakland friday afternoon (even knowing there was rain on the way and that oaklands coach would be expecting me to tarp the field) to see what i THOUGHT would be a great highschool baseball game. the only thing i saw was an umpire who got power hungry and wanted some spot light... WELL YOU GOT IT BUDDY! that was the worst calling in any sport that i have EVER seen! and for those of you that say it wasnt in CBHS's favor are crazy! the brothers pitcher was geting curveballs and fastballs that the catcher scooped out of the dirt called for strikes, and gant and the other pitcher (who i heard was a SOPHOMORE) were not getting corners, knees or letters.... they had to throw fastball ###### shots down the middle of the plate! yes CBHS you are ranked in the nation, but Po Dunk could hit a ball if it was thrown there! and then on top of that i heard after the game of comments the umpire had made to the catcher such as "If you keep freezing and framing the ball you will not get another call all night." that is rediculous, and he should be kicked out of the TSSAA and baseball for life! but congrats on the win... idk who wouldnt have won if they had that in their favor!

 

as for gants display.... as a former pitcher i would have done the same exact thing! i do not think Gant touched or said ANYTHING inappropriate to the umpire... i usually agree that you dont argue balls and strikes, but if you were not at the game it was unlike anything you could imagine! so hold your head up Gant, you did NOTHING wrong!

 

wont be able to make it to the game Tuesday because they have us doing 2 aday tarp drills, but i expect it will be a good game, and hopefully umpired well!

 

You know tarpman, I even heard rumor (from reliable sources) that CBHS coach was going to "report the ump". Assuming this is true, what would he be reporting? What a wonderful job the ump did? The true test will be Tuesday at USJ - will USJ respond, will the umps know their butts from a hole in the ground (probably), will CBHS be as effective at the plate without the benefit of having it set on a tee for them ? We'll see. Keep up the good work tarpman. BTW, ya'll played in any dust-settling gulleywashers lately?

[ohstarpstaff]

You know tarpman, I even heard rumor (from reliable sources) that CBHS coach was going to "report the ump". Assuming this is true, what would he be reporting? What a wonderful job the ump did? The true test will be Tuesday at USJ - will USJ respond, will the umps know their butts from a hole in the ground (probably), will CBHS be as effective at the plate without the benefit of having it set on a tee for them ? We'll see. Keep up the good work tarpman. BTW, ya'll played in any dust-settling gulleywashers lately?

 

 

haha exactly what i was thinking hasbeen! im sure the cbhs coach was loving it! but yes.. tuesday will be the true test of USJs character, and i hope for goodness sakes that the umps will be better!

 

well its starting to rain down here in Murfreesboro so im about to gather the tarp crew.... and to answer your question we havent played in a gulleywasher since the Warrior Classic! make sure you post he score of the game hasbeen so i can see how things pan out in the bruins vs. brothers match-up... it should be interesting

[hsbaseballfan03]

i drove all the way from oakland friday afternoon (even knowing there was rain on the way and that oaklands coach would be expecting me to tarp the field) to see what i THOUGHT would be a great highschool baseball game. the only thing i saw was an umpire who got power hungry and wanted some spot light... WELL YOU GOT IT BUDDY! that was the worst calling in any sport that i have EVER seen! and for those of you that say it wasnt in CBHS's favor are crazy! the brothers pitcher was geting curveballs and fastballs that the catcher scooped out of the dirt called for strikes, and gant and the other pitcher (who i heard was a SOPHOMORE) were not getting corners, knees or letters.... they had to throw fastball ###### shots down the middle of the plate! yes CBHS you are ranked in the nation, but Po Dunk could hit a ball if it was thrown there! and then on top of that i heard after the game of comments the umpire had made to the catcher such as "If you keep freezing and framing the ball you will not get another call all night." that is rediculous, and he should be kicked out of the TSSAA and baseball for life! but congrats on the win... idk who wouldnt have won if they had that in their favor!

 

as for gants display.... as a former pitcher i would have done the same exact thing! i do not think Gant touched or said ANYTHING inappropriate to the umpire... i usually agree that you dont argue balls and strikes, but if you were not at the game it was unlike anything you could imagine! so hold your head up Gant, you did NOTHING wrong!

 

wont be able to make it to the game Tuesday because they have us doing 2 aday tarp drills, but i expect it will be a good game, and hopefully umpired well!

 

 

 

I laughed pretty hard when I read this one. Like I said...I was in the dugout. Never seen either ump. Thought they were below average all the way around but both teams had to deal with it. CBHS was by far the better team that night. When they go up there Tuesday if we get beat you won't see me making excuses (or one of our players getting tossed). If we win you won't see me bragging either. I know USJ is talented so it does mean something to beat them. I've gotten my say in, I know what I saw and I know the umps weren't the best quality. Nough said from me about the game.