Schools Violating Seating Capacity

[DyronNix]

I was reading the TSSAA winter news, and saw some interesting things under the disciplinary actions. I saw where several schools had the following violation. I was wondering exactly what this involved for them to get the violation. Also, not allowing off-season practice does not seem fair to the kids who play for these teams. They can't help the size of their gymnasium. Also, what do they have to do so this won't keep reoccurring? Involved in this were: Oliver Springs Boys and Girls, Clarkrange Girls, I guess the fans leave before the boys get started.

 

Violation of minimum

seating capacity

requirement

 

School fined $3,000. No off-season practice for boys?

and girls? basketball and school not to host any boys? and

girls? basketball tournament games for 2009-10 and 2010-

11 school years.

[icecold06]

I was reading the TSSAA winter news, and saw some interesting things under the disciplinary actions. I saw where several schools had the following violation. I was wondering exactly what this involved for them to get the violation. Also, not allowing off-season practice does not seem fair to the kids who play for these teams. They can't help the size of their gymnasium. Also, what do they have to do so this won't keep reoccurring? Involved in this were: Oliver Springs Boys and Girls, Clarkrange Girls, I guess the fans leave before the boys get started.

 

Violation of minimum

seating capacity

requirement

 

School fined $3,000. No off-season practice for boys?

and girls? basketball and school not to host any boys? and

girls? basketball tournament games for 2009-10 and 2010-

11 school years.

maybe the T$$AA should refund the $3,000 and let them host so they can have enough money to add seating or save up and build a new gym. Just a thought but I guess thats too much like right huh?

[DNJKreager]

This violation has to do with postseason seating requirements. I believe, specifically, it has to do with sectional sites not being big enough. Here are the requirements:

 

Sectional Sites – The Executive Director of TSSAA shall set the sectional sites in the area of the regional

winner. In order to be considered as a sectional site, the facility must meet the following seating criteria:

Class A – 1,000; Class AA – 1,250; Class AAA – 1,500. These are to be permanent seats and based on

18” width.

[The Highlander]

As you can see from the above post listing the seating requirements, the TSSAA has shown again, its inability to do basic math, and to follow any sort of appropriate logic. The small schools are the ones being penalized with this inane rule.

 

For instance, at Cloudland, we have a student population of less than 250 students, but are required to provide seating for 1000, 4 times the student body.

 

Yet an AA school such as Elizabethton must only provide seats for 1250, which (going from memory only) is about twice their student body number.

 

A AAA school, such as Science Hill, one of the larger schools in the state, only must seat 1500 people. As I recall, they have nearly that many students.

 

There is no logic, no linear formula, no thought involved in the TSSAA rules for these requirements.

 

The smaller schools can't afford to build gyms that large for the most part, and they should not be required to provide that number of seats.

 

The TSSAA would do well to refocus a little thought on these numbers. As someone else said, stop putting TSSAA income ahead of the needs of the schools and athletes.

 

The Highlander

[CoachT]

As you can see from the above post listing the seating requirements, the TSSAA has shown again, its inability to do basic math, and to follow any sort of appropriate logic. The small schools are the ones being penalized with this inane rule.

 

For instance, at Cloudland, we have a student population of less than 250 students, but are required to provide seating for 1000, 4 times the student body.

 

Yet an AA school such as Elizabethton must only provide seats for 1250, which (going from memory only) is about twice their student body number.

 

A AAA school, such as Science Hill, one of the larger schools in the state, only must seat 1500 people. As I recall, they have nearly that many students.

 

There is no logic, no linear formula, no thought involved in the TSSAA rules for these requirements.

 

The smaller schools can't afford to build gyms that large for the most part, and they should not be required to provide that number of seats.

 

The TSSAA would do well to refocus a little thought on these numbers. As someone else said, stop putting TSSAA income ahead of the needs of the schools and athletes.

 

The Highlander

The rule came about when fans traveled long distances to tournament games but could not get in because it was sold out.

[ptguard12]

As you can see from the above post listing the seating requirements, the TSSAA has shown again, its inability to do basic math, and to follow any sort of appropriate logic. The small schools are the ones being penalized with this inane rule.

 

For instance, at Cloudland, we have a student population of less than 250 students, but are required to provide seating for 1000, 4 times the student body.

 

Yet an AA school such as Elizabethton must only provide seats for 1250, which (going from memory only) is about twice their student body number.

 

A AAA school, such as Science Hill, one of the larger schools in the state, only must seat 1500 people. As I recall, they have nearly that many students.

 

There is no logic, no linear formula, no thought involved in the TSSAA rules for these requirements.

 

The smaller schools can't afford to build gyms that large for the most part, and they should not be required to provide that number of seats.

 

The TSSAA would do well to refocus a little thought on these numbers. As someone else said, stop putting TSSAA income ahead of the needs of the schools and athletes.

 

The Highlander

The rule came about when fans traveled long distances to tournament games but could not get in because it was sold out.

 

And it was mainly the small Class A schools whose tournament games were sold out. It is usually those small town teams that will bring the most people with them, because of the community support they receive. This is why the seating capacity is not a problem for AA and AAA (for the most part), because RARELY will you find one of those games even close to being sold-out (more students and larger school, but less community support and fans). So, I can see both sides of the argument. However, when you are traveling two hours to a sub-state game, one would hope that they actually have enough room for everyone to come in and actually watch the game. If you gym isn't big enough, you need to find one that is, so that you can accommodate both teams and their fans.

[DyronNix]

I agree that it stinks when you travel a great deal and can't get in, but the fact they are taking off season from theses schools is overboard. Do not punish the team for something out of their control. I do not mind the fine. It is very steep, and that should be enough punishment for the situation and TSSAA gets their money. Maybe these schools need to look at moving to another location, or maybe TSSAA could actually help them find another place to play. These schools might be small and bring in a lot of fans, but it seems the TSSAA could do more to help these problems.

[CoachT]

I agree that it stinks when you travel a great deal and can't get in, but the fact they are taking off season from theses schools is overboard. Do not punish the team for something out of their control. I do not mind the fine. It is very steep, and that should be enough punishment for the situation and TSSAA gets their money. Maybe these schools need to look at moving to another location, or maybe TSSAA could actually help them find another place to play. These schools might be small and bring in a lot of fans, but it seems the TSSAA could do more to help these problems.

The fine is for schools that claimed they had a certain capacity and, after the games were played, it was discovered that they were wrong. The punishment is for schools who try to get around the rule.