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I'm don't think that just because the coaches vote to change the duals format that it will or should happen. What if the coaches voted to go to 64 teams? What if they voted to have the finals in Nashville in the GEC? Somewhat extreme examples, granted, but the TSSAA has to have the final say and money has to be a concern. As a DII fan I have no problem with DI expanding to 16 teams. I find a lot of merit in it, actually. And, amazingly, I have no problem with DI having a small school division in the duals (not individuals). If I coached a small school DI high school team I wouldn't want to be a part of it but if they think it will help with popularity and participation numbers, go for it. Just don't bring that way of thinking to DII. One thing Coach Carter did say to me is that wrestling is the one sport that they would combine DI and DII together for the individual championships if the coaches voted and agreed. Not sure that could happen given the climate in DI, but it sure would be nice.

I'll give it a shot walkenvol: 103-Schoettle by for 6-0 112- Dunning by fall 12-0 119- Young by fall 12-6 125- Hiller major 16-6 130- Clevealnd by major 16-10 135- Mondelli by dec 19-10 140- Myers by dec 22-10 145- Scott by fall 22-16 152- Smith by dec 22-19 160- Manley by fall 22-25 171- Stark by fall 28-25 189- Adams by dec 31-25 215- Lomas by dec 34-25 275- Green by fall 34-31 I'm sure there will be some bumping around, but I believe Ryan matches up better with McCallie than Baylor. I can easily see an all Chat finals. Your predictions?

I'm not sure addictedtosports...what are you paying here?

"Another aspect to consider: Oak Hill will probably be hurt by the addition of Ensworth High School as well. I think Oak Hill might even be more damaged if MBA decided to start in the 5th grade. Ditto St. Pauls, Overbrook, and maybe Harding. I wonder how Ensworth will affect Father Ryan, if at all? The educational landscape is quickly changing but overall I would agree that more choices can't be a bad thing.

I agree cbg. You know it's all about match-ups and I think Ryan matches up better with McCallie than Baylor. Your take on the key matches?

"...without asking the dogs what they think." Hey, I've asked the dogs. Never had one say they are for the split or more classes or complain about unfair competition. You must deal with different dogs. I think I'd sort of be embarrassed if a wrestler said to me that it was unfair for him to have to wrestle another guy because the other guy went to a bigger school. I was part of a middle school conference that was divided into A and AA based on size. My team was always, and will always be, the smallest school. My kids used to hate placing first in A when they knew they could win the whole thing. Thankfully, they have done away with that crap and we are all together.

BotW, I just looked at that. This is what I think could happen. 103-Doster (Bay) over Schoettle by fall 6-0 112-Manson (Bay) over Dunning by dec. 9-0 119-Geismer (Bay) over DeMille by fall 15-0 125-Hiller (FR) over Carson by fall 15-6 130-Oddo (FR) over Murray by Dec 15-9 135-Manson (Bay) over Mondelli by dec. 18-9 140-Leen (Bay) over Myers by fall. 24-9 145-Doster (Bay) over Morales by m. dec. 28-9 152-Moore (Bay) over Clarke by dec. 31-9 160-Mayo (FR) over Spitalny by dec. 31-12 171-Stark (FR) over Vaughn by fall 31-18 189-Walker (Bay) over Adams by dec. 34-18 215-Lomas (FR) over Holt by fall 34-34 275-Hufstetler (Bay) over Lawrence by fall 40-24 To turn it around, Ryan needs wins by Dunning, Oddo major, Mondelli, and Adams. 31-34 Ryan, but that's asking a lot. Don't know if they can pull it off. Myers and Mayo didn't impress vs MBA either. Should be a heck of a match and worth the drive, even for you Stovepipe.

Of course.

Stove, you really think Ryan can get by Baylor???

Yeah hespinned, I was there and it was a mad house-in a good way. Packed house and everyone on their feet and loud. I'll tell you what I saw. I was standing close to the edge of the mat during the match. As time was running out they were right in front of me. My view of the wrestlers was partially blocked by a bunch of NCW kids so I looked at the clock. I saw it hit 0.0 and looked down and saw Tim signal 2. They continued wrestling for maybe 5 seconds more before he noticed time had run out. Now, did he get 2 before time ran out and the signal was given just on or after, I don't know. And I can't comment on if he even got the reversal (in my mind) because I couldn't see 'em completely. Did Hiller establish control? Obviously the Ref thought he did. Who was right or wrong is immaterial now as what's done is done and there probably is no answer to that question. I think everyone would agree that an assistant ref needs to be utilized when MBA and Ryan get together. The crowd, of course, was evenly split between estatic and furious, but there was no name calling. Most I heard later were just walking around discussing the call. For what it's worth, no one I talked to thought Hiller got the reversal for sure. And that's on the Ryan side. But I've never figured out how you can watch the clock and the wrestlers at the same time and you sure couln't hear the horn. Hiller and Simpson both handled it with class, no theatrics, shook hands and returned to their bench. Made me proud to know 'em. I will say that it was a very high level match with multiple NCAA type scrambles. Reminded me of March in that nothing was conceded and if you missed seeing it I feel sorry for you. You don't get to see matches like that often. It was an honor to witness it, really, and I hate to see them graduate but look forward to following their careers .

