randymc Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Finishing 1st or 2nd and finishing in the top half of your "A" does get you in the playoffs. But after looking at the ways that you qualify for the wild card spots in the playoffs, you are not rewarded for playing tough teams unless you beat them. A 5A or 6A team would be better served by finding a good 1A or 2A that will safely make the playoffs and pay them a nice sum to come and be a sacrificial lamb ..... that sounds just like college football to me. So a team that you beat in your district (same class), if you finished third and they finished fourth but they had a better overall record for playing lower class teams they may get a wildcard and not you for beating them head to head and having a tougher overall schedule Yes, see District 8AAA, Shelbyville will most likely finish 4th with a better overall record than Tullahoma. Even though Tullahoma beat Shelbyville last week, Shelbyville would get the wildcard bid over Tullahoma because their over all record would be better. Insane, but thats the way the rules are. Tullhoma really needs to beat Siegel this Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THSVikings2004 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Looking at the wildcard rankings this how quad 1 looks after week 8. 1.Tennessee 2. South 3.Daniel Boone 4. Morristown West 5. Morristown East 6. David Crockett 7. Powell 8. Seymour So would these be the matchups if the above stayed the same? Seymour @ Tennessee High Powell @ Sullivan South Morristown East @ Daniel Boone David Crockett @ Morristown West - had to switch Crockett and East so they wouldn't play teams from the same district Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germxx Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Finishing 1st or 2nd and finishing in the top half of your "A" does get you in the playoffs. But after looking at the ways that you qualify for the wild card spots in the playoffs, you are not rewarded for playing tough teams unless you beat them. A 5A or 6A team would be better served by finding a good 1A or 2A that will safely make the playoffs and pay them a nice sum to come and be a sacrificial lamb ..... that sounds just like college football to me. So a team that you beat in your district (same class), if you finished third and they finished fourth but they had a better overall record for playing lower class teams they may get a wildcard and not you for beating them head to head and having a tougher overall schedule Yes, see District 8AAA, Shelbyville will most likely finish 4th with a better overall record than Tullahoma. Even though Tullahoma beat Shelbyville last week, Shelbyville would get the wildcard bid over Tullahoma because their over all record would be better. Insane, but thats the way the rules are. Tullhoma really needs to beat Siegel this Friday. I think Tullahoma really needs to beat Lawrence Co to get into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twillie Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 POD 1Tennessee Daniel Boone Sullivan South Morristown West Morristown East Seymour/Cherokee Winner Powell David Crockett* POD 2 Clinton Anderson Co Knoxville Catholic Cleveland Cumberland Co/White Co Winner Columbia Lawrence Co Shelbyville POD 3 Beech Gallatin Henry Co Clarksville NE Clarksville NW Hendersonville* Clarksville* Springfield* POD 4 Hillsboro/Centennial winner Glencliff Hardin Co Jackson Northside Craigmont Ridgeway Melrose Mitchell IF Lawrence Co loses to Tullahoma, put Lawrence Co in POD 2 for Shelbyville and move Shelbyville to POD 3 for Springfield. What is your basis for having Henry County in pod three, rather than pod four? Just wondered if you knew something that we don't know around here. Guys, guys.... Where is all of the "pod" talk coming from? IF you follow the rules available on the TSSAA website, once all 32 teams are determined, the state will be divided in half (east to west) with 16 teams in each half by their geographic location. THEN, each half will be divided again (north to south) to create 4 "quadrants". There is NO WAY for Henry Co. to reside in the Memphis quandrant (they are too far north), so they should be lumped similar to the grouping I quoted above. However, I DO feel TSSAA made up this rediculous playoff idea so that, in the end, they can group whomever they want into the 4 quandrants. And, yes, it IS possible for 5 teams to come out of District 10, so someone in that district can certainly be playing another district member in the 1st round. (CRAZY) I think, too, they are trying to manipulate this for the benefit of middle TN - the possibility exists for 2 middle TN teams to reach the championship but not 2 West or East.... (of course, it was kinda like that before...) I suggest, if you haven't visited it, that you go to TSSAA and "play" with the playoff scheme... they have a page dedicated to the playoffs where you can develop the quadrants - they even have a map you can divide up on your own (of course, using your best guess of playoff members at this point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1new_wildcat_fan Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 THis is a great new system no one really knows until Saturday Morning October 31. