Question for old timers

[rollredroll]

Dont forget Hillsboro/Franklin calling it a "tie" a couple of years ago due to weather.

 

While I do recall that game, the TSSAA struck the game from the record as if it never occurred since no attempt was made to play the remaining portion of the game at a later time.

[clintabbott]

The correct year is 1969 when playoffs started.

[HTV]

The correct year is 1969 when playoffs started.

 

 

Actually, 1973 is the correct year according to the National Federation. I have verified ties as late as 1972 in regular season games in Tennessee.

[coach1076]

My records show games ending in ties as late as 1972, so I would assume 1973 was the year that ties were played off in overtime.

 

coach763, in the listing of scores for that 1969 game, the Nashville papers were showing that game ending in a 0-0 tie, so if overtime were played, the papers missed it. In fact, the papers from that year show each team having another tie game (Cameron with Litton and Donelson with Two Rivers).

 

An interesting trivia question would be what one Tennessee program has had a tie game since 1973? If there's more than one, I haven't seen it, but I do know of one.

 

Rollredroll,

It looks as if you access to some type of database for newspapers reporting historical scores. How did you find that? I would be interested in looking up some old scores for a few games.Is there a way that I can look up old newspapers that may have information like that on line? Specifically in the Knoxville area but may need to look up a few down in the nashville area as well.

[rollredroll]

Rollredroll,

It looks as if you access to some type of database for newspapers reporting historical scores. How did you find that? I would be interested in looking up some old scores for a few games.Is there a way that I can look up old newspapers that may have information like that on line? Specifically in the Knoxville area but may need to look up a few down in the nashville area as well.

 

The State Archives in Nashville has essentially all papers ever printed in the state on microfilm. That's where I do my research. If you are not in Nashville or live conveniently near Nashville, I would call your local library to see what papers it has on microfilm.

 

Finding old scores is a painstaking task, even for just one school (and I am trying to do it for 400+). Games get postponed, scores get misreported, there are score discrepancies between score listings and box scores, blurry copies, etc., etc. But, the information is out there to be had; you just need time, patience, and access to microfilm at the library.

 

At the bottom of this post is a link to a database I keep for scores. For the older scores (i.e., before the Internet became a mainstream tool in the early-to-mid 90s), I have pulled most of the scores from microfilm (some individual schools have sent in contributions as well). See if the scores/years you need are there: if not, I may be sitting on some hard copies that I just haven't had time to upload yet. I have actually dug fairly deep in Knoxville this year (the city schools and the two privates in particular), so there may be something of use under those teams' pages.

[visionaire]

I am working to get ahead on some entries for a football publication for the 2011 season. Can any of you recall what year the current overtime rule took effect in Tennessee High School football? I've checked just about every online source I know of, and have asked some folks I thought might be able to help, but can't find it. Coaches and others who have been around a while - can you remember what year it was?

 

Thanks. I appreciate your help.

 

 

Reasonably certain it was 1975. I recall that until that time a tie breaker was optional. In 1975...You broke the tie if it was a conference game. Games against out of state opponents was based on the approval of both coaches in tie breaker situations!

[OldRebel2]

Lots of folks are right. I believe, the right answer is 1973 for the regular season AND 1969 for the playoffs. In 1969 (through at least 1971), during the playoffs the ball was put on the 50-yard-line for the overtime period (there had to be a winner). Each team got 4 plays..which ever side of the fifty the ball ended up on won the game (unless someone scored, of course, then it came back to the 50-yard-line). In 1971, Maryville scored very late and went for 2 against Kingston. Maryville didn't make the 2 point conversion and lost 14-13. One of the reasons, Maryville went for 2 rather than play the overtime period is because the Rebels didn't like their chances by placing the ball on the 50 for four downs. (As it turned out, maybe they should have.)

[rollredroll]

I believe, the right answer is 1973 for the regular season AND 1969 for the playoffs.

 

Yes, this is correct. 1973 was definitely the start for the regular season.

Edited March 2, 2011 by rollredroll