perfectly legal, send the other guy to the hospital move? Hey, it happens. Back in the day I had an Overton wrestler tightwaist the crap out of me. Defaulted and went strait to the hospital. Broken rib. su*k it up and get payback later, which Matt did. As to obnoxious fans, isn't it strange that only good teams are accused of having obnoxious fans. It's Baylor, Ryan, MBA, McCallie, Clarksville, Bradley, etc. You never hear "man, those CPA fans are rude". Same with the Raiders in football. As a coach I'd say give me some wild crazy fans. Pack the house and scream. It ain't tennis.

matfan and sly, Check the names on irishdad's posts. One is from irishdad and he has 63 posts. The other is from .irishdad and he has 3 posts. I think someone is having some fun with the real irishdad.

MTWA Tournament Individual Results 76 pounds: Wesley Fouch (Tullahoma) Pin Cole Kasinger (Hunter Middle) Zack Shelton (Springfield) Pin Anthony Simpson (Nashville Catholic) 83 pounds: Ryan Trelor (Hendersonville) 6-6, OT Mark Simpson (Nashville Catholic) Zaid Aboulmouna (Tullahoma) 12-3 Austin Stamps (West Wilson) 91 pounds: Matt Shanes (Hendersonville) Pin Patrick Marchetti (Nashville Catholic) John Kleinert (Hunter Middle) Pin Richard Williams (Algood) 99 pounds: Daniel Todd (Nashville Catholic) 13-5 Hayden Williams (Hunter Middle) Drake Townsend (Hendersonville) Pin Janzen Pendley (Springfield) 106 pounds: Steven Yates (Mount Juliet) Pin Brett Gregory (Tullahoma) Hope Proctor (Avery Trace) 8-6 Brandon Tucker (Hendersonville) 113 pounds: Ryan Coffee (Tullahoma) Pin Alex Lounsberry (Mount Juliet) Christian Smith (Algood) Pin Chase Wilson (Nashville Catholic) 119 pounds: Matt Lawrence (Nashville Catholic) 17-7 Travis Roderick (Springfield) Morgan Shephard (Lipscomb) Pin Dylan Smith (Tullahoma) 125 pounds: Dustin Hussey (Nashville Catholic) Pin John Kaizvenen (Hendersonville) Josh Davis (Tullahoma)14-3 Jay Hutchins (Warren County) 131 pounds: Kirk Snyder (Mount Juliet) Pin Ryne Miller (Nashville Catholic) Evan McClure (Lipscomb) 8-5 Anthony Cobb (Springfield) 141 pounds: Cole Gobbell (Nashville Catholic) 20-7 Brett Jaeckel (Hendersonville) Jesse Williamson (West Wilson) Pin Clayton Stroop (Lipscomb) 151 pounds: T.J. Greenwood (Tullahoma) Pin Raphael Dunn (Springfield) Michael Goodrum (Nashville Catholic) Pin Justin Head (Mount Juliet) 165 pounds: Zack Herrmann (Nashville Catholic) Pin Joey Henson (Hendersonville) Sean McKay (Smyrna) Pin Randy Paul (Avery Trace) 185 pounds: Sam Clanton (Nashville Catholic) DQ Tech Violations Taylor Roper (Tullahoma) Chris Johnson (Sycamore) Pin Justin Jirick (Mount Juliet) HWT: Jemal Lunsford (Springfield) Pin Slade Adams (Mount Juliet) Conova Quarles (Warren County) Pin Tyler Eady (Smyrna) OW: Cole Gobbell (141 Nashville Catholic) Best Match: 83 Pounds Trelor (Hen) vs Simpson (NC)

Nashville Catholic should figure into the mix but the top team would have be Tullahoma. I believe they went undefeated this year and that includes a win over Nashville Catholic. Their closest match was Hendersonville which was tied and decided on criterial. Then Nashville Catholic beat Hendersonville. Springfield is always tough and West Wilson has a lot of bodies to choose from. I'll be interested to see what the two Cookeville teams, Algood and Avery Trace, have. cbg, I believe the Team Tennessee guy is their 141, Jaeckel. He lost to Catholic's 141 is a close match. Foutch from Tullahoma at 76 is tough, as are their 83, 91, 99, 106, 113, heck their whole team. I've heard that Algood has a good 125 and Springfield's heavyweight Lunsford is a man along with Smyrna's Eady. The semi's and finals should be interesting. Stop by and check it out and you can still make it home for the Titan's game.