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Warrior Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 POD 1Tennessee Daniel Boone Sullivan South Morristown West Morristown East Seymour/Cherokee Winner Powell David Crockett* POD 2 Clinton Anderson Co Knoxville Catholic Cleveland Cumberland Co/White Co Winner Columbia Lawrence Co Shelbyville POD 3 Beech Gallatin Henry Co Clarksville NE Clarksville NW Hendersonville* Clarksville* Springfield* POD 4 Hillsboro/Centennial winner Glencliff Hardin Co Jackson Northside Craigmont Ridgeway Melrose Mitchell IF Lawrence Co loses to Tullahoma, put Lawrence Co in POD 2 for Shelbyville and move Shelbyville to POD 3 for Springfield. What is your basis for having Henry County in pod three, rather than pod four? Just wondered if you knew something that we don't know around here. Guys, guys.... Where is all of the "pod" talk coming from? IF you follow the rules available on the TSSAA website, once all 32 teams are determined, the state will be divided in half (east to west) with 16 teams in each half by their geographic location. THEN, each half will be divided again (north to south) to create 4 "quadrants". There is NO WAY for Henry Co. to reside in the Memphis quandrant (they are too far north), so they should be lumped similar to the grouping I quoted above. However, I DO feel TSSAA made up this rediculous playoff idea so that, in the end, they can group whomever they want into the 4 quandrants. And, yes, it IS possible for 5 teams to come out of District 10, so someone in that district can certainly be playing another district member in the 1st round. (CRAZY) I think, too, they are trying to manipulate this for the benefit of middle TN - the possibility exists for 2 middle TN teams to reach the championship but not 2 West or East.... (of course, it was kinda like that before...) I suggest, if you haven't visited it, that you go to TSSAA and "play" with the playoff scheme... they have a page dedicated to the playoffs where you can develop the quadrants - they even have a map you can divide up on your own (of course, using your best guess of playoff members at this point). I looked on the website but didn't see anything about the North/South division that you spoke of. Where did you see that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germxx Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Finishing 1st or 2nd and finishing in the top half of your "A" does get you in the playoffs. But after looking at the ways that you qualify for the wild card spots in the playoffs, you are not rewarded for playing tough teams unless you beat them. A 5A or 6A team would be better served by finding a good 1A or 2A that will safely make the playoffs and pay them a nice sum to come and be a sacrificial lamb ..... that sounds just like college football to me. So a team that you beat in your district (same class), if you finished third and they finished fourth but they had a better overall record for playing lower class teams they may get a wildcard and not you for beating them head to head and having a tougher overall schedule Yes, see District 8AAA, Shelbyville will most likely finish 4th with a better overall record than Tullahoma. Even though Tullahoma beat Shelbyville last week, Shelbyville would get the wildcard bid over Tullahoma because their over all record would be better. Insane, but thats the way the rules are. Tullhoma really needs to beat Siegel this Friday. so RandyMc with your example: Tullahoma leads shelbyville in 4 out of the 10 catagories for wildcard/ tie them on 3 catagories and only loose 1 catagory this would send shelbyville to the playoffs instead of tullahoma? shelbyville plays white county and marshall co 1-15 now and tullahoma plays blackman and cookeville that have 2 loses and are 6a schools? tough one to swallow for tullhaoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 You hit the nail on the head germxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randymc Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 So a team that you beat in your district (same class), if you finished third and they finished fourth but they had a better overall record for playing lower class teams they may get a wildcard and not you for beating them head to head and having a tougher overall schedule Yes, see District 8AAA, Shelbyville will most likely finish 4th with a better overall record than Tullahoma. Even though Tullahoma beat Shelbyville last week, Shelbyville would get the wildcard bid over Tullahoma because their over all record would be better. Insane, but thats the way the rules are. Tullhoma really needs to beat Siegel this Friday. so RandyMc with your example: Tullahoma leads shelbyville in 4 out of the 10 catagories for wildcard/ tie them on 3 catagories and only loose 1 catagory this would send shelbyville to the playoffs instead of tullahoma? shelbyville plays white county and marshall co 1-15 now and tullahoma plays blackman and cookeville that have 2 loses and are 6a schools? tough one to swallow for tullhaoma. That's what I read. Overall record is the #1 criteria for choosing a wildcard team. Call it a flaw in the system, but that's the system. Oakland couldn't even find teams to play this year and played Ensworth (maybe the best team in the state) and Christian Co KY (top 10 KY team) because of it. Teams will learn to schedule down, which will end up the worst thing for football overall. Plus teams like Oakland, Franklin, Farragut and Riverdale will have to play each other because who would play them, when overall record is the #1 wildcard criteria. I would prefer some BCS type system honestly. Maybe coacht's success vs. strength