taketop

112-Stevens beat Oliver. majored him, i think

So do we!!! You are missed

Not sure about the rest but Bradley does have an open door policy during the off season during open mat time and the club is open to anyone.

isn't that what the state duals and traditional state do? freestyle state?

How can you expect kids, their parents, and coaches (probably unpaid) to drive that far when they can compete closer to home and save a ton of money? It sends the message that if you can get the same benefit, stay closer to home, and spend less money then even better. The sky is falling!!! Duck

Logan Biddy (Bradley) UTC

HOw can you fault a coach for doing what is in his own best interest? Get real. Would you turn down a better job if someone offered it to you? He isn't Fuast. HE is a wrestling coach who got a better job offer and I'm sure he is refering to his wife when he says family. Cael Sanderson has done more for the sport of wrestling than anyone since Dan Gable, so if he get an opportunity to better his situation, who are you or I to question his motives? GIve the guy a break. Look at it this way....he created one more I State fan.

The ref in question has a reputation of making the match about him. He should be ashamed of himself. Don't think i could have slept last night if I were him. As for the Cleveland fan's and coaches.... they all handled it well.

Salt, Pepper, and butter gets my vote

I have trouble understanding why the TSSAA always says they haven't heard a solution to every problem that is brought before them. Isn't this their job? These guys make a GOOD living off of what the schools and atheletes produce. What do they do? If they want the coaches to solve all the problems then they should cut the TSSAA staff in half and reduce all saleries to the average of what the coaches are paid.

Deserve? You only deserve what you earn. The system is not about getting the best teams to the state duals and it is getting worse with the new regions.

You couldn't have! They don't recruit or give money. You and all the other people who have told me of visits, phone calls, letters, job offers, and money are mistaken. They don't recruit. There is no evidence. This is nothing but "basically made wild unsubstantiated accusations without the ability to back up any with facts". Right countrypk? Tell him how wrong he is. I have been rehabilitated. I got my mind right Boss!! Shakin it up over here Boss!!!!

ok. I give. You win. The private schools don't give money to kids to come to their schools and participate in athletics. They never have and never will. The two divisions you see at the state tournaments are not evern really there. It is just the imagination of the public schools. I concede all beliefs and negative attitudes.

Don't know any Biffs, Bubba. As many on the DI side regularly do, your boy Taketop accuses Baylor of cheating without any proof. He is obviously confused about the difference between scholarships and financial aid. That subject is explained and debated Ad nauseam on the Private/Public string. If he really wants an explanation, I'm sure the TSSAA website has it but he probably wouldn't want to be confused with facts. He goes on to accuse Baylor of recruiting without any proof because he has none and will never be able to produce any. Among the many reasons parents want their sons to go to Baylor is because of the opportunity to get a superior education and and to wrestle for a great high school coaching staff. I assume that's why a lot of parents send their boys to Bradley and in cases have moved to Bradley in order to take advantage of Coach Logsden's talents. In both cases, if you want to call that recruiting, go ahead. I'm resolved to the fact that Coach Logsden isn't going to allow his team to wrestle Baylor or McCallie. It's his decision. Like most high school wrestling fans on this board I would love to see Bradley wrestle them. It would be good for the sport to have two quality teams in close proximity wrestle in front of thousands of fans. Coach Logsden defenders (and he doesn't need any) in many cases defend his position by insulting and accusing Baylor and McCallie of TSSAA rule violations. And to the subject at hand. Baylor has the better team this year and the polls agree with me. There's only one way to prove differently and Coach Logsden is going to make sure that doesn't happen. It's his perogative. I understand why people want their kids in private school. I understand why private schools give kids money (call it what you want) to come to school. I also know people who were recruited and offered scholarships. some took it and some didn't. I am not offering proof that could be used in a court of law. That has already been done and the private schools lost. look that up. It is what it is. I am not in the least bit confused. And lastley, I have read what the tssaa handbook says. have you? No? Being the humanitarian that i am, I have included it for your reading pleasure. Not sure of what your point was. Have a nice day. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> Tuition and Financial Aid Section 16. If tuition is charged, it must be paid by parent, bona fide guardian or other family member. If a parent, guardian or other family member secures a loan for payment of tuition, it must remain an obligation of the parents, guardian or other family member to repay the principle and interest in full with no exceptions. Financial aid will be allowed under the following conditions: 1. Children of full-time faculty members may be given financial aid, but such students, if transfers, shall be ineligible for 12 months in any sport in which they have an athletic record for the previous or current year. 2. Financial aid may be awarded on the basis of need, but proof of such need must be filed in the TSSAA office on forms approved by the Executive Director. In order to determine the basis for need, all schools awarding financial aid shall use the School and Student Scholastic Service for Financial Aid of Princeton, New Jersey. A committee consisting of School Heads from Division II schools and one ex-officio, non-voting member from the Board of Control will meet and make recommendations to the Board of Control on each student submitted. In addition, this committee will collect information from schools regarding financial aid statistics, grant procedures, and the overall financial aid program within the school. The Board of Control will then rule on all cases at the August meeting. The Board of Control shall have authority to reject the basis for need for students when in its opinion, or the opinion of the school committee, the amount of need stated by School and Student Service for Financial Aid of Princeton, New Jersey, cannot be justified. Page 14 September 24, 2008 2008-09 TSSAA Handbook 3. Any loan program, grant program, educational foundation or similar program that is established and/or administered, in whole or in part, by a school or official of a school is considered financial aid. Schools shall remove any student from athletic eligibility whose accounts with the school are 60 days overdue. All records pertaining to financial aid or tuition assistance shall be open to TSSAA upon its request. Each school shall be responsible for securing necessary authorization to allow TSSAA to review or audit such records. Recruiting Rule Section 17. The use of undue influence on a student (with or without an athletic record), the parents or guardians of a student by any person connected, or not connected, with the school to secure or to retain a student for athletic purposes shall be a violation of the recruiting rule.

