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I believe that 122 is their K-12 enrollment.

The new alignment certainly has added some excitement to the small school division. There's a few teams that are in the mix to win state duals that may not have a single kid reach the finals in individuals.

They seed it.... barely. But not by a system that makes any sense.

Tennessee if the first state I've lived in that does not allow this. If you want to keep the seeding criteria for the state tournament being based on previous years medalists, than this needs to happen! If a stud freshman at 106 can't make the lineup because the team has a senior state champ, let him compete and maybe finish 4th or 5th, that way next year he isn't such a bracket buster.

Here's a harsh reality most of you do not want to hear... TSSAA is more likely add divisions over the next 10 years than they are to combine any.

In Knox County, A high school head coach starts out at (after taxes) a little over 1200 a year as their coaching salary. It grows to about 2K after a few years but maxes out around there, most of which goes into their program. Keep those figures in mind when you downplay 50K from 16 years ago.

To be fair, those 106lbers are smaller guys. Anything deeper than 5ft is often one-in-the-same for them. That must be why the Signal Mountain kid swam just fine in the deep end when he's only used to the shallow end.

This schedule sucks!!! In addition to the lunacy of a 3-day 16 man bracket, the Friday schedule is a joke!!! Who's idea was it to have the semi-finals at noon? How is that a money decision? Every year for the last 6 or 7 years (minus last year) I've left work Friday afternoon and driven to the cow palace, paid money to park and paid money for a ticket to watch the Semi Finals that evening. I stay the evening and go back and watch Saturday. At noon I'm still at work!! You're losing business T$$AA!!! I know I cannot be the only fan of the sport in this boat.

Can I ask what area of the state you're from? I'm starting to notice the feelings of the sectional round varies drastically and the pattern seems to be based on logistics.

I would agree with you if it was a different venue. I feel like the kids wrestling are 50 yards or more away from the crowd the way it is now, so yes all eyes are on them, but I wonder if they can even hear the crowd cheering for them. Plus, I know I am different in most in this preference, but I enjoy seeing the entire weight class featured at once. I enjoyed that part of the tournament last year, so I would do it again. But since we are pack on the dirt floor this year, I'd have the finals on the ends- in the 4 corners of the cow palace where the crowds can be up close to them. Then would have the 3rd and 5th place matches on the other mats in the middle of the floor where the seating is more limited.

Since everyone else is throwing out their ideas, ill throw mine out there too: Since there are 4 divisions (A,AA, D2, and girls), and the cow palace is lock on location: Each division has a 16 man bracket, the majority of the tournament should wrestled on Friday, building to the semi finals happening as a 'main event' type deal for Friday night. Wrestle through the consolations that evening as well, but save all the medal matches to take place during the same time as the finals on Saturday. I think this should be done for several reasons- the kids that placed 6th through 3rd have to stay for podium pictures anyways- so have them wrestle while they're there. If the location changed, I would say keep the finals separate, but 4 mats in the cow palace feels empty, so I say keep 12 mats out there and have each weight class all wrestle at once.

DB also ran into Cleveland, who put 8 or 9 (I can't remember the exact number) in the finals themselves.... I get your argument, but think Greeneville may have more in common with Cleveland in that comparison than D.B. Outside of their big 4, they do have a couple of other guys that could make the finals in A.

I may be reading the bracket wrong, so someone correct me If I am, but I believe Bradley and Summit could wrestle twice Saturday.

Agreed. They are missing what should be their best kid too!

My mistake, someone told he was going to miss before hand so I just assumed. I watched the Facebook stream online but without audio so missed some names, and had never seen those kids before so just assumed Greeneville made some bumps to get their points. And I agree that the 195 match was a big swing, but also their was a match in the lighter weights (somewhere around 120) that could have gone either way. Most of the other matches I think would give you the same results 9 out of 10 times, so don't think Halls would pull off the W without something crazy happening, just was much closer than I anticipated.

