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cobrakid8

CK's Top 9 wrestling poll

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Here are my top 9 for state of TN wrestling teams.

Baylor-1st tier

Christian Brothers-1st tier

Cleveland-1st tier

Father Ryan- 2nd

McCallie- 2nd

Wilson Central - 3rd

Blackman   jumbled mess, lost to wilson central but finished higher at Black Horse compared to Arlington since OW likes to use individual tourneys 

Arlington- beaten badly by McCallie, Christian Brothers and Baylor, as well as lost to Father Ryan. beat Bradley

Bradley- lost to Cleveland, Arlington and McCallie but beat Summit 64-9

 

 

 

Honorable mentions:  A Jumbled mess of nothingness.

 

The reason these are so hard: Blackman- beat Beech Centennial and Summit, lost to WC

Centennial: Beat Summit and Oakland, but later lost to Oakland and Blackman

Summit: lost to McCallie, Bradley, Oakland, Blackman and Centennial. Beat Whitwell by same margin as Soddy.

Rossview-  lost to MBA and Clarksville and also Beech and Wilson Central, did beat Oakland though

Heritage beat Science Hill but lost to Notre Dame

Brentwood- beat MBA who Rossview lost too, but lost to Summit.

Beech- lost to blackman, oakland and Riverdale

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, cobrakid8 said:

Here are my top 10 for state of TN wrestling teams.

Baylor-1st tier

Christian Brothers-1st tier

Cleveland-1st tier

Father Ryan- 2nd

McCallie- 2nd

Wilson Central - 3rd

Blackman   jumbled mess, lost to wilson central but finished higher at Black Horse compared to Arlington since OW likes to use individual tourneys 

Arlington- beaten badly by McCallie, Christian Brothers and Baylor, as well as lost to Father Ryan. beat Bradley

Bradley- lost to Cleveland, Arlington and McCallie but beat Summit 64-9

 

Honorable mentions:  A Jumbled mess of nothingness.

 

The reason these are so hard: Blackman- beat Beech Centennial and Summit, lost to WC

Centennial: Beat Summit and Oakland, but later lost to Oakland and Blackman

Summit: lost to McCallie, Bradley, Oakland, Blackman and Centennial. Beat Whitwell by same margin as Soddy.

Rossview-  lost to MBA and Clarksville and also Beech and Wilson Central, did beat Oakland though

Heritage beat Science Hill but lost to Notre Dame

Brentwood- beat MBA who Rossview lost too, but lost to Summit.

Beech- lost to blackman, oakland and Riverdale

 

Pretty much sums it up lol

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as a matter of fact everything after 9 is a mess, so I am taking Gibbs off

and making it a top 9

Even Gibbs doesnt deserve 10th spot because they got beat by Jeff County who lost to Page and Signal Mnt.   

 

Page got beat by Brentwood 54-24 and 57-24

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Heritage beat a Science Hill JV team. Our varsity was wrestling in SC that weekend. We put together a second string team to compete in the Seymour Duals since it was a close opportunity to get our second string guys some varsity competition. 

However, Maryville legitimately beat the best team we could put on the mat at Farrace Duals. It was without 5 of our current starters, but because of injuries/sickness/eligibility it was our varsity lineup and our team did not perform well enough to overcome. They split matches with Morristown West that same week whom we beat 60-15 on Tuesday with a much closer to full strength lineup.

We are finally very close to full strength and I think we should be 100% next week going into the important stuff. May be without 1 or 2 this weekend but we wrestle Bradley tomorrow in what we hope will be a competitive dual match to give us an idea of where we stack up this season.

We have a lot of unproven kids that have to step up and scrap to get us back to the top 4 at the end of this month. 

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This banter, although sometimes appearing as whining, is important. Although it seems as the coaches are being lazy (and some may be). There are probably results that were missed throughout Track searches. When detailed results are laid out such as what Cobra posted it should help the coaches and at that point there should be no excuse to adjust accordingly. 

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2 minutes ago, KingGreene said:

This banter, although sometimes appearing as whining, is important. Although it seems as the coaches are being lazy (and some may be). There are probably results that were missed throughout Track searches. When detailed results are laid out such as what Cobra posted it should help the coaches and at that point there should be no excuse to adjust accordingly. 

Polls aren't really important at all, and the banter is whining because we have people that don't put any time to put one up themselves(because that information took me some time to do, I worked on it a while) and yet expect coaches who spend countless hours in their wrestling rooms with their wrestlers and going over the numbers for money and weights for their wrestlers and everything else and expect them to vote accurately on a statewide poll. Really track isn't detailed enough or easy enough to know the differences between teams unless you know who the lineup should be EXAMPLE you guys! Just like Bradley sending a JV team to Hixson's duals and they won it(but I wouldn't have known if I didn't have a dad there at the tourney), while Cleveland sent a JV squad out to a varsity duals tournament and got beat, but yet someone that hasn't a clue or wasn't there will be like, BUT Cleveland got beat by so and so when a JV squad posing as varsity went to the tournament.  There are way to many teams that don't wrestle anyone of any competitive nature and are 25-0 and think they should be ranked but once they step into state duals get their butts kicked. After that you have the ones that split through the season and you have people that think one dual score can be put towards another team that hasn't even wrestled each other. 

 

I wished they didn't even put out a team poll or rankings of any kind. Team strength has way to many factors such as being able to move kids up and down to take advantages of matchup's, having good depth enough to maybe move a JV kid into the lineup to move other studs around to take out other teams studs and none of it matters until the end to begin with. Kids can wait so late now to drop down to another weight class before state's begin that lineups aren't even close to set yet.  I can say right now that again it is pretty much Cleveland in AAA with nobody else really close and fighting for second and D2 is Christian Brothers and Baylor with everyone else chasing after them. And as Coach Henry used to say to us, "second place was like kissing your sister." Sucks we didnt win more state titles, but thats what happens when you have the Bradley's and Cleveland's to worry about.

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Sort of related to your poll cobrakid8.....

Being from TN, but living in GA for a long time, I'd like to see a set of matches like Parkview (GA) and Bradley did back in the day.  They were the top teams from each state and wrestled before a UTC home match.......and Bradley won big. 

Here would be my pairing......

Woodland (GA) - Baylor

North Hall (GA) - Christian Brothers

Camden (GA) - Cleveland

Buford (GA) - Father Ryan

*tried to pair small schools together

Wonder if anyone would pay to see that?

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