maybe you are ignorant. Do you know what i am talking about?

Thanks.

Well we should probably recant the Declaration. I don't recall seeing Thomas Jefferson documenting his sources. Lighten up

Kinda picky aren't we? This wasn't turned as his disertation. Anyone ever read the Declaration of Independence? The majority of it comes straight from John Locke. Good post

Is Region 6 wrestling their daul on Saturday? I thought all teams were supposed to be done before then? When will the second place team wrestle? Didn't RC get mad because some regions were waiting too late to finish and told everyone to be done by Saturday? Someone please set me straight on this.

Are you saying Baylor doesn't give scholarships? When they come to to the school is irrelavent. Just because they recruit the kids in middle school means it didn't happen? It just means they scouted the tallent early. They don't deny giving financial aid. They were allowed a specific number of scholarships by the tssaa before the split. You think they stopped because the restrictions are gone? Don't get me wrong, if I were them I would do the same thing but woudn't pretend it wasn't happening. If tether ball isn't the answer maybe we could have a game of kick ball to settle this.

If you don't like the way bcb ranks kids, do your own rankings or don't look at them. All ranking are inheritanly biased by opions.

Framed pictures? No. This agency does not "feel". There is no room for such emotions on this line of work. The brutality and horrific nature of these abuses require all agents to remain detached and emotionless or risk severe mental damage (TCD-Traumatic Chair Disorder). This agency will not be distracted from it's mission and that is to protect innocent chairs all across the world. The vagueness of this organization is understandable. It is VERY complex. The nature of this problem demands we remain complicated and aloof. A complex problem demands a complex solution. However, we will not rest until all domestic furniture violence is gone!!! VIVA LA MEUBLE!!!!

WV only threw ONE chair. The count on domestic furniture violence in this case is up to 4 known cases. WV has been out done. The Agency feels kicking is a hate crime while throwing is a crime of passion.

[ Look in the stands and pick out the Biggest, Meanest man or women and go get you some!!!! Your welcome Coach!!!! /flower.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":flower:" border="0" alt="flower.gif" /> Anyone else have a story they would like to share? There was some running in the stands reported but that is not the focus of this agency. We are working to start a bleacher division but the funds are unavailable at this time. We send our condolences to the family of the sink.