I have heard the same from several people. From what I understand they lost 10 seniors last year, have zero seniors this year, and 2 to 4 guys that are in their lineup this year will most likely will lose those spots to 8th graders coming up. I don't believe anyone is on the level of getting any type of national attention, or even any clear front runners to be individual state champions, but just a very solid team from top to bottom in the next two to three years that will be a tough dual for anyone.

Greeneville beat Halls 42-36. I know they were missing Hunter Mason, but that was still much closer than anticipated.

Hows the post season shaping up on all fronts? A, AA, girls and DII.... I feel like coacht has been very dead this season on the wrestling mat. Nothing but coaches polls, ranking updates, and now the Clinton/Halls controversy which was really just one person making a fuss.

I have disagreed with almost every post you've had over the years..... But I agree with this completely.

Halls and Gibbs will most likely both finish top 10, not quite top 5 this year in single A. Granted both programs would say they are down this year, when they are "up" they most certainly both would compete for a state title (Gibbs did win it just 3 or 4 years ago). Also- is anyone going to acknowledge the fact that the winner of this Clinton vs Halls match has to go wrestle Greeneville??? You're arguing for the chance to drive 2 hours during the week to go wrestle one of the best teams in the state this year regardless of classification? Actually, considering this, I think I am now on your side youngbuck. What can I do to help make this Greeneville vs Clinton dual happen?

Districts were scheduled to be at Fulton last week. Knox County schools were closed due illness so they had to find another venue. Coach Sayne was pro-active and tried to find a place for the match. Anderson County High School, which is located between both Clinton and Halls and was hosting a AA district dual that evening, agreed to host the small school duals as well (This happened a couple of years ago when Pigeon Forge hosted both the small school and large school region duals when Knox County was not allowed to host). Coach Sayne relayed this information to both the Fulton and Clinton Coaches. Fulton decided to Forfeit instead, and the Clinton coach claimed that this was too late notice, he thought they would not wrestle and his guys could not make weight in time (aka... he forfeited). This was the rational used for Halls having the 1 seed, and Clinton having the 2 seed. GIven the circumstances, Halls agreed to wrestle Clinton for a true 2nd if they lost to Gibbs (which they did). This was the story told to me from a pretty reliable source when I was in the crow last night. Also, I watched Clinton pack up and leave before the end of the Halls and Gibbs match. Yes the District rescheduling was short notice, but do not claim that the man that took the initiative to find the solution to the problem is the one at fault. And the concept of wrestling at Anderson County is not as outlandish as you claim it to be, given the proximity of the schools and the fact that it was a precedent set just two years ago.

The same situation has played out numerous times and handled varies ways. Usually a coin flip to determine who's number 1 and who's the number 2 'seed', OR the two will wrestle each other to begin the evening (or sometimes both coaches are confident they'll win their first round match and will wrestle in the finals with both the Region and District championships. There are also plenty of examples of teams not wrestling in the Region finals because they wrestled already, Each district and region has the freedom to determine their own criteria. Also, word to the wise, 'Halls Wrestling' - both the youth program and high school team, are ran by some of the most well respected coaches not just in the area, but across the entire state. So kind of peculiar coach to call out specifically for any wrong doing, or say he is trying to 'steal' a district title. If you want a better explanation of what's going on, or the rational behind the decision of the seeding, I am sure Coach Sayne will talk to you personally. Additionally, If both your teams lose to Gibbs, I am sure he will be happy to wrestle off for a 'true second'. However the saying, "be careful what you wish for' may be applicable if that scenario plays out.

true 2nd for a 3 team district? Or true 2nd for region- which assumes both teams lose to Gibbs? (which isn't really a safe assumption). Halls is nowhere near as solid as they were 4 or 5 years ago, but I don't see them losing in that district for awhile. Arguments on who would beat who aside, in years past District titles have been determined on coin flips, past years results, or numerous other criteria when matches get cancelled for school closures.

Maybe you should refer to those forums on clarification on rules of hiring head coaches since several on here seem to be confused.

Never been on either. I do occasionally argue with the Nashville folk on the wrestling forums though.