SportsTNFan Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Father Ryan won the Moeller Super 8 Duals on Saturday. First Round:Father Ryan 54 Westerville North, OH 21Quarterfinals:Father Ryan 36 St. Xavier, KY 34Semifinals:Father Ryan 40 Archbishop Moeller, OH 32Finals:Father Ryan 33 Elyria, OH 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierdad Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Impressive. Beat one of the better teams in Kentucky as well as 2 of the better teams in Ohio. Is Father Ryan that good? I read earlier how they beat Wilson Central pretty good. Are they the top team in Tennessee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingGod Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I would think that honor still belongs to Cleveland. Anybody know if Ryan will be at the Cleveland Duals this year? If so that dual alone will be worth the price of admission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernwrestler Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I would think that honor still belongs to Cleveland. Anybody know if Ryan will be at the Cleveland Duals this year? If so that dual alone will be worth the price of admission. Your posts truly amaze me more and more with every post WrestlingGod. If you see the Ooltewah Invitational results Wilson Central clearly topped Cleveland by over 30 points. Also if you visit the rankings via www.pin-tn.com they clearly have Bradley as number 1 over Wilson Central who is number 2 THEN following them is Cleveland at number 3. So if Father Ryan beat Wilson Central who won a tournament by over 30 points over Cleveland how does it make sense that Cleveland is better than Father Ryan? Not a huge Father Ryan or Wilson Central fan, I just find enjoyment at the stupidity in your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBR Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Cleveland is certainly down this year. The honor will belong to the winner of Baylor vs FR this year. Two very dominant teams. Baylor will wrestle Bradley tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBR Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Your posts truly amaze me more and more with every post WrestlingGod. If you see the Ooltewah Invitational results Wilson Central clearly topped Cleveland by over 30 points. Also if you visit the rankings via www.pin-tn.com they clearly have Bradley as number 1 over Wilson Central who is number 2 THEN following them is Cleveland at number 3. So if Father Ryan beat Wilson Central who won a tournament by over 30 points over Cleveland how does it make sense that Cleveland is better than Father Ryan? Not a huge Father Ryan or Wilson Central fan, I just find enjoyment at the stupidity in your posts. I agree, I think Wrestling"God" just posts whatever he thinks at the moment without quality insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingGod Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Your posts truly amaze me more and more with every post WrestlingGod. If you see the Ooltewah Invitational results Wilson Central clearly topped Cleveland by over 30 points. Also if you visit the rankings via www.pin-tn.com they clearly have Bradley as number 1 over Wilson Central who is number 2 THEN following them is Cleveland at number 3. So if Father Ryan beat Wilson Central who won a tournament by over 30 points over Cleveland how does it make sense that Cleveland is better than Father Ryan? Not a huge Father Ryan or Wilson Central fan, I just find enjoyment at the stupidity in your posts. Ok so if A beats B and B beats C that automatically means A is better than C? Thats not quite how that works. Cleveland is the back to back defending state champs, as Ric Flair said, "To be the man you gotta beat the man" Cleveland has the honors as the best team in the state until Febuary when, or if, another team wins it then they will have it. Until then, as i said before, Cleveland is still the best team in the state. Hamm is the godfather of my child so we're close, but rankings are just one mans opinion, the only fact in all of this is that the blue raiders have the ONLY division 1 claim to the best team in the state until Feb or someone beats them. Finishing on top of them in a TRADITIONAL tournament does not give you that distinction of best DUAL team. Edited December 9, 2014 by WrestlingGod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsTNFan Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I would think that honor still belongs to Cleveland. Anybody know if Ryan will be at the Cleveland Duals this year? If so that dual alone will be worth the price of admission. Father Ryan will wrestle Cleveland on Friday 12/12 at 7:00 PM and in the Cleveland Duals on Saturday 12/13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernwrestler Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Ok so if A beats B and B beats C that automatically means A is better than C? Thats not quite how that works. Cleveland is the back to back defending state champs, as Ric Flair said, "To be the man you gotta beat the man" Cleveland has the honors as the best team in the state until Febuary when, or if, another team wins it then they will have it. Until then, as i said before, Cleveland is still the best team in the state. Hamm is the godfather of my child so we're close, but rankings are just one mans opinion, the only fact in all of this is that the blue raiders have the ONLY division 1 claim to the best team in the state until Feb or someone beats them. Finishing on top of them in a TRADITIONAL tournament does not give you that distinction of best DUAL team. Listen Thad, what you are theoretically saying is if there was a team of 14 seniors that won dual state and traditional then that next year even though all 14 seniors graduated that team would still be considered best in the state even though they have 0 returning starters? When Father Ryan wins by 20+ points over a team that beat Cleveland by 30+ even in a traditional tournament style you still are telling me that Cleveland would beat Father Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingGod Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Listen Thad, what you are theoretically saying is if there was a team of 14 seniors that won dual state and traditional then that next year even though all 14 seniors graduated that team would still be considered best in the state even though they have 0 returning starters? When Father Ryan wins by 20+ points over a team that beat Cleveland by 30+ even in a traditional tournament style you still are telling me that Cleveland would beat Father Ryan. First off, you spelled my name wrong. Next, Cleveland did not have 14 seniors last year so your arguement is null and void. Third, even hypothetically we'll say your fairy tale land scenerio has occured. Yes, a win over a team in a traditional style tournament does not make you the better dual team regardless of any scenerio. Thats just common sense, and it still doesnt make A better than C. And I never said they WOULDNT beat them, I said until that day comes, Cleveland still gets my vote as the best D1 team in the state. Edited December 9, 2014 by WrestlingGod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierdad Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 First off, you spelled my name wrong. Next, Cleveland did not have 14 seniors last year so your arguement is null and void. Third, even hypothetically we'll say your fairy tale land scenerio has occured. Yes, a win over a team in a traditional style tournament does not make you the better dual team regardless of any scenerio. Thats just common sense, and it still doesnt make A better than C. And I never said they WOULDNT beat them, I said until that day comes, Cleveland still gets my vote as the best D1 team in the state. You did not say DI in the beginning. My question was "Is Father Ryan the best in the state". You said no. That is when the questions about your response started. It is clear you think Cleveland is the best in the state period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierdad Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Cleveland is certainly down this year. The honor will belong to the winner of Baylor vs FR this year. Two very dominant teams. Baylor will wrestle Bradley tonight. This should be a great match tonight. Good luck to both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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