ratings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randymc Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Also, what happens when all the results of next Friday's games aren't in at 8:00 AM on Saturday morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twillie Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Guys, guys.... Where is all of the "pod" talk coming from? IF you follow the rules available on the TSSAA website, once all 32 teams are determined, the state will be divided in half (east to west) with 16 teams in each half by their geographic location. THEN, each half will be divided again (north to south) to create 4 "quadrants". There is NO WAY for Henry Co. to reside in the Memphis quandrant (they are too far north), so they should be lumped similar to the grouping I quoted above. However, I DO feel TSSAA made up this rediculous playoff idea so that, in the end, they can group whomever they want into the 4 quandrants. And, yes, it IS possible for 5 teams to come out of District 10, so someone in that district can certainly be playing another district member in the 1st round. (CRAZY) I think, too, they are trying to manipulate this for the benefit of middle TN - the possibility exists for 2 middle TN teams to reach the championship but not 2 West or East.... (of course, it was kinda like that before...) I suggest, if you haven't visited it, that you go to TSSAA and "play" with the playoff scheme... they have a page dedicated to the playoffs where you can develop the quadrants - they even have a map you can divide up on your own (of course, using your best guess of playoff members at this point). I looked on the website but didn't see anything about the North/South division that you spoke of. Where did you see that? You are right - I didn't find it completely explained either. I may be mistaken by assuming the definition of "quadrant" as cutting into 4 quarters by 2 lines 90 degrees to each other (yea, that's the definition). They (TSSAA) used to have a video on their site explaining this new system, and if I recall correctly, that was how it was described... cutting the state east-west, then north-south. But, there again, the less descriptive, the more they (TSSAA) can manipulate this into whatever they want it to be.... I did read, however, on TSSAA - the playoff rules portion - that 5 teams from the same district can be in the same "quadrant", therefore, 2 teams from the same district can have a 1st round game. Springfield would have to make it from district 10 though (and they are out right now, but next on the wildcard list!). Maybe, my bad, but still fun to play with. Here is the link... http://www.tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/index.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Guys, guys.... Where is all of the "pod" talk coming from? IF you follow the rules available on the TSSAA website, once all 32 teams are determined, the state will be divided in half (east to west) with 16 teams in each half by their geographic location. THEN, each half will be divided again (north to south) to create 4 "quadrants". There is NO WAY for Henry Co. to reside in the Memphis quandrant (they are too far north), so they should be lumped similar to the grouping I quoted above.However, I DO feel TSSAA made up this rediculous playoff idea so that, in the end, they can group whomever they want into the 4 quandrants. And, yes, it IS possible for 5 teams to come out of District 10, so someone in that district can certainly be playing another district member in the 1st round. (CRAZY) I think, too, they are trying to manipulate this for the benefit of middle TN - the possibility exists for 2 middle TN teams to reach the championship but not 2 West or East.... (of course, it was kinda like that before...) I suggest, if you haven't visited it, that you go to TSSAA and "play" with the playoff scheme... they have a page dedicated to the playoffs where you can develop the quadrants - they even have a map you can divide up on your own (of course, using your best guess of playoff members at this point). I looked on the website but didn't see anything about the North/South division that you spoke of. Where did you see that? You are right - I didn't find it completely explained either. I may be mistaken by assuming the definition of "quadrant" as cutting into 4 quarters by 2 lines 90 degrees to each other (yea, that's the definition). They (TSSAA) used to have a video on their site explaining this new system, and if I recall correctly, that was how it was described... cutting the state east-west, then north-south. But, there again, the less descriptive, the more they (TSSAA) can manipulate this into whatever they want it to be.... I did read, however, on TSSAA - the playoff rules portion - that 5 teams from the same district can be in the same "quadrant", therefore, 2 teams from the same district can have a 1st round game. Springfield would have to make it from district 10 though (and they are out right now, but next on the wildcard list!). Maybe, my bad, but still fun to play with. Here is the link... http://www.tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/index.cfm District 10 will have 5 teams in the playoffs. However, none will play each other in the first round. Nor, will they all be in the same quadrant. This you can bet on. Don't forget, 2 out of this district will make the playoffs in 6A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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