Whitehaven vs Lausanne, Friday, Wk 4, at Rhodes College

[kwc]

On 9/11/2018 at 1:57 PM, BlackHavenSenator said:

The lack of creativity, consistency offensively along with no solid qb play is the reason we lost this game. If the QB can't throw a drag, slant, stop, or curl (I say that because I don't recall seeing these throws called) please find another QB OR run more read option. Stop asking dude to throw deep outs and deep balls like he's Jeff George. 

I strongly disagree with the highlighted. VJ has been stellar. He's thrown 6 TDs to 2 INTs to date.  According to Shelby Metro Sports website on the 'Stats before the September 6-8 Games' he has performed solidly. Below are how his stats rate amoungst all of Shelby County. His percentage of completions could be higher, but I've seen his WRs drop passes that hit them in their hands. That isn't on the QB. Those were catchable balls ... not bullets thrown at point blank range or anything like that. I have seen stops and intermediate out patterns. No curls or slants. I personally don't think another QB is needed. VJ is doing well and connecting on the pass plays he needs to connect on. The stats below speak for themselves. We will have to agree to disagree, but, I am going to 'Go to Bat' for the QB.

 

Most passing touchdowns
Name	School	#
Jaden Johnson	Kirby	7
Rube Scott Rhea	Fayette Academy	7
Spencer Smith	St George's	7
Austin Wiley	Cordova	7
Rhodes Carson	Arlington	6
Vincent Guy	Whitehaven	6
Sellers Shy	MUS	6
Ethan Burns	Houston	5
Sky Forrest	Lausanne	5
Nick Johnson	Brighton	5
John Jones	Wooddale	5
Preston Raines	Bartlett	4
Mitch Austin	Collierville	3
Jesse Komoroski	St Benedict	3
Brock Lomax	Covington	3
Owens McConnell	West Memphis	3
Ethan Payne	Germantown	3
Passing
Name	School	COM	ATT	YDS	PCT	TD/INT
Spencer Smith	St. George's	43	74	601	58	7/1
Ethan Payne	Germantown	44	68	571	65	3/3
Preston Raines	Bartlett	31	58	552	53	4/6
Mitch Austin	Collierville	50	87	535	57	3/2
Rhodes Carson	Arlington	24	52	496	46	6/0
Austin Wiley	Cordova	39	77	488	51	7/3
Nick Johnson	Brighton	34	62	438	55	5/3
Vincent Guy	Whitehaven	31	57	421	54	6/2
Rube Scott Rhea	Fayette Academy	25	44	420	57	7/1
Sky Forrest	Lausanne	14	19	329	74	5/0
Brock Lomax	Covington	16	26	308	61	3/1
Sellers Shy	MUS	20	39	301	51	6/0
Derick Tucker	Manassas	17	53	283	32	1/0
Cole Catledge	Olive Branch	25	50	273	50	2/3
Jesse Komoroski	St Benedict	15	31	261	48	3/3
Daedrick Cail	Marion	20	30	253	67	2/2
Jordan Martin	Freedom Prep	11	20	249	55	1/3
Drew Lyons	White Station	14	28	248	50	2/0

Edited September 13, 2018 by kwc

[Reneg8d1]

22 minutes ago, kwc said:

I strongly disagree with the highlighted. VJ has been stellar. He's thrown 6 TDs to 2 INTs to date.  According to Shelby Metro Sports website on the 'Stats before the September 6-8 Games' he has performed solidly. Below are how his stats rate amoungst all of Shelby County. His percentage of completions could be higher, but I've seen his WRs drop passes that hit them in their hands. That isn't on the QB. Those were catchable balls ... not bullets thrown at point blank range or anything like that. I have seen stops and intermediate out patterns. No curls or slants. I personally don't think another QB is needed. VJ is doing well and connecting on the pass plays he needs to connect on. The stats below speak for themselves. We will have to agree to disagree, but, I am going to 'Go to Bat' for the QB.