The Middle Tennessee Wrestling Association is having their conference championships tournament this weekend. This is a Middle school tournament and is being held at Pope John Paul II High School. Saturday, weigh-ins at 7, wrestling starts around 9, finals at 5. The schools in the MTWA are: Tullahoma, Hendersonville, Mount Juliet, West Wilson, Algood, Avery Trace, Springfield, Hunter, Nashville Catholic, Lipscomb, Sycamore, Smyrna, and Warren County. It should be a competitive tournament worth a visit on a cold day.

Sunday's high school wrestling results 2003 GMVWA holiday tournament Dayton Daily News Overall Team Results — 1. Miami East 153.5; 2. Father Ryan 141.5; 3. Perrysburg 139.5; 4. Howell 131; 5. Greenville 102; 6. Mohawk 101.5; 7. Cin. Colerain 100.5; 8. Sidney 99; 9. Cin. LaSalle 95; 10. Beavercreek, Vandalia Butler 91; 12. Milton-Union 89.5; 13. Versailles 87.5; 14. Centerville 83; 15. Spg. North 77.5; 16. Clinton-Massie 76; 17. Van Wert 75.5; 18. Northmont 74; 19. Miamisburg, Cin. Princeton 70; 21. Tri-County North 67.5; 22. Cin. Madeira 67; 23. Carroll, Wilmington 62.5; 25. Carlisle 62; 26. Ryle 60; 27. Simon Kenton, Hillsboro 57; 29. Bellbrook 55.5; 30. Western Brown 53; 31. Anderson 52; 32. Chaminade-Julienne 49; 33. Wayne, Xenia 48.5; 35. Troy Christian 46; 36. Tecumseh, Brookville 39; 38. Northridge 18.5.

Are mats tested before...during...after the season for ringworm How would you recommend that testing be carried out?

You are right real, my mistake. Sohr almost had him stuck and had a good tournament. Exciting match.

1. Grassland. Total domination. 7 champions, 1 second, 1 third and 1 fourth. OW was 100 pounder Konz but could have easily been any number of other Grassland wrestlers. 241 total points 2. Ensworth. Good team depth. No champions, but 5 seconds, 3 thirds, and 1 fourth. 177 total points. 3. MBA. 3 champions, a second, third, and fourth. Best match in 88 with Stumb pinning Sohr of Page. 155.5 total points. 4. Harding Academy. 3 champions, 1 third, 1 fourth. Small school suprise. Jumped to 4th with the finals victories. 109 total points. 5. Brentwood Middle. 105.5. 1 second, 2 thirds, 3 fourths 6. FRA. Good showing for another small school. 4 seconds and a third. 98 points total 7. Page. 1 champion. 94. 8. Brentwood Academy. 76. 9. Freedom Middle. 72. 10. Woodland Middle. 66. 11. CPA. 33. 12. BGA. 6. A well run tournament. CPA did a fine job as the host. The officiating was top notch and Ellie Classon (sp?) ran a super scorers table.

"Throw in Metro's five magnet high schools, and Pat has the company of 12 other Metro students named 2004 National Merit Scholarship semifinalists. Now compare Metro's 19,000 high school students with those at Montgomery Bell Academy, a private boys schools with 667 students in grades 7-12. There, 21 young men were named semifinalists in the well-regarded national academic competition — 18% of the senior class, the most of any school in the state." Nice job.

Harding Academy is pleased to host the 2003 Chuck Barbee Army Wrestling Clinic October 3rd and 4th. Held in two separate gymnasiums under one roof, the clinic will be able to segregate the wrestlers based on their skill levels. This will allow the clinicians to tailor their instruction to the participant's wrestling knowledge. Limited to 50 wrestlers each clinic, the small size allows for personalized interaction and assures the wrestlers of quality individual instruction. In addition to Army head coach Chuck Barbee, the staff includes Army assistant Pat Popolizio, All-American Phillip Simpson, Army wrestler Patrick Simpson, former UTC Southern Conference Champion Kevin Baltz, Nashville Catholic coach Jim Simpson, and High School coaches Tommy Badon (Dickson Co.), Brian Dunning (Glencliff), Ralph Gabriel (Overton), Steven Shone (Father Ryan), Frank Simpson (MBA), and Pat Simpson (Father Ryan). Cost is $60.00 The Clinic will run Friday evening 5-8 and Saturday 9-4. Wrestlers should bring lunch but drinks will be provided. For additional information, to have a brochure mailed directly to you, or to request a fee waiver, contact Matt J. Gorham III at [email protected] or by phone at 615-327-4914(o) or 615-352-3571(h).

David Wipperman, FRA, The Citadel. Wrestling.

I have no problem with women in the military. I do have a problem with double standards. It starts with the PT test. They have slower times to meet in the run and less pushups to do. Just recently they raised the sit-ups, but they still have to accomplish less. You want the same military job, you should meet the same standards. And the overall standards should not be lowered to the women's level to accomplish this.

This is all I've found so far sly, 1st - Mitch Mueller (IA) pin Kyle James (TN), 2:39; 3rd - Jordan Leen (TN) dec. Matt Mosser (OH), 9-8

Good job score3. Here's my good mark.