bradley08 Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Soddy vs. Brandon match results hwt- Seley pins in the first 6-0 106- Houser (sd) receives forfeit (Br) 12-0 113- Brewer (sd) gets pinned in 3rd 12-6 120- Peckinpaugh (sd)gets decisioned 12-9 126- Rossi Bruno (br) receives forfeit 12-15 132- Deckleman (sd) gets tf by Kevin Norstream (Br) 12-20 138- Richmond (sd) loses by dec 12-23 145- Lewis (sd) loses by dec 12-26 152- Darren Smith (sd) loses in OT 12-29 160- Alexander (sd) pinned by Clark Glass (Br) 12-35 170- Henry (sd) gets major dec 9-1 12-39 182- Reno (sd) gets pinned 12-45 195- Brett Ervin (sd) receives forfeit 18-45 220- Swanson (sd) receives forfeit 24-45 Final- 24-45 Brandon Breakdown... - Brandon wrestled without, from what I heard, stud of a 106 pounder and no one to take his place. - Soddy wrestled without state champion Jacob Stevens at 113, and bumped a 103 up to fill in for him. - In order to pick up the slack from Stevens absence, Soddy forfeited to Fargo champion Rossi Bruno at 126, bumping everyone up from 126 to 152. The bump made the score look much worse than it could have been if Lewis and Smith had wrestled their weights, but it was a smart move by henry, as he was going for the win and not a close loss. - I'm pretty certain Brandon only forfeited at 195 and 220 to save their kids for collins hill... or to make the score look worse than it already was. Regardless, I think it's safe to say Ervin and Swanson would have gotten pins. If anyone else saw Brandon's 195 and 220 pounders I'm sure they would agree. Conclusion... Although it's a pretty bad score, Soddy had a legitimate shot at beating Brandon (or at least making it a close score). Stevens in the line-up is a possible 9 point swing in itself, not bumping Lewis and Smith is a 12 point swing (Very likely bonus points there as well), and 195 and 220 is 12 points for Soddy either way. So with a little math and ALOT of imagination... the score might as well have been 33-34, with Brandon still coming out on top. But hey, I'm just throwing this stuff out there, a guy can dream, right? Avoiding Rossi probably didnt help in hindsight. Norstrem at 132 is a 2 or 3 time super 32 placer and fargo greco national champion. Would have had a better shot at beating Rossi and not given up the size difference to a kid who is just as good. Then your next guys would have had a shot instead of being undersized against top kids. Hey, I like the gamble and go for it attitude though. Looks like there were some close matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Soddy vs. Brandon match results hwt- Seley pins in the first 6-0 106- Houser (sd) receives forfeit (Br) 12-0 113- Brewer (sd) gets pinned in 3rd 12-6 120- Peckinpaugh (sd)gets decisioned 12-9 126- Rossi Bruno (br) receives forfeit 12-15 132- Deckleman (sd) gets tf by Kevin Norstream (Br) 12-20 138- Richmond (sd) loses by dec 12-23 145- Lewis (sd) loses by dec 12-26 152- Darren Smith (sd) loses in OT 12-29 160- Alexander (sd) pinned by Clark Glass (Br) 12-35 170- Henry (sd) gets major dec 9-1 12-39 182- Reno (sd) gets pinned 12-45 195- Brett Ervin (sd) receives forfeit 18-45 220- Swanson (sd) receives forfeit 24-45 Final- 24-45 Brandon Breakdown... - Brandon wrestled without, from what I heard, stud of a 106 pounder and no one to take his place. - Soddy wrestled without state champion Jacob Stevens at 113, and bumped a 103 up to fill in for him. - In order to pick up the slack from Stevens absence, Soddy forfeited to Fargo champion Rossi Bruno at 126, bumping everyone up from 126 to 152. The bump made the score look much worse than it could have been if Lewis and Smith had wrestled their weights, but it was a smart move by henry, as he was going for the win and not a close loss. - I'm pretty certain Brandon only forfeited at 195 and 220 to save their kids for collins hill... or to make the score look worse than it already was. Regardless, I think it's safe to say Ervin and Swanson would have gotten pins. If anyone else saw Brandon's 195 and 220 pounders I'm sure they would agree. Conclusion... Although it's a pretty bad score, Soddy had a legitimate shot at beating Brandon (or at least making it a close score). Stevens in the line-up is a possible 9 point swing in itself, not bumping Lewis and Smith is a 12 point swing (Very likely bonus points there as well), and 195 and 220 is 12 points for Soddy either way. So with a little math and ALOT of imagination... the score might as well have been 33-34, with Brandon still coming out on top. But hey, I'm just throwing this stuff out there, a guy can dream, right? Well, well, well.... this is very conflicting from the story I got! Now trojanman12 I dont see the legitmate chance to beat Brandon. I'm sure soddy will handle everyone rather easily in the state of TN and maybe get in the bottom of the national rankings, but Brandon is a top ten team in the county every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMC Posted December 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Here's the results borrowed from the Georgia forum......