 

Most passing touchdowns
Name	School	#
Jaden Johnson	Kirby	7
Rube Scott Rhea	Fayette Academy	7
Spencer Smith	St George's	7
Austin Wiley	Cordova	7
Rhodes Carson	Arlington	6
Vincent Guy	Whitehaven	6
Sellers Shy	MUS	6
Ethan Burns	Houston	5
Sky Forrest	Lausanne	5
Nick Johnson	Brighton	5
John Jones	Wooddale	5
Preston Raines	Bartlett	4
Mitch Austin	Collierville	3
Jesse Komoroski	St Benedict	3
Brock Lomax	Covington	3
Owens McConnell	West Memphis	3
Ethan Payne	Germantown	3
Passing
Name	School	COM	ATT	YDS	PCT	TD/INT
Spencer Smith	St. George's	43	74	601	58	7/1
Ethan Payne	Germantown	44	68	571	65	3/3
Preston Raines	Bartlett	31	58	552	53	4/6
Mitch Austin	Collierville	50	87	535	57	3/2
Rhodes Carson	Arlington	24	52	496	46	6/0
Austin Wiley	Cordova	39	77	488	51	7/3
Nick Johnson	Brighton	34	62	438	55	5/3
Vincent Guy	Whitehaven	31	57	421	54	6/2
Rube Scott Rhea	Fayette Academy	25	44	420	57	7/1
Sky Forrest	Lausanne	14	19	329	74	5/0
Brock Lomax	Covington	16	26	308	61	3/1
Sellers Shy	MUS	20	39	301	51	6/0
Derick Tucker	Manassas	17	53	283	32	1/0
Cole Catledge	Olive Branch	25	50	273	50	2/3
Jesse Komoroski	St Benedict	15	31	261	48	3/3
Daedrick Cail	Marion	20	30	253	67	2/2
Jordan Martin	Freedom Prep	11	20	249	55	1/3
Drew Lyons	White Station	14	28	248	50	2/0

Kwc I agree with everything you have stated and posted, however, the lack of creativity on offense, in my opinion, is indeed open for debate.  The offense is productive against most teams merely due to the level of talent on the team, but as you get into the playoffs, schemes are vital from round to round.  You can’t just win on talent alone.  Teams like Maryville proves this point.  The lack of creativity is what got them beat in the playoffs against Cane Ridge.  Although Cane Ridge has the same issue. 

[kwc]

16 minutes ago, Reneg8d1 said:

Kwc I agree with everything you have stated and posted, however, the lack of creativity on offense, in my opinion, is indeed open for debate.  The offense is productive against most teams merely due to the level of talent on the team, but as you get into the playoffs, schemes are vital from round to round.  You can’t just win on talent alone.  Teams like Maryville proves this point.  The lack of creativity is what got them beat in the playoffs against Cane Ridge.  Although Cane Ridge has the same issue. 

Reneg8d1:

I only disagreed with BHS's assessment of the QB's consistency. He stated that the QB's play wasn't "solid". I went to bat for the QB's play in all of this.

I am NOT debating "offensive creativity". 

[Reneg8d1]

1 hour ago, kwc said:

Reneg8d1:

I only disagreed with BHS's assessment of the QB's consistency. He stated that the QB's play wasn't "solid". I went to bat for the QB's play in all of this.

I am NOT debating "offensive creativity". 

Agreed kwc. Moot point anyway at this stage of the season as they are what they are.  

[BTOTW1617]

I know its a little late but is no one going to discuss how terrible the officiating was?! That kid was AT LEAST 3 yards out of bounds and they called it complete!!!

[kwc]

3 minutes ago, BTOTW1617 said:

I know its a little late but is no one going to discuss how terrible the officiating was?! That kid was AT LEAST 3 yards out of bounds and they called it complete!!!

I've learned over the years that officiating is difficult and a lot of times they just get stuff wrong. I use to think that the officials had something against Whitehaven. If you ask fans of every school, you will get the same answer. All officials hate every school. Just ask the fans who go to the games.

Yeah, they blew that call. It's not the first, won't be the last. It happens. I've griped and complained in the past. But I've come to realize ... those guys actually do the best they can when they are out there. Some have attitudes with certain coaches and whatnot ... but overall, they try their best to call a fair game. They aren't perfect, and they miss calls from time to time. It's part of the game. I don't sweat it anymore. For every egregious call that goes against my team, there will be one for my team. I don't get worked up about officiating anymore like I use to.