(Thanks to Fret and Coach Stephens) Below are the results from the Kyle Maynard Duals: Pool A Collins Hill 54, Manatee 21 Collins Hill, 69, Cass 6 Manatee 27, Peachtree Ridge 34 Manatee 39, Cass 36 Collins Hill 60, Peachtree Ridge 16 Cass 26, Peachtree Ridge 49 Pool B Osceolla 77, Loganville 0 Baylor 50, North Gwinnett 18 Loganville 6, Baylor 75 Osceolla 55, North Gwinnett 21 Loganville 30, North Gwinnett 54 Osceolla 34, Baylor 36 Pool C Chapel Hill 15, Gordon Lee 60 Chapel Hill 30, Grayson 44 Soddy Daisy 48, Gordon Lee 31 Grayson 20, Gordon Lee 54 Soddy Daisy 63, Grayson 4 Soddy Daisy 70, Chapel Hill 3 Pool D Brandon 58, Woodland 20 Brandon 58, Bremen 18 Brandon 45, McCallie 22 Bremen 24, McCallie 34 Woodland 38, Bremen 39 Woodland 30, McCallie 42 Other Matches: Peachtree Ridge 21, McCallie 57 Osceolla 64, Gordon Lee 12 Manatee 18, Bremen 54 North Gwinnett 58, Grayson 15 Cass 21, Woodland 54 Loganville 52, Chapel Hill 24 Cass 44, Chapel Hill 24 Woodland def Loganville (didn't get the score) Manatee 46, Grayson 33 North Gwinnett 18, Bremen 48 Peachtree Ridge 42, Gordon Lee 31 Osceolla 58, McCallie 15 3rd Place- Soddy Daisy vs. Baylor (didn't wrestle) 1st Place- Brandon 38, Collins Hill 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachknepper Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 THANK YOU RMC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMC Posted December 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Well, well, well.... this is very conflicting from the story I got! Now trojanman12 I dont see the legitmate chance to beat Brandon. I'm sure soddy will handle everyone rather easily in the state of TN and maybe get in the bottom of the national rankings, but Brandon is a top ten team in the county every year. I say he's right on. Brandon is not the team they have been in the past....yet. I was holding the weigh in sheets for most of the day and their roster is full of 9th and 10th grader wrestlers. Again....I'm going from memory, but I think earlier this year they only beat Camden County, GA by 3....and that was with a full lineup. That's why Camden is ranked in AWN. CH fell out of some rankings because of their 6th place finish at The Cougar Invitational, but in their defense they didn't have Ferguson and Brandtmueller injury defaulted during his first match. Ferguson finished 2nd in that same tournament last year. Anyway....after saying all that..I wouldn't be surprised if Soddy-Daisy wins their tournament.....even with Collins Hill there this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupCake Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Avoiding Rossi probably didnt help in hindsight. Norstrem at 132 is a 2 or 3 time super 32 placer and fargo greco national champion. Would have had a better shot at beating Rossi and not given up the size difference to a kid who is just as good. Then your next guys would have had a shot instead of being undersized against top kids. Hey, I like the gamble and go for it attitude though. Looks like there were some close matches. The bump was a great move by Coach Henry and his coaching staff/ video crew man . Brandon has a nationally ranked top 10 kid at 126 and 132 against two SD 10th graders that haven't even placed in the state,,,given that data its safe to say Brandon gets 5 or 6 at 126 and 138 no matter what Coach Henry does,,,,said all that to say this,,,by bumping the line-up at 126,,,it allows SD to match up their battle proven studs against a couple of Brandon's Freshman,,,the bump was the best shot at getting the match ups we needed to have a shot at making it interesting. (fyi,,,the only 126 in that building that had a real shot at beating Rossi was in a red singlet and the two teams didn't meet) Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas and or Happy Holidays to all,,,especially those with boots on the ground in harms way! CC,,,sends... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyposts Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Camden lost to Brandon 38-24, the same score as the Brandon/CH dual. Camden is ranked because of their 2nd place finishes at the Cougar and Graves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestler4444 Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 (fyi,,,the only 126 in that building that had a real shot at beating Rossi was in a red singlet and the two teams didn't meet) Oh i would have loved to have seen a match up like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMC Posted December 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Oh i would have loved to have seen a match up like that. We all wanted to see it! The skinnyposts for keeping me straight on the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbg Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 We all wanted to see it! The skinnyposts for keeping me straight on the score. Dual match tournaments are great because even the below average wrestlers get four or five matches. However, if you really want to see who the best wrestler is you must go to an individual tournament. With Baylor going to the Clash you would hope that Mr. Watson get's pushed, but if Baylor does not go deep in the tournament